Plenty of Fish experience and opener Tips with results!

[Naughty Ninja]

I was asked by another member of the forums to post tips and openers that get definite results on Plenty of Fish online dating.

First I want to state that I and you should only use online dating as a suppliment to normal dating and a means of sharpening your conversation skills and not the end all be all to your dating life.



DO NOT expect results with everyone.

DO NOT get online one itus. Keep copy and paste emailing.

DO NOT worry about what to say. You don't have to reply A.S.A.P.

DO NOT take rejection personal. There will be alot of "read", "read-deleted" "unread deleted" emails that you will have sent out. Keep it movin and send a different one to them later.


The negatives:

True there are alot of overweight women and single mom's. There are alot of good looking single women too. (Though they may not be normal). There will be cvnts, attention wh0res, bores etc.

They frown on "copy and paste" emails. What's hilarious about it is the owners welcome email is copy and pasted to everyone who joins. I sent copy and paste anyway.

* I have been kicked off the site as two "lovely's" didn't appreciate me being quicker and wittier in my replies. So they obviously reported me and I was booted and my new profile was deleted. It takes two reports to get you booted. Online dating is not for the faint of heart and there are alot of chronic residents of those sites. They seem to appreciate the supplicating "males" who whine constantly and send the same old boring emails yet wonder why no one responds even though they read the entire profile and thoughtfully responded to it in detail. Everyone likes the same thing everyone else does: The Beach, laughing, adventure etc. BORING.

My strategy for the time I was on:

I didn't read the profiles. I send the copy and paste and if someone is interested in it and finds it funny I kept up the small talk and would find a key point in their profile to bust on them about. I didn't have the time nor cared what was written in their boring resume type "profile" to spend writing about what they liked or disliked waiting and hoping for a reply.

I had about 8 clear, recent photos of myself doing things. And yes I went against the grain and had pictures with myself and attractive girls even in my main picture. (All the "experts" say this is a no-no.) I say it's social proof and I didn't care if some online twit was affected by it. As if she wasn't dating people while she was on the site herself.

My profile had a good username "Liger Woods".

My headline was: "Two Steps Ahead of Stingrays"

And my about me was light hearted and humorous. If you decide or are on POF don't go crazy over it as it's only online dating. No big deal.

My headline intro's were:

HaHaHaHa! You are sooo NERDY!

Yeah, that's what she said!

Shame on you!

My copy and paste email body's were:

Does your boyfriend know you have a Plenty of Fish account? Nice try, but you aren't fooling the intelligent people you lil cutie you! You are wrong woman! The poor guy probably is in love with you and you're looking to upgrade. Tsk. Tsk. =(

Nice profile! But, that's what she said! So you expect people to believe that you are really single? Hmmm, I’m not so sure about that! Does your man know you're on Plenty of Fish? I’m on to you, you mischievous lil cutie! Poor guy’s probably at home crying over you and you’re looking to upgrade! You’re busted you nerd! Shame on you! lol!

After a response:

I introduced myself and if the response was laughing or they seemed cool: What brought them to POF, What they were for last Halloween, their greatest fears, and what types of foods they liked. Then kept up with the small talk and after two days or so asked for their facebook (to see more pics of them and they could see more of mine). Then asked for their number.

The positives were I still talk to five of them and we'll meet when I have time. I had 25 replies in my inbox from my intros and didn't have time to reply to all of them before I got booted.

Replies welcome. I'll respond to questions as this is all I can think of for now.

 

[Scion]

there's a reason guys refer to it as "Plenty of Manatees". IMHO it's not worth your time, unless you like being strung along by attention *****s.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

there's a reason guys refer to it as "Plenty of Manatees". IMHO it's not worth your time, unless you like being strung along by attention *****s.

Not all of them are. And honestly I didn't care. That's why my intro throws the boyfriend thing right out there. Plus I never complimented them on anything. Just kept up a small talk conversation. I sent my copy and paste emails and got ALOT of replies. Then I took it from there. You just have to search and look at the pictures. Fatties have ways of hiding behind friends, taking pics from far away, taking pics with the camera high, or wearing certain types of clothing to shave of pounds. There are some normal good looking ones if you search. And my copy and paste had them answering.

