Protect your neck with these girls...

[squirrels]

I feel so stupid right now...

I called up the stripper I've been seeing on and off. We were supposed to go out tonight and get dinner, then watch a couple of DVDs.

She calls me up like an hour and a half before the date and says, "I wanna go out tonight, can we go to xxxx?" (a local bar where it's ladies' night)...so I'm thinking, if I say "no", it's obvious I just want the sex, so she's gonna drop me, so I figure, "what's it going to hurt?"

MISTAKE #1: Letting her change the plans. I knew right away that it was going to get out of my control, that I should've either insisted on the original plan or told her, "Go out tonight and we'll get together another night", but I let it ride...

So I meet her and we go to dinner. I pay, being the gentleman. We head over to the bar and start getting some drinks, then right away she's like, "You want to do a shot?" I figured, why not? The first date, we were doing shots all night and ended up making out at her apartment

MISTAKE #2: Buying shots for her...she could drink for free all ****ing night, it was ladies' night. I should've never agreed to that, but I let it ride, figuring nookie was guaranteed at the end of the night...

Then her friend shows up. I figure, OK, no biggie. She's here with me. But then her and her friend go into "girl mode". And before you know it, they're dancing and giggling at guys and I'm being ignored. The worst thing is that I bought them shots, and there were 2 or 3 HOT girls in there giving me eyes, but I said to myself, "I came with this girl, I'm gonna stick with her." But then she says to me, "I'll just go home with my friend, so you can get out of here...I know you didn't want to stay..."....B*TCH!! How DARE she disrespect me like this! I took her out, she's MY date. How DARE she??

Eventually, after dropping about $100 on shots and food and experiencing the flake of the century, I called it quits. I told them, "You girls have fun, I'm out." and left.

Let this serve as a reminder to all of you...NO girl is worthy of your trust. Be VERY careful when you break these rules...even if it seems ignorant for you to stick to your guns, STICK TO THEM. Women will use you whenever possible and they can't be trusted.

All you have in this world are your balls and your word. Don't brek either one for anybody.

If for one second you have any doubt about a situation, BAIL. Do not accept disrespect from a woman, do NOT let them control the situation, and if they don't want to go with your plan, CUT THEM LOOSE, there are women there that WILL. I'm not saying any minor transgression should be grounds for dismissal, but do NOT tolerate a woman trying to push you into something you're not down for and do NOT tolerate flakiness and disrespect...they're sure signs that you've found yourself a loser and if you mess with her, you're going to take a loss.

 

[amokk23]

wtf is this a repost? havent you posted the exact same story before?

 

[zimzum]

you are an idiot... spending 100$ on the first date?!!!... you are saying..."I cant gain your love with my charm, so I'll try to get it with my money"...BAD IDEA..!!!!

If she called her friend it's not your fault... She didnt want anything to happen from the beggining...She was a *****...You didnt lose a battle, it was allready lost... but never spend 100$ on a date.. HUGE MISTAKE...

 

[iqqi]

thats what you get for thinking you were paying for sex. you are no better than a prostitute shopper.

next time you want to buy a girl a drink or spend $ on her, do it the classy way or don't do it at all.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

First of all she's a stripper!! I know there are a lot of guys who say there are some decent strippers out there. Meaning they've got a good head on their shoulders, but I'll never believe that. A stripper is the biggest attention ***** in the world!!! At least you realize your mistakes. I would've told her that I wanted to stay in, if she still said she wanted to go out then its clear she's playing games or isn't that interested.

Remember the only expectation you should EVER have, is to have fun!!! If you go into a night expecting pu$$y, you probably won't get shyt!!

If she calls you I'd call her out on her disrespect. If she makes an effort then give her a chance, if she acts lame, NEXT!!!


PIMP

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Originally posted by squirrels

If for one second you have any doubt about a situation, BAIL. Do not accept disrespect from a woman, do NOT let them control the situation, and if they don't want to go with your plan, CUT THEM LOOSE, there are women there that WILL. I'm not saying any minor transgression should be grounds for dismissal, but do NOT tolerate a woman trying to push you into something you're not down for and do NOT tolerate flakiness and disrespect...they're sure signs that you've found yourself a loser and if you mess with her, you're going to take a loss.

