Psychopathy

[Le killeur]

Hi Sosuave, havent posted in a long time as I've had my sh*t together pretty well and have been in a relationship for the past 1 and half years. However, recently (the past year) I think I've come to a realisation that I am high on psychopathic spectrum / have psychopathic tendencies. Don't get me wrong I'm not crazy or psychotic or want to murder anyone. In fact I'm completely rational and logical and never let emotions muddy the water (unless its something relating to anger, revenge or if I feel I've been slighted)

I only recently realised that I rarely feel any form of emotion and I'm rarely empathetic towards anyone. I have also put many many hours or research into psychopathy and I feel that I fit the profile perfectly. This might horrify some but for me I don't really care I just see it as an interesting and rare quirk of my character/personality.

However, I recently realised that what enlightened me to this psychopathy and what HELPED me to understand and discover myself more than anything and taught me the ways of manipulation, self-respect and almost every aspect of being a budding sociopath / having psychopathic tendencies is contained within sosuave.

I've been implementing everything i have learnt on Sosuave for the past 4 years of my life and TRUST ME IT WORKS. Especially with women. However, I feel now that I openly know the 'tricks of the trade' as it were I no longer need help with women or most things for that matter as it comes naturally. I'm regarded as extremely attractive by the opposite sex, intelligent, witty and I feel I'm successful in almost every aspect of my life. (Extremely narcissistic I know but hey I KNOW its true.) Also those around me know its true and I've only just realised how easy I have breezed through the first part of my life - I'm 21 and I probably attribute it to my psychopathic tendencies. However, what I want to get across is that THIS WEBSITE brought out this pragmatic, ultra-rational, logic monster within me. Im curious does anyone else feel the same? I read a post from 2010 which seemed to read Identical to my current situation/feelings. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=221988

What's funny is, is that my current relationship is 100% BPD and she is constantly playing mind games, belittling me and sh*t testing me. The funny thing is, is that I know her better than she will ever know herself and its funny and at the same time pathetic to see all of her subtle manipulation attempts on me because ultimately I am manipulating her. The problem I have is that the games are fun but after almost 2 years of her sh*t it really is starting to irritate me and I'm on the verge of wanting to completely destroy her emotionally and mentally. The thing is, to everyone I know including her we are madly and deeply in love and she believes that I will one day marry her and that as she once mentioned to me 'I have you wrapped around my little finger'. So for all you guys out there getting fu*ked and destroyed by a BPD I can feel for you as if I wasn't programmed the way I am then I can see how their sh*t might affect a weaker person. But take comfort that you aren't with someone like me who will play the worst mind games with you (as taught by sosuave and perfected by myself)

Anyway I thought I'd share the above just to see you opinions and thoughts. Trust me, what you are being taught at sosuave could be viewed as extremely manipulative but f*ck it women are far worse, stick with this site and learn some self respect and some tools to help you become more successful because trust me it all works.

Also I'd be happy to answer any questions/curiosities any of you may have. (I have never told anyone about the above, I thought the site where it all began deserved my first exposure)

 

[scsniper]

With all due respect to you Le Killeur,why would a guy with ASPD come to a website to learn to me more of a sociapath.Their not teaching anything that comes close to that on here.Not only that if your ASPD,someone slighting you isnt gonna get your emotions going,you enjoy conflict.
Your not gonna put up with any bull**** off a borderline either.ASPD love borderlines,they are a perfect foil for each other?So what gives?

 

[Le killeur]

This website brought out the aspd within me, and trust me if you compare most of the 'techniques' on this website such as NC'ing women etc. This IS a form of manipulation whether you like it or not. You are literally attempting to instill a mindset of indifference in which YOU are the prize and which your needs are all that matter and to take no sh*t from anyone. You essentially turn all interactions into a game in which you employ the things you have learnt in order to get what you want, essentially life becomes one big game. What do you think life is for a psychopath? Now don't get me wrong I think men need more self-respect and I think this website simply even's the odd's so to speak. However, if you begin to employ all of these techniques and adapt your attitude to the 'Don Juan' attitude then you are adopting more psychopathic tendencies (Many believe Don Juan himself fits the psychopathic profile) Don't kid yourself, to many psychologists and to most women this website would be horrific to read due to all of the the things it teaches men.