 

[Scion]

Not all of them are. And honestly I didn't care. That's why my intro throws the boyfriend thing right out there. Plus I never complimented them on anything. Just kept up a small talk conversation. I sent my copy and paste emails and got ALOT of replies. Then I took it from there. You just have to search and look at the pictures. Fatties have ways of hiding behind friends, taking pics from far away, taking pics with the camera high, or wearing certain types of clothing to shave of pounds. There are some normal good looking ones if you search. And my copy and paste had them answering.

I've tried it and found if you weed out the fatties and attention *****s there aren't a lot left. I've been out with about 10 quality girls from there, but that was over a period of about a year or so. I personally think it's not worth the time. This is a debate I had with a friend, he thought that POF was a great way to get some ass, I disagreed (later found out he only banged 1 girl off of there, and got 3 *******s. Not exactly what I would consider good results).

 

[Naughty Ninja]

It's a suppliment and only to be used to sharpen your skills in conversation not the end all be all. Plus better he banged one girl off there than sit at home that night playing with his meat puppet!

 

[COD]

Your Results Are Lame At Best

WELL first off, you were BANNED from a dating site............primarily due to your choice of words, so in reality ALL YOUR EFFORT was basically wasted. Anyone were to follow your advice would almost meet similar fate........NOT GOOD TO FOLLOW SOMEONE WHO "WRECKED" AN ONLINE PICK UP.

-that old, tired, "DOES YOUR MAN KNOW".............no real women would actually fall for that, and I would question what type of woman you are meeting with that BS cut n paste.

-from your email I would conject your read/deleted ratio is WAY TOO HIGH...........the goal is to READ AND RESPOND...........NOT DELETED...............I SAY PAY ATTENTION TO THAT FEATURE (read/deleted)...............if u get more deletions you are doing something wrong and need to try SOMETHING THAT REAPS RESULTS.

-THERE ARE WAY BETTER, LESS INSULTING subject lines that GET results...........

-your profile needs a make-over, i would say your comprehension of Scorring on the net is not really SUITABLE TO SPEW ANY ADVICE.

Theres a right way (funny, cool, psychology, proper NLP word choice, etc) and your way........which might better be labled HOW TO REPEL MOST WOMEN FROM MEETING YOU.

Now this may seem harsh but ONLINE DATING IS A SKILL and clearly you have much to learn...........I just dont want anyone to follow this advice as it has WAY TOO MANY FLAWS AND LITTLE SUCCESS.

SO TO RECAP.............THIS IS NOT A SUCCESS MODEL TO COPY.

COPY N PASTES GETS U BANNED, COPY N PASTE GETS YOU LOW QUALITY RESPONSES............

ORIGINALITY SCORE POINTS, GENUINE WINS hands down..........

DONT GET UPSET with my comments.........go back and IMPROVE YOUR GAME, THEN SHARE REAL SUCCESS NUMBERS WTH US..........go ahead we will wait

 

[Naughty Ninja]

WELL first off, you were BANNED from a dating site............primarily due to your choice of words, so in reality ALL YOUR EFFORT was basically wasted. Anyone were to follow your advice would almost meet similar fate........NOT GOOD TO FOLLOW SOMEONE WHO "WRECKED" AN ONLINE PICK UP.

It was due to my witty replies to two "ladies" who didn't appreciate that I got in the last word and had better replies after talking. They obviously had issues. Still had 25 responses within four days and have about 6 or 7 numbers. 5 of which I normally keep in contact with. 8 facebook add's for future possibilities. I was on for about three weeks and had alot more responses and convo's some that I didn't bother with going further.

-that old, tired, "DOES YOUR MAN KNOW".............no real women would actually fall for that, and I would question what type of woman you are meeting with that BS cut n paste.

You can question. I just do it.

-from your email I would conject your read/deleted ratio is WAY TOO HIGH...........the goal is to READ AND RESPOND...........NOT DELETED...............I SAY PAY ATTENTION TO THAT FEATURE (read/deleted)...............if u get more deletions you are doing something wrong and need to try SOMETHING THAT REAPS RESULTS.

I said I got some deletions. Alot more responses. Too many to keep talking with all different people and writing names and what we talked about or let my convo history get jammed with tons of convo's. I decided who I wanted to keep talking with.


-THERE ARE WAY BETTER, LESS INSULTING subject lines that GET results...........

