Poon King on Leading

resilient

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 15, 2005
Messages
1,678
Reaction score
1,413
PK has been gone for a while. One time I PM him almost exactly a year ago about my first plate post-divorce that had been giving me a ton of hot/cold signals in and out of the bedroom. I allowed my ex-wife to strip away my confidence and self-esteem after many years. I was a shell of a man. I had to learn to gain back my all the self-respect I had given up. I didn't know how to steer the ship in the direction I wanted to. I lost frame quick and subsequently, my plate jumped to another branch during my confusion.

That said, here's some of the advice he shared that I wanted to pass on to you guys:

- Women can sense insecurity and neediness in men and it scares them away.
- Women don't want to be your security blanket or therapist.
- A woman's job is to please a man sexually, not the other way around.
- Caring too much of how a woman thinks of you is very unattractive to women.
- The mindset needs to be: "This is who I am and this is what I want.. take it or leave it".
- You should always be bringing women into YOUR world... not going into theirs.
- There is ALWAYS time to spin plates (a reference to my crazy work/school schedule).

One of the central themes of PK's posts was he always redirecting us men to reframe

Think of all the negs, sh!t tests, hot/cold signals, flakiness, radio silence, breadcrumbs as offenses to the man. Almost always Indicators of disIinterest.

A man with abundance or high value doesn't sit there and over-analyze every single little detail. He guides and leads the behavior and rewards her with attention and affection when warranted. However, he can just as much withdraw it if she starts acting up consistently and disrespecting him.

After repeated warnings, he may bump her down from main plate status or drop plate altogether.
 

GT40

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Dec 29, 2016
Messages
357
Reaction score
225
Age
52
Location
Canada
Very well stated. Men must lead all the time. Always have game and take things to new
Levels.
 

ChristopherColumbus

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 8, 2016
Messages
2,315
Reaction score
1,278
Age
57
Location
korea
I'm convinced that you want the women to do the 'chasing'.

You must first put yourself out there, and then respond in kind when she shows interest. She is the moth to your flame.

The lazy man's guide to women.

I've found this 'cool hand Luke' approach generates more attraction in the women. Also, I do not get over-invested or needy. It's like I am standing in an open posture [and on the shoulders of giants], and it is for the women to move toward me. This is leading, but not me chasing.

As for developing 'feelings'. I think there is a lot of confusion about this. I draw a distinction between emotion and feelings, with feelings the negative and emotion the positive. At some point, that is with a relationship, you want to develop emotion/ intimacy... this has been earned by a process of courtship. 'Feelings', which tend to fly away unrestrained by you, are to be avoided.

There is a base and a super-structure to close encounters of the womanly kind. The super-structural element is a relationship. If that is what you desire from a women, it may require a different base to the standard DJ approach to sleep with a woman as quickly as you can. A steady, constructive, catch the monkey slowly, approach is better for building a relationship [bedding a woman as quickly as you can may short-circuit the emotional/ courtship base required for a relationship].

So the screening process is extremely important:

1] Can I be bothered with this woman?
2] What do I want from this woman.. if anything?
3] Your approach to all women requires a 'goldilocks zone' - not too hot, not too cold... just right. This will differ from woman to woman.
 
Last edited:

exhausted

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 22, 2014
Messages
1,238
Reaction score
712
Location
usa
Very well stated. Men must lead all the time. Always have game and take things to new
Levels.
My ex is npd and admits to being a control freak, i am a natural leader (3 sisters, elite athlete, raised a kid on my own, carried the family when my dad passed) so we naturally clashed. What got me even tho she is a control freak she naturally did better when i lead and she always came to me for about every advice possible in life, yet was unhappy and caused fights when she didnt control everything.

This was absolutely exhausting and confusing.

Now she's single and i dont see her ever having anyone. Seriously not being mean or spiteful i dont know how anyone would deal w her as she gets worse w time
 

Red Legg

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
923
Reaction score
745
Location
USA
PK has been gone for a while. One time I PM him almost exactly a year ago about my first plate post-divorce that had been giving me a ton of hot/cold signals in and out of the bedroom. I allowed my ex-wife to strip away my confidence and self-esteem after many years. I was a shell of a man. I had to learn to gain back my all the self-respect I had given up. I didn't know how to steer the ship in the direction I wanted to. I lost frame quick and subsequently, my plate jumped to another branch during my confusion.

That said, here's some of the advice he shared that I wanted to pass on to you guys:

- Women can sense insecurity and neediness in men and it scares them away.
- Women don't want to be your security blanket or therapist.
- A woman's job is to please a man sexually, not the other way around.
- Caring too much of how a woman thinks of you is very unattractive to women.
- The mindset needs to be: "This is who I am and this is what I want.. take it or leave it".
- You should always be bringing women into YOUR world... not going into theirs.
- There is ALWAYS time to spin plates (a reference to my crazy work/school schedule).

One of the central themes of PK's posts was he always redirecting us men to reframe

Think of all the negs, sh!t tests, hot/cold signals, flakiness, radio silence, breadcrumbs as offenses to the man. Almost always Indicators of disIinterest.

A man with abundance or high value doesn't sit there and over-analyze every single little detail. He guides and leads the behavior and rewards her with attention and affection when warranted. However, he can just as much withdraw it if she starts acting up consistently and disrespecting him.

After repeated warnings, he may bump her down from main plate status or drop plate altogether.
Gold plated post,and solid advice.
 
Top