Good advice.
Best thing i've read on here in a few days.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Why are you being a 'gentle man' with a hor!!!!

She told you to go home alone because she wanted to go home with another dude!!

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by zimzum
you are an idiot... spending 100$ on the first date?!!!... you are saying..."I cant gain your love with my charm, so I'll try to get it with my money"...BAD IDEA..!!!!

If she called her friend it's not your fault... She didnt want anything to happen from the beggining...She was a *****...You didnt lose a battle, it was allready lost... but never spend 100$ on a date.. HUGE MISTAKE...

Not a first date, buddy. And I've already f'ed her once.

Originally posted by iqqi
thats what you get for thinking you were paying for sex. you are no better than a prostitute shopper.

next time you want to buy a girl a drink or spend $ on her, do it the classy way or don't do it at all.

It wasn't really like that. I guess it was underneath it all, but it wasn't like I was thinking, "Ooh I buy this drink and I get laid." I wasn't even dead-set on getting laid that night...the idea, though, was that she came with me, we were on a date, and she was going home with me, sex or no. Yeah, I'm always looking forward to sex, but it didn't HAVE to happen that way.

The conversation on the first two dates was at least interesting...by tonight it's like she ran out of things to say. And as soon as we hit the bar, I could see her entire attitude start to change...she went into "party girl" mode and there was no way I was holding on to her. Of course, she didn't drift off with her friend just yet...they had to work me for some drinks first.

Again, completely my fault.

Originally posted by Pimp-sicle
First of all she's a stripper!! I know there are a lot of guys who say there are some decent strippers out there. Meaning they've got a good head on their shoulders, but I'll never believe that. A stripper is the biggest attention ***** in the world!!! At least you realize your mistakes. I would've told her that I wanted to stay in, if she still said she wanted to go out then its clear she's playing games or isn't that interested.

Remember the only expectation you should EVER have, is to have fun!!! If you go into a night expecting pu$$y, you probably won't get shyt!!

If she calls you I'd call her out on her disrespect. If she makes an effort then give her a chance, if she acts lame, NEXT!!!

I hear what you're saying about strippers, but she actually had me sold on the idea that there was something different about her. Yet at the back of my mind there was something saying, "Just cut her loose, no good can come of this." I just didn't listen. And then when she pulled that crap, the same voice said, "No, don't do it. Either stick her with the original plans or let her go out with her friends and stay home." Again, I didn't listen.

In all truth, I was a little drunk when I typed the initial post. I WAS expecting to have a good time and actually, I WAS having a good time just drinking and laughing and even talking to her and her friend. I thought the interest was solid...so when other guys started talking to her, I just kind of sat back and let her go, figuring she'd eventually blow them off and come back to "her man". The first time she did, the second time she did, but then she didn't...as I said, she went into "club-girl" mode with her friend being there and they just did their thing. I guess it was good to see how easily she could flake out before something worse came of it.

It's a shame, too, because like I said I made eye contact with this one hot blonde chick and didn't even holler at her out of respect for the girl I was out with.

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Why are you being a 'gentle man' with a hor!!!!

She told you to go home alone because she wanted to go home with another dude!!

I still doubt that a little, but it wouldn't surprise me. Your point is well-taken. On the first date (you might remember I posted about that), she made a big deal about me playing the "traditional male" role (picking up the check, holding doors, etc), so I figured I'd see if she would play the "traditional female" role (cook for me, keep me happy in the bedroom, etc) and it looked like she wanted to do that until tonight. But she tipped her hand...she wants her cake and wants to eat it too. It could've also been the fact that my sex performance wasn't exactly stellar (way too much foreplay/got too excited) that last date, but the fact that she seemed cool with me afterward led me to believe that she would make a good "practice partner."

As the Emperor said in Return of the Jedi, "Young fool. Only now, at the end, do you understand. You have paid the price for your lack of vision."

I got hosed. Plain and simple. And I walked into it. I'm not posting this for advice and I'm sure as hell not trying to brag. I'm just posting it as an example of what happens when you ignore your gut feeling and don't stick to your guns.