Thats probably why I've been with her for nearly 2 years, I don't take bullsh*t but perhaps I like the conflict and mind games but trust me after a while they get boring and just frustrating.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I know what you mean. A little while ago I was doing some of my own research on psychopathy/sociopathy. There is a difference though. One that I don't care to really explain right now unless someone wants me to, but there is. I used to be very low functioning sociopath and in order to get what I want, I would make people like me. How? You be nice to them. They are reluctant and past a certain age, people will start to see through that and don't like it. Plus, I'm sick of being nice to them too. That is manipulative. Low-functioning people are more one-on-one manipulation.

The high functioning (which is harder to detect, and which I am more like right now) are more charismatic, more charming. They move the masses. Kind of like politicians nowadays. They appeal to the general public, and then go after their own personal needs. lol.

As well as the empathy part, well it's not that I don't feel. But rather that I felt a little too much, especially when I was younger (it was super emotional heartbreak, but from my parents rather than other women. And it was at the age of infancy. I have clear memories of even when I was 6 months old, that is how scarring it was for me. And it wasn't even that the events were terrible, it was the way my brain worked. I have a long theory on that actually). I have learned to shut off empathy towards others. I don't know how I do it, but I do. I could kill people if I wanted to and not feel a thing. But I don't react on my impulses due to all the trouble it would bring. Plus, there are some other things that come into play too (another one of my thoughts/theories that will take too long to explain). But when someone tries to screw me over, I will do it to them in double. And I know how to not get caught. PLUS, when I do, I know how to deal with the authorities or those above me (in terms of status, you don't really think that they are better than the king, right? lol) to remove the consequences or lessen them when i know there is evidence.

Anyway, I'm still trying to learn more and more of these techniques. But I can't act off of them efficiently enough because one thing I realized is that first impressions count a lot, and at my social setting, I fvcked up big (But now, whenever I am placed in other social settings, I am the king of the place. Like the head honcho alpha dog type dude. And almost immediately too). Plus, I'm learning more of the Laws of Attraction/Creative Visualization/Manifestation/Black Magic/Magic/Evil Eye/Whatever the fvck you wanna call it. It does work, my sister is a fvcking master of it, she has like THE greatest luck ever because of that. I have used it, just not on the large scale for myself. That can be one of the most evil tools ever to get what you want. And it is amazing.

Oh yeah, and this site truly does bring out the inner sociopath in all of us. I noticed that too. But the thing is, can it really be frowned upon, when the same is done to us? No, I am a strong believer in an eye for an eye, so it is fair. When I said I do double to what others have done to me, it is still fair and is still equal in a sense because the way that I look at it: You have wronged me so I will wrong you now. Simple.

Thank you SoSuave,

The king

Edit: So I forgot to ask you Le Killeur, what do you think is the greatest technique to use against people? And what was your biggest accomplishment due to that, and what was your greatest accomplishment in general in your life? (and how did you go about to achieve it?)

 

[Le killeur]

I'm glad someone agree's its so obvious, but like you say this website will change your life for the better and give you a tool set you can use to successfully manoeuvre through life. What appears so simple such as going ghost and NC can have a large impact on a woman, Also reference to making the 'hamster wheel' spin in her head is great and when I'm intentionally playing mind games and f*cking around with someone I love to think of that analogy.

Yes, all you have to do is look at the psychopath 'survival' and 'recovery' websites for 10 minutes and its full of the other end of the stick of the Don Juan attitude/lifestyle. All of the apparent 'abuse' is viewed as techniques of the Don Juan. But like you I agree it's a good thing, I love seeing girls getting f*cked over simply because they are usually the one's f*cking others over.

To be honest I'm unsure of any single technique as I find it comes so natural to me its hard to pinpoint certain techniques anymore. (I also realise I've been unconsciously or without my realisation/knowledge been manipulating people for a long time before this website) But I feel the greatest one thing you can have is indifference. For example if my ltr relationship were to break up with tomorrow I really wouldn't care. If she eventually does break up with me it's because I decided we are going to break up and it works and looks better for me if she ends it.

