Protein alternative/ need help

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...So after investing in some whey protein, and getting over my initial amazement that this **** actually works, (noticed muscle gains on day three) i find out from the doc that i have a slight kidney funtion problem (nothing serious) and how it would be best to adopt a low protein diet, as kidneys play a vital role in protein filltering. The more protein, the higher the strain on your kidneys. This is bad luck, as i am skinny have a fast metabolism, and need this shít.

So my question is...is there a protein alternative out there like straight amino acids or something? or is pure protein the only muscle building substance?

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If you want to grow, you have to consume lots of protein. Sorry, them's the breaks.

That said, don't let your doc's advice get you down. He's probably recommending, as most doctors do, the most conservative course of action for your health. Unless you have a serious deficiency in kidney function, you should be alright consuming the protein needed to grow. There's things you can do to minimize the stress you place on them. Drink lots and lots of water, and make sure you consume plenty of the electrolytes that your kidneys need. There's also supplements you can take to regulate/improve kidney function. If you want to learn more, do some research on your condition and on kidney function, there's plenty of solid advice out there.
 

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It's meat protein that is the problem. However, whey is a dairy product, and in all likelihood would cause the same problems as a meat protein. Eat some beans.

http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/62/71623.htm

High-Protein Diets Can Hurt Kidneys

Damage Stems From Proteins Found in Meat

By Sid Kirchheimer
March 17, 2003

High-protein diets like that of the popular Atkins diet may accelerate the loss of kidney function in people with early problems. However, these controversial diets do not seem to affect people with normal kidneys, suggests new research.

The problem is, as many as 20 million Americans are at risk for reduced kidney function but don't know it. Therefore, people on high-protein diets may be unknowingly damaging their kidneys.

"There are no symptoms attributable to this early kidney disease, but it's very prevalent," says Eric Knight, MD, MPH, lead researcher of the study and a doctor at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston. Those at highest risk are people with high blood pressure, diabetes, or are older than age 65, he says.

Even in his study, about one in four of the 1,624 women studied had mildly reduced kidney function that produced no obvious symptoms.

Knight's findings on high-protein diets are published in the March 18 edition of Annals of Internal Medicine. It's the latest chapter in the ongoing Nurses Health Study, which has already documented that frequent meat consumption may increase risk of colon cancer.

The women studied were questioned about their consumption of meat and other foods, and other health risks were also evaluated. They were tracked for 11 years, and researchers found that those with mild kidney problems who ate a high-protein diet --- especially protein from meat -- had a faster loss in function. No such association was noted among women with these kidney problems who got most of their protein from dairy foods. However, high meat consumption didn't seem to exacerbate problems in those with healthy kidneys.

"We saw a significantly measurable association in those consuming about 1.3 grams of animal protein for each kilo of body weight," Knight tells WebMD. "That level is not as high as the protein you get from animal sources in the Atkins diet. So clearly a person who is undertaking a high-protein diet such as Atkins should have a kidney function test and carefully be monitored while following this diet."
 

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af is a dialysis nurse. I would not wish the horror of dialysis on anyone. Imagine spending 3-4 hours 3-4 times per week hooked up to a giant machine that sucks out your blood, filters it, and pumps it back in you. Miss one appointment, and you die within two days. That's life without kidneys.
 

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Thanks for the replies. I once heard that taking striaght amino acids could be a safer alternative, without putting pressure on kidneys that protein filltering does.

Anyone know anything about this? Thanks
 

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had to bump this as it's important.

Any fresh ideas?
 

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Cash said:
had to bump this as it's important.

Any fresh ideas?
Acceptance? Or at least, the consideration thereof...
 
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