Pricey lesson, but it could've been worse. A LOT worse.

The bottom line is that I got ****y, I thought that I was SO good I could get by without ANY of the "Don Juan skillset", ignore the red flags and my gut instinct, and handle anything that came up. I got smacked down.

 

[Tkman]

Originally posted by squirrels
Eventually, after dropping about $100

MAMAMIA !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[squirrels]

Re: Re: Protect your neck with these girls...

Originally posted by Tkman
MAMAMIA !!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed. I've been struggling with the whole "who should pay" dilemma for some time. I think last night brought me to a stunning conclusion...that you should NOT buy girls drinks, even once you know them well. It adds up too fast. Maybe one, on a DATE (never upon just meeting in a club or such), but after that, she's on her own.

As soon as we hit the bar she went into club-mode. I was too blind to see it, and all of a sudden what would've been "me taking her out" turned into "some guy buying drinks for her at the bar." That's what pisses me off. I wouldn't have even minded dropping money on drinks if she had stuck in "date mode", cuz then we're already together and it's not like I'm trying to buy or prove anything by getting drinks. We're all drinking together.

It's amazing how fast I went from being "the man she's out with" to "a guy at the bar." This **** is so egregious it makes my stomach turn just thinking about it. I'm new to the dating scene and haven't witnessed such an absolute flake before. I should've told her off, but it wouldn't accomplish anything but making me look like an ass. So I just cut my losses and checked out.

I shouldn't have agreed to go there, I shouldn't have let her meet her friend, and I should've called her out on her sh!t from the get-go. In fact, I shouldn't have even called her...I feel like a weight has been lifted now that I've got her out of my system.

But I felt like she was "easy pu$$y" and thought I would just be able to hang with her, we'd get a few drinks, laugh a while, and then get freaky like before. She played me good.

Oh well...my loss is my lesson. Her life is her loss. There are some things you just don't learn (like how sinister and selfish women can be) until you see it firsthand.

 

[Big Pappy]

So I'm at my pub, and this young fella comes up to me and says, "Hey, Big Pappy. My girl just dumped me; I need a shot of Ouzo."

After I pour the shot, he asks me how is it that he never hears any stories from me about how stupid and psycho girls are.

So, I share this little tidbit of perspective with him.

When a puppy craps on the carpet, is it your fault? No. It's just a puppy. When a dog craps on the carpet is it your fault. Yes. As owner/master it is your job to recognize the times and conditions under which your dog needs to go outside.

Obviously, some dogs are different that others. Some share characteristics, others are an exception to the rules.

My point is this: Consider your selection criteria. Remember, selection is a two-way process. Do you find yourself choosing a girl rather than letting her choose you first?

Let her choose you. Women consider their choices more carefully than men, as wasted time is more critical to them. Instinctively, they only have so many child bearing years.

Squirrels,
My best advice would be for you to put this incident behind you. Why would a young man who is striving to make his world better want to be whispered about as the guy who dates a stripper? Yes, some strippers are hardworking single moms or trying to work through school, etc.

But, all other things the same, would you rather introduce her as banker or a lawyer or a graduate student or an exotic dancer? (ought to be "erotic" dancer)

no, it's not all about social class, but it is about perception. Will your next woman fell comfortable shagging with you, knowing that a stripper was there first? Likely, a woman of any class will be wary of diseases and such. No reflection on you, but your choices.

As you stated, you see your mistakes and were kind enough to share them with the forum for our benefit. Stop beating yourself up and find another few ladies who are a bit more worthy of your time and affection. They are out there.

 

[myfriendblu]

Originally posted by iqqi
thats what you get for thinking you were paying for sex. you are no better than a prostitute shopper.

next time you want to buy a girl a drink or spend $ on her, do it the classy way or don't do it at all.

LOL, in case you have missed it (your a girl, so your obviously clueless) all aspects of dating and taking girls out are forms of prostitution, in one way or the other. Any way you slice it, your trying to spend as little as money as possible to have sex with your date. That is the very objective behind every guy ever asking out any girl.

Some people understand reality (us DJ's) and most poeple (AFC's and females) don't. Its the harsh truth, but thats life.