I don't have any greatest single achievement but most people would regard my life as interesting, exciting, enviable and successful. I travel alot, have a large friendship group, have had many experiences people could only dream of, you get the jist. The funny thing is though is that I rarely try my hardest at anything and get bored too easily and move on.

If you met me you would absolutely love me. I am intelligent, witty and a great conversationalist. I have such a broad array of knowledge that I will find out what you like and I'll speak to you about your interests and I'll make you feel great and like your the most important person in the world. I'm not evil and if your nice to me I'll be nice to you unless it suits me to do otherwise. The reality is though that I don't care for many people and if I were to never see most of the people in my life again I just simply wouldn't care. Oh this may sound awful but I get a great kick out of manipulating people and playing games with them. The difference is, is that I only do this to people who thoroughly deserve it.

Im curious what is this black magic, evil eye etc. you allude too? And what are your favourite techniques?

 

[scsniper]

I do have an interest in your postion on these things,but we do seem to differ on the methods,and the motivations,Le Killeur.

I like you have a BPD girlfriend,and she is my little devilish walk on the wild side.

Weve been together for 4 years,minus time off for good behaviour.
(without n/c and abandonment,there is no way,we would have lasted this long.The longer im away the more she cycles back to a time when "true love reigned supreme".You know what I mean?)

Theres no way we could have lasted this long,if I hadnt taken,extreme measures to facilitate it.Their natural inclination is to devalue and discard,that which is familiar to them,that which LOVES them.You must have noticed that?

Especially at the end of the honeymoon period.Im just curious how it pans out for someone who is ASPD,I had to learn on the job,come up with a strategy.
It took some work to get my head around it.

I dont mind admitting I took some serious bruises in the early days of her "pupation".

I learnt by trial and error,how to keep the situation,from being destructive to me.

I couldnt have learnt any of that from this website,or any other website ive come across.

It is a new game,with some crazy rules.But now I love it,shes a little devil,but I am her "soulmate"shes crazy about me still now.

I cant maintain that by using her for my own benefit.I love her from a maintained distance.

When I see her heart is full of love,in I swoop and attention she gets(theyre pretty selfish creatures,as you well know).

If im suitably indifferent,towards her,it gets her"bud fluttering"or as you guys call it
"gina tingling".

So that works for me,if nature takes its course from there and we consummate our love,I will give her some" loving attention".

I will gladly help her with anything she needs assistance with.

She gets her little love story,but I have to watch very carefully,for signs,of trouble.
One false move and I would get devalued,and then its a proper headache,to put right again.

When I need to I disappear off the grid,to let her "loveometer"build right up,thats what I have to do.

If I stay in the pocket with her,I have to be prepared to act,whenever necessary,to maintain respect,its tiring,like dealing with an unruly child sometimes.You ever have any of that business?

For me I'm doing what I need to do,she gets a love story,that she cant destroy.Win,win.

It suits me to have a relationship that I dont have to be embroiled in every day of the week.I dont feel guilty about this,its manipulation,but a necessary evil.

If you want to see just how committed women are to men(especially many of those that have got married).Read"Rotating Polyandry And Its Enforcers"on counter-currents .com.That sh*t is brutal.

Or "I hate my wife"on experienceproject.com.

I reckon we should focus on encouraging women to be better human beings,then we can conduct our business,as we do as men.In a straightforward honest manner,with no games.

I am fascinated though to hear an ASPD perspective,on keeping a borderline sweet in a relationship.Does it come more naturally,cause of the more ruthless nature?

How do you manage to stay in the pocket without getting devalued?
So any pearls of wisdom,you have in this department,I'd love to hear about.You can never come armed with too much information.

 

[Receptacle Filler]

My BPD

Ah, the joys of the bpd female. Abandonment and attention, rinse and repeat. It's the only way of maintaing control over the BPD, keeping your little slvt in her continuous "honeymoon" stage. You can't give her security or contentment b/c then she doesn't respect you. by playing on her obvious fears and insecurity you keep that little cookie dangling....:box:

 

[sylvester the cat]

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[scsniper]

There you go,elegantly summed up by Receptacle Filler,in two lines.
A man who has clearly experienced such things.
Cant speak for yours my friend,but mine,is no slut.
No need to ruin a solid observation,with clearly unnaceptable terminology for someone elses partner.
So id prefer it if you didnt refer to her as a slut,if its all the same to you.
Did I imply that your mother is a slut?
No.
So save your little red boxing tomatoe,for someone that gives a ****.
alrite pal
xx

