-PROOF- The Don Juan Discussion Forum WORKS

[RedZone122]

Hi there, although this is my first post, I've been reading these forums for roughly a week now, and my life has drastically changed. I'm not a stay-at-home computer geek with no friends like some of the people on this site claim everyone is. In fact, I'm not here to toot my own horn and convince you I'm the man - but I want to lay down the setting for my own story.

Over the past two years at my high school (Senior right now), I've changed a lot. I know everyone, have tons of friends, girls like me, I throw the best parties. I was always fairly happy with my life, things seemed to be going good. However, I always felt like something was missing. I'm a great socializer, flirtatious, have plenty of the DJ traits and characteristics, but for some reason it just didn't seem to all come through when it came to ladies. I had a few girlfriends here and there, along with people expressing interest in me, but I was never able to pull it together and I didn't know why. My friends and I would spend tons of our time sitting around smoking and drinking, talking about why we simply don't understand girls.

Then, by some act of God... I found this website. I kid you not, in simply a week this has changed my perspective on the world. I've finally realized that the few minor things I was doing wrong were throwing me off course big time. Many call the Don Juan techniques found here "weapons". I don't prefer to view it this way. I, without knowing, had TONS of the Don Juan techniques, acquiring them just in socializing - however with this arsenal of weapons, I still wasn't getting anywhere. The best way to understand the tricks and techniques on this site is that it is a perspective on life, not a bunch of smoke and mirrors, and ace's up the sleeve.

Discovering this site, this underground society, and all of you amazingly intelligent and thought-provoking men - has changed everything. I don't know anyone here, however I hope that changes soon - as I plan on giving advice once I master it all and DJ myself. The way I like to think of my life is much like a jigsaw puzzle. I was able to find all the piece, and put it together, but that's basically all I had. Just a dumb puzzle sitting on a coffee table. You can't pick it up and show it off, but it's all there, right? These forums are the frame for my puzzle. I can now show off all the little things I've had, but never been able to put together.

The other amazing thing about everything here is the DJ bible. The one thing I can absolutely recommend is do NOT sit down and read the entire bible. I've found that I'll wake up, read a few articles, and be absolutely inspired and PUMPED (Yes I read articles and actually get my heart racing - because they're so damn true! - shutup I'm sure some of you do it too ) Then I'll go out, run some errands, come back thinking "eh, I've read pretty much everything on there, there won't be anything new" and BOOM - an article that touches on something I've never though of before. Take them all in stride, and slowly apply them to your life.

I forget who wrote it - but the best quote I found on here was one about golf. It said something along the lines of "golf can not be won, only played". The author then went on to explain how the dating world is similar. This site points out the fact that we have to admit that we ARE in a game, and we have to conform to the rules in order to succeed. Don't live your life saying "chicks suck, who needs them". Play the game - and master it.

Thank you to all you DJ's out there. I can not express the admiration I have for whoever it was that founded this website. I hope that I can give back, however little a contribution it may be. Thank you.

 

[improvingdonjuan]

welcome aboard, new DJ

 

[RedZone122]

Thanks, I appreciate it. Anyone else have a similar experience or story?

 

[Vigilante7]

congrats, there are tons of success stories, just look at the pages and ull see alot

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[Hundert]

a word of warning though: I got my heart racing after I found the forum & the bible as well, would take to lots women and get positive reactions and just overall be quite the radiant being but the effect wore off after a couple of rejections, then I didnt have net access and exam stress and all my game was gone and I was damn insecure again.

Now I have internet access again, the semester starts, exams are over and I can already feel my self-image improve. It's just that when I first read everything I thought I had found the gate to a perfect life, but over time discovered that what I found was a map where the hard-to-find and difficult start of the long and hard road to integrity and women might be located.

It's still the best I've found though, and I plan to put it to good use.
but it takes a lot more time than you think when you first discover this place.

 

[Dirtheart]

In my case I realise that I've had the potential to be a DJ for a long time just by being myself. However, I thought AFC behaviour was the way to get women, so (not knowing I was going wrong)I'd consciously commit all the AFC mistakes.

After finding this site, I've come to see exactly what mistakes to avoid and why, and have picked up a lot of tips for developing my attitude with women.

I returned to university today after the Easter break, determined to put some of these techniques into action. This stuff DEFINITELY works! I've arranged to go out with two women next week, have 2 numbers, lots of hi's and smiles from strangers and I spent the afternoon with a girl I only met today (and who is definitely into me!).

I originally came to this site for help in getting back with an -ex, but now I'm perfectly happy to let that go.

 

[Skel]

Glad you find this site and its helping you however dont think this website is only about getting laid. Its not. You can apply everything you learn here to your life and make it better, whatever that means to you.

 

[RedZone122]

Right, but I think a lot of you are missing what I'm saying. No, you won't be transformed into a DJ IMMEDIATELY after reading these. But what you will IMMEDIATELY see is progress! It does not take long at all for confidence and self-image to SKYROCKET after simply browsing this website! It's unbelievable!

 

[RedZone122]

Has anyone else here seen IMMEDIATE changes after first finding the forum?

 

[Crank_It_Up]

Originally posted by gOLDENBoy83
... I ended with one girl kissing me, one hot blonde dancing with me closely and asking ME for my icq number and another girl asking me for my icq number, too.
I've been on private parties with all these three girls before, and they never showed a bit of interest.