 

[squirrels]

Oh sh!t!

She left her keys in my car.

Should I be a d!ck about this?

 

[ToP DoN]

yeah

be a di ck s

you paid for pvssy and u should get it

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by squirrels
the idea, though, was that she came with me, we were on a date, and she was going home with me, sex or no.

that is understandable, and she was a real b!tch and slut for not going with you. the only thing i can think of is that she just isn't interested. if she really cared she wouldn't have done something so careless, right? so it might sting a little, but that was the slap of rejection. don't give a flakey girl the chance of slapping you with that again!


i wonder what happened to make her lose interest? it had to have happened some time at the bar. you were having fun, right? you weren't in one of those depressive squirrelly moods were you? you should've flirted with other girls slliiiiggghhhtly, just to play on her natural jealousy. harmless meaningless flirting is charming, and works wonders.

you aren't involved enough to get emotional, so you aren't entitled to throw an emotional fit. just tell her she's not worth your time, and drive safely. then give her her keys back. let her come for them, though!

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by iqqi
i wonder what happened to make her lose interest? it had to have happened some time at the bar. you were having fun, right? you weren't in one of those depressive squirrelly moods were you? you should've flirted with other girls slliiiiggghhhtly, just to play on her natural jealousy. harmless meaningless flirting is charming, and works wonders.

I don't even know if she can get into her apartment without the keys...she said she was gonna crash at her friend's house.

I wasn't depressed...I was having about as much fun as I could in that place, being "tied down" and all. I just kinda started backing off and giving her a little space when she didn't seem like she was reciprocating my kino...and evidently she took that as a license to run off.

It could be as simple as the sex sucking last time, but in that case she never should've called me back after that, and never should've agreed to go out with me again. She wanted to use me that night. (I guess I kinda wanted to "use" her too, but I was willing to put the time in. She wasn't.)

Either way, I'm not going to be ignorant. Her place is on my way home, so I'll drop her keys off for her then. If that's not good enough, then she'll have to wait.

 

[Jay Fiedler]

Dude, for crying out loud dont drop those keys off!!! She blantantly disrespects you and then you do her bidding and give her something that she desperately wants?! Helllllzzzzz no. Make her come over and get them when "you have time".

One thing I've really noticed about you squirrels. No dispresect here...... you talk a good game, but when it comes down to it more often than not you almost always revert to your afc ways. Time to start puting those words of yours into action.

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by Jay Fiedler
Dude, for crying out loud dont drop those keys off!!! She blantantly disrespects you and then you do her bidding and give her something that she desperately wants?! Helllllzzzzz no. Make her come over and get them when "you have time".

i second that

Originally posted by Jay Fiedler
One thing I've really noticed about you squirrels. No dispresect here...... you talk a good game, but when it comes down to it more often than not you almost always revert to your afc ways. Time to start puting those words of yours into action.

i second that

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by Jay Fiedler
Dude, for crying out loud dont drop those keys off!!! She blantantly disrespects you and then you do her bidding and give her something that she desperately wants?! Helllllzzzzz no. Make her come over and get them when "you have time".

One thing I've really noticed about you squirrels. No dispresect here...... you talk a good game, but when it comes down to it more often than not you almost always revert to your afc ways. Time to start puting those words of yours into action.

Fiedler...

1) I ended up not having her keys.

2) If I HAD had her keys, would I really want her calling up constantly wanting to get them, or did I just want to get her out of my hair? What would I gain by tormenting her? I'm bigger than that. All I wanted was out. Not to be petty and vengeful...that does nothing but justify her actions.

3) If her apartment is on my way home from work, why, after what happened last night, would I WANT to tell her where I LIVE??

4) She called at like 2:00 in the afternoon, unable to get in her house. I got the message and waited until after work to call her (4:00) and tell her I didn't have them. Believe me, I at no time put myself out. It would've been putting myself out MORE to play stupid "come and get me" games with a girl I want nothing more to do with.

Think about it. Yes, last night was an AFC debacle and I learned from it, I hope. But at this point it isn't about petty revenge. It's about me cutting ties with a girl who wasn't worthy of my time and taking back my dignity. Her biggest loss last night was NOT her keys.