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

So it isn't really 'black magic' per se, but some consider it to be (real black magic is a world you don't want to get into). The laws of attraction is basically the idea that the mindset that you have and whatever your thoughts are bring about certain events, things, people, etc. An example would be like 'Why do good/positive things always happen to good/positive people?' or vice versa. This is where the 'evil eye' comes in. If you haven't ever heard of the evil eye, its the idea that whenever someone wants ill for someone else (usually because of jealousy), something bad will happen to the person they are jealous to. That can be explained by creative visualization (the two are linked). Creative visualization is when you imagine something (an event or situation or even an actual thing or person) and you believe that whatever is happening will come true. And when doing so, it actually will come true. Whatever you believe will happen, will happen. But you need to believe that it will. The idea sounds so stupid and illogical right now, i know. But it does work. The reason why it is unable to be explained is the same reason why the universe works the way it does when speaking of quantum physics. The only science I can give you behind how this can possible work is to remember that everything is essentially energy, just all in different forms. Therefore, your thoughts could be considered as energy. Now energy is never really lost or created (save for a few exceptions that can only be explained by quantum physics, which in itself is unexplainable) so perhaps your thoughts resonate throughout the universe affecting everything around it. Now let's say you want something and think about it. The energy in your thoughts ripple throughout the universe and because whatever it is that you want is apart of your thoughts, that specific thing will be affected by it.

We even have some of this proof that it works her in the community: assume value. When you assume value, you basically have the mindset that you are the 'prize' so to speak. Now what is truly remarkable is that when we think of ourselves in that way, the girl starts the think of you in that way too! That is another example. It is the mindset that so many of the great posters (sammo, pook, etc.) and when you think the girl likes you, she always does too! But you need to believe it though.

One of the problems for people like you and me is that we are too logical/rational and don't really feel too much. It is a lot harder to use without emotions. My sister can control what she feels when she is by herself and uses CV to her advantage, in fact she is the one who brought it up and taught me it. However, i know that if I can master the art of manifestation (CV), then I will be able to do anything that I want because I won't exactly feel that it will happen or come to me (whatever it is). Instead, I will know that it will come to me because it will only make logical and rational sense to.

It is hard to explain so I'm sorry if you still don't understand it.

As of my favorite technique, it is the feeling of confidence in everything that I do. This causes indifference in itself. It also causes the right mindset that makes me be able to do anything that I want to do. It gives me a sense that I am the greatest. Hence my signature.

 

[Le killeur]

scsniper, i understand what you mean, the games are constant and mine is one of the most manipulative b*tches i've ever met. The irony is, is that she prides herself to all of her friends and to me as someone who is very straight and doesn't play games. The Smug b*tch's idea of love revolves around games! The irony is that she has got with someone far more manipulative than her. Psychopaths are regarded as natural psychologists and i can attest to that. I have an extreme talent for reading people and when she plays subtle mind games or is trying to make me insecure i can read it like a book. She attempts to toy with my emotions and insecurities but the problem is, I don't have any.

I understand completely, these women need to be treated badly once in a while and NC drives them INSANE. However, mine is openly jealous and its funny but whenever she has the opportunity she will search every aspect of my phone. I take great pleasure in pointing this out to her when she thinks she has been discreet and watch her squirm. The problem is, is that is so so tiring to constantly be doing this and im at the stage now where I think I will end the relationship. The problem is that she knows far too much about me and we are too invested into one another's friendship groups so this has the potential to be extremely messy and I know if i don't play it right she will be extremely volatile.

However, i think my time with her is up. When about 50% of my thoughts towards her relate to her destruction and whenever im with her i just have a monologue in my head about what a b*tch she is then i think its time to leave. Anyone else want to destroy their bpd?
I'm also extremely excited to go and play the field, i get a LOT of attention of females and I mean ALOT, im considered extremely attractive, i'm muscular etc. I can't wait to test my seduction skills on the women now that i've reached self-awareness.