All I did was trying to "lead" the party and dance as good as I can which seperated me from my three non-dancing male buddies...

lots of guys here read about the importance of dancing, but they still fail to try it... too shy, too scared, too afraid, too intimidated, or too convinced that they are too clumsy to dance.

they collect around the outside of the room and try to look cool with a carefully poised drink in one hand, perhaps a cigarette in the other. But the women are checking out the one guy on the dance floor, watching the way he moves and imagining what he'd be like in bed.

Armed with this knowledge, many readers here will say to themselves, "I'm gonna learn how to dance". They crank up some music, look at themselves in the mirror and are convinced in the first 20 seconds that they just can't do it. But what sort of results can you expect from 20 seconds of practice?

Bottom line.... start practicing... get it?

 

[abraham]

Crank_It_Up, fuzzx, I can't help but agree 120% about dancing. Girls like a man who knows how to move and has no fear showing it. I once read this signature in one post (ok, something like this): "Never fear been the first one in the dance floor". It shows confidence, and lets cuties check how you move your ass too

If you really enjoy dancing you'll be different to the rest, you'll be having a good time without needing women, and as Master DJs say, women like men that can live without them.

Knowing basic dancing steps require some practice, but it's easier than it seems (hope it happens the same with the whole DJ philosophy) and makes a great difference. Learning a dance style makes you really different. How many guys you see that actually dance? I mean, each time I go out, most of men that try to dance limit themselves to act as fools or repeat the same step for ever.

Best think you can do is go and get salsa classes as I did last year, you get lots of coordination and style, and can apply many of the steps designed to dance alone to other kinds of music.

 

[RedZone122]

I think I may take a few dance lessons too...

 

[RedZone122]

*BUMP* - Any other comments?

 

[Phonenix DJ]

This underground society...

For sure!

At first I saw this website as a site with a lot of manipulation, but if we pay attention, girls read a lot about how to make man fall in love with them, so this is not manipulation but a GAME.

So, This is not a site about manipulation but rather about learning the rules of the game.

And as everything else this like studying any other subject.

Its funny that some people may read our posts and make fun or say thats crazy or nonsense...
But who cares?

 

[JT47319]

Re: This underground society...

Originally posted by Phonenix DJ
For sure!

At first I saw this website as a site with a lot of manipulation, but if we pay attention, girls read a lot about how to make man fall in love with them, so this is not manipulation but a GAME.

So, This is not a site about manipulation but rather about learning the rules of the game.

The reality is that GURLS UNCONSCIOULY ALREADY KNOW how to play the game. They've been steeped in it since puberty. They discuss amongst each other and all the "tactics" they use.

They just aren't actively AWARE of what they're doing. They are UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT (just like Naturals) while PUAs who are committed to the game are CONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT.

Women are experts at subcommunication and observing body language, but they wouldn't ever be able to vocalize it or analyze because it's something that has become inherent in their very being. They do it without even thinking, it's like breathing to them.

Which is why PUAs have to practice, practice, practice in order to be at the same level of competence as girls in order to effectively game them.

 

[Phonenix DJ]

Good point of view

JT47319

I agree!

Its incredible that they have this gift!

We poor men have to learn all this stuff.
Life is not fair!

YOu`re right!

 

[RedZone122]

I agree with you as well JT

 

[wayword]

The reality is that GURLS UNCONSCIOULY ALREADY KNOW how to play the game. They've been steeped in it since puberty. They discuss amongst each other and all the "tactics" they use.

They just aren't actively AWARE of what they're doing. They are UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT (just like Naturals) while PUAs who are committed to the game are CONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT.

Women are experts at subcommunication and observing body language, but they wouldn't ever be able to vocalize it or analyze because it's something that has become inherent in their very being. They do it without even thinking, it's like breathing to them.

Which is why PUAs have to practice, practice, practice in order to be at the same level of competence as girls in order to effectively game them.

Game recognize game. The more I learn, the more I notice how much game girls all possess. It's like we're all trying to catch up to their social IQ level.

In most co-ed groups these days, you'll notice that most of the girls are busy yapping away non-stop and the guys are more laid-back and quiet. The girls will be going C&F, negging, getting very aggressive, domineering, constantly trying to DHV & AMOG you, peacocking, BL, etc etc. It's almost gender role-reversal to how you think things should be...and kind of shocking when you think about how much nerves and balls they are displaying.

I don't know that it's all unconscious, though. A lot of it is learned behavior that they started developing after puberty when they realized they could get further in life using womanipulation and sex appeal instead of brute strength or brainpower.

 

[donjuan87]

The way I like to think of my life is much like a jigsaw puzzle. I was able to find all the piece, and put it together, but that's basically all I had. Just a dumb puzzle sitting on a coffee table. You can't pick it up and show it off, but it's all there, right? These forums are the frame for my puzzle. I can now show off all the little things I've had, but never been able to put together.

VERY good analogy!

 

[GQ_Confidence_1]

Kino alone will change your life.

The thing about the bible is that it's not like an owners manual for a car. Or a strategy guide for a video game, in which you have to read the whole thing to get the full value out of it. You could apply 10-20% of it, and you'd be miles ahead of most guys.

Back to kino. Before this site, I was never even conscious of it. I've applied it in many, many different scenario's, never had it fail. It's foolproof if it's naturally done.

Kino, EC, and do a few other techniques, and it's game over.

It's amazing how some people struggle for years doing all these complicated things, and yet if you try just a few other techniques, it works like a charm.