And those would be?

-your profile needs a make-over, i would say your comprehension of Scorring on the net is not really SUITABLE TO SPEW ANY ADVICE.

If you found it I don't know how. Search for it and trying to log into it doesn't work. So it's probably not my profile.

Theres a right way (funny, cool, psychology, proper NLP word choice, etc) and your way........which might better be labled HOW TO REPEL MOST WOMEN FROM MEETING YOU.

It's your choice to hide in darkness cursing the light. I do me. And it worked. You need TWO people to report you to get bounced from the site. They cater to women for traffic and success. Trust me dude. I can be extremely witty and funny as was mentioned by ALOT of women in replies to me. Like it or not.

Now this may seem harsh but ONLINE DATING IS A SKILL and clearly you have much to learn...........I just dont want anyone to follow this advice as it has WAY TOO MANY FLAWS AND LITTLE SUCCESS.

So why don't you show us how it's "really done". Post your original email and people can use it and see the responses. I'll tell people to post mine and I guarantee they get more quicker replies.

SO TO RECAP.............THIS IS NOT A SUCCESS MODEL TO COPY.

Do you. I do me. Show us how you succeed.

COPY N PASTES GETS U BANNED, COPY N PASTE GETS YOU LOW QUALITY RESPONSES............

ORIGINALITY SCORE POINTS, GENUINE WINS hands down..........

Sure if you have tons of time on your hands to tailor a reply to every girl you find interesting or good looking. It was a side thing for me my man. Plus read anywhere in google and in the POF forums where guy after guy constantly complains on sending tailored replies to get nothing in return. Besides it is the internet and most women do it to pass time and are "not so special" according to many people so why knock yourself out making a unique email tailored to each person you find attractive to you and hope for a response? The originals of mine were copy and paste not the conversations after.

DONT GET UPSET with my comments.........go back and IMPROVE YOUR GAME, THEN SHARE REAL SUCCESS NUMBERS WTH US..........go ahead we will wait

I don't get upset. I got results. Again, in just 4 days I had 25 inbox replies to my original copy and paste and had many more previously in the three weeks I was on. So I got booted. I got numbers and facebook add's in that time. Unless some people prefer living on an online dating site going berserk over hoping people reply to their message.

I say to anyone on Plenty of Fish to send out my copy and paste emails and tell me they don't get replies faster than wasting time reading everyones profile and waiting for a response to their tailored message to every woman they find attractive.

Show us your way COD. Show us how it's really done. We're waiting. Now get to work.

 

[Bluntmaster]

I did get replies with Ninjas email but they never led anywhere. They reply initially but then fall off.

Then again, I have never had luck on POF as far as lays. I have had multiple lays off craigslist and match. Those 2 are the sites I use, and I have a special spam message that I use. I am meeting a chic from match tonight, and a chic from craigslist tomorrow.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I did get replies with Ninjas email but they never led anywhere. They reply initially but then fall off.

Then again, I have never had luck on POF as far as lays. I have had multiple lays off craigslist and match. Those 2 are the sites I use, and I have a special spam message that I use. I am meeting a chic from match tonight, and a chic from craigslist tomorrow.

Did you make small talk? Ask them random questions about experiences on the site? I go for a number pretty quick and or a facebook add so they can see me more and I can see them. Depends on how the convo goes after the initial email. What did you wind up talking about? If you come off as too serious and unhappy/desperate they might sense it. I'm not sure about what you talked about after. I'd usually send a reply that you felt they weren't totally honest in their profile and go from there about their profile.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Did you make small talk? Ask them random questions about experiences on the site? I go for a number pretty quick and or a facebook add so they can see me more and I can see them. Depends on how the convo goes after the initial email. What did you wind up talking about? If you come off as too serious and unhappy/desperate they might sense it. I'm not sure about what you talked about after. I'd usually send a reply that you felt they weren't totally honest in their profile and go from there about their profile.

I made small talk. Don't worry, I am an online pro. Just never have luck on POF. I even got a number with your reply but she's an attention ho.

Like I said, I have a much better spam message that I've been using for years on match. I don't like the free sites because the girls just want attention or are damaged goods.

 

[EFFORT]

Online dating is really straight forward. Its all in your pictures. If you look good you'll get the results despite what you say to them. If your average looking all you need to