Also Imthedouble I think we have an inherent advantage over others (well higher-functioning) people do. I know most people better than they know themselves.

 

[sylvester the cat]

I think we have an inherent advantage over others (well higher-functioning) people do. I know most people better than they know themselves.

and this right here is the psychopath's achilles heel. his ego and delusions of grandeur. my brother said the same thing. it was his downfall. there is always another smarter than you. and it's usually the one who keeps his big mouth shut.

 

[Le killeur]

Sylvester im posting on an anonymous forum you dumba*s. You really think i go around saying all of this stuff to people i know? You're a fool or you have no conception of psychopathy, all of the great people throughout history had a huge ego and illusions of grandeur, much rather that than some 'AFC' passive phag.

Of course there are millions upon millions of people smarter than me but there are also millions of people far more stupid than me. I am the one who keeps his mouth shut but his eyes wide open, and it's people like you that have NO idea that goes on behind the eyes of people like me.

 

[sylvester the cat]

Sylvester im posting on an anonymous forum you dumba*s. You really think i go around saying all of this stuff to people i know? You're a fool or you have no conception of psychopathy, all of the great people throughout history had a huge ego and illusions of grandeur, much rather that than some 'AFC' passive phag.

Of course there are millions upon millions of people smarter than me but there are also millions of people far more stupid than me. I am the one who keeps his mouth shut but his eyes wide open, and it's people like you that have NO idea that goes on behind the eyes of people like me.

didn't take much to get your hamster in a spin did it dr lecter?

whatever you are, control of your emotions is clearly not your forte.

 

[dasein]

1. I don't think a true psychopath/sociopath would be seeking feedback on this forum. Every person has tendencies towards various PDs, totally natural and normal.

2. We live in a touchy feely consumerist gynoculture where young men are overconditioned to emotive response. For example, neither of my grandfathers were PDed, but if you asked them how they "feel" about something, they would say, "tired, hungry, happy, hell yeah! or pissed off" and that would be about it. Hell my grandmothers weren't a whole lot different. It's only been the last few decades where people bandy about shrink terms constantly in hyperfeminine ways. Don't let them convince you that "touchy feely" is the natural way for men to be and if you aren't, something is wrong with you. Don't let them convince you to constantly ruminate on your psyche like women do in a self-absorbed way. Google "rumination happiness" to learn why that's bad.

3. Was reading some Tacitus, Germania last night, and I highly recommend that for perspective in modern times. It was common for the Germanic tribes to have maturity rituals. Men of one tribe couldn't ever cut their hair or beard until they killed an enemy in combat, growing older with long hair was shame. Another tribe put iron rings on their young warriors that didn't come off until they got a kill, was shameful to wear the ring past a certain age. These people fought NAKED, their shield was their most prized possession, and to lose it in battle was horror. To live while a commander died was the ultimate shame. These people whupped Roman ass more than any other people the Romans subjugated, and the Romans respected them as able foes. Point is that somewhere between Spartanism and what we have today is a healthy balance for the male psyche, and we are well away from it in consumer-gynoculture.

4. The point of places like this is not to turn people into psychopaths or sociopaths, and that is NOT the focus of the techniques. The techniques are time-tested ways to keep one's sanity while dealing with women, more logistical than substantive. Far too many young men are given terrible, counterproductive advice about how to attract and deal with women, told to pay compliments, be a gentleman, be "nice." Men are told to cater to every whim of a woman, "happy wife happy life" and other such nonsense. Places like this are a foil to that kind of erroneous approach to being a sexual man. It's one thing to delight in getting a woman's hamster wheel spinning on a forum, another to set out to be cruel in that IRL. Most women are NEVER HAPPY when they are comfortable, they require a sense of ambiguity and uncertainty to come close to sexual contentment. JUST LOOK AT THE TV AND MOVIES THEY WATCH TO KNOW THIS. Don't mistake them for men, giving them that uncertainty and need to strive is a gift, not a penalty.

 

[Le killeur]

Sylvester, in what way did I show any emotion? If your not going to contribute to the post just leave.

Dasein, I've not told anyone about this, and this is my first time posting anything related to this. Trust me I don't really seek any feedback, I just thought it would be appropriate to post on sosuave as this began my process of enlightenment. Just thought i'd enlighten you all that what you teach is what the psychopath does naturally, I never mentioned it as aimed to become a psychopath. I thoroughly advise you go through psychopath survival / abuse recovery website (Trust me there are ALOT) and all of the 'evil' 'abusive' and means of 'emotional abuse/manipulation' are techniques taught on this website. IT IS FACT. Nothing is wrong with this, its neither good nor bad, it just is. It also happens to WORK and I only wish more men used this website to crush the manipulative women in their life.

Discovering and exploring psychopathy is fascinating to me, it feels like a form of self-realisation and mastery. I also count psychology as amongst one of my favourite hobbies, it can be extremely satisfying. I'm just curious what this website feels about it.

 

[Dgwizdal]

I had a long drawn out explanation to add on how to maintain a relationship with a BPD as I have been with with one on and off or on the side for 4 years. However, the best way I can put it is to very rarely give her any type of validation, verbal commitment, and turn the dread game up five notches. Remain emotionally detached. She will chase you forever until you are fed up with their irresponsibility and overall sh!tty behavior. It's been a fun ride with crazy/hot chicks but I'm 28 and am ready for the cute/stable chick.

Like the others here, I didn't fully realize that i was a partial Narcissist/Psychopath until the truths behind what you find in this site became very apparent and the results undeniable. I always knew that I was different in the sense that I have always been able to calculate, manipulate, and engineer my desired outcomes of social interactions however the red pill busted that door right open. Game to me is not just about getting women - game can be applied and useful in every aspect of life. I DO feel empathy at times but more or less from outside forces in rather than realizing how my actions/words may affect others.

It's to the point now to where "game" is a completely natural thing for me and I really don't have a problem with it. Sometimes i'll be put in a bind and flawlessly game my way out of and then cringe at what any blue piller or myself would have said back in that day. It has helped me 10x more than it has hurt me. I do believe I am making progress towards opening up a bit more and having genuine healthy balanced relationships. However I know that it is impossible to obtain with a BPD. The rules are different. Ingraining them into my personality is ultimately stunting my goal of properly peppering my alpha steaks with sprinkles of beta to keep the good girls around. The hard core red pill sh*t is what attracted but ultimately drove my last sweet wholesome girl away. It is also what keeps the hot nutjobs coming back harder for more time and time again. A bit of a paradox.

On a side note: My last wholesome girlfriend hasn't been able to find the "nice guy" she wanted since me in almost 2 years... Guess the emotional rollercoaster was kind of fun and left an impact after all

 

[scsniper]

As amusing as it is to engage you Le Killeur,you did alot of talking about yourself,but you didnt bother answering my questions did you?

Its been fascinating to hear you and the other serial killer stroke each other off about evil eyes and blackmagic.

But I was hoping you might have a bit more substance to your"psychopathy" story.

So I wont bother getting into psychology with you,which incidentally im very interested in.

You shouldnt concern yourself over silly labels,they only lead you into a blind alley.
For a" psychopath "on a voyage of discovery,that cant be helpful,when your trying to have mastery over your environment.

Were all humans trying to traverse our way through lifes little trials and tribulations right?So to you my friend I wish good luck and Godspeed.

ps some of that malarky in Stingers post,had me falling off my chair."like my grandfather he was a psychopath too"ha ha ha ha ha ha

Your a funny guy,serial killers and tomatoes,cant beat them.

 

[Le killeur]

Scsniper, I think what's even funnier is your lack of any sort of grammar or cohesion of writing. I'm guessing your either a child or just extremely uneducated but probably just uneducated. I answered your vauge and hard to read/interpret questions if you read my responses. Perhaps if you make your writing clear and not like a 80 year old woman technophobe has wrote it, then I could answer your questions better. Your also obviously not into your psychology or you think you are but you clearly aren't otherwise you'd understand why self-mastery/realisation is important for the success of a psychopath.

I do hate to call such things into question as it is unnecessary but if you attempt to humour me, ill humour you.
Good luck and Godspeed scsniper

 

[sylvester the cat]

Sylvester, in what way did I show any emotion? .

you dumba*s.
You're a fool
'AFC' passive phag.
.

sounds emotional to me. i thought psychopaths were supposed to be devoid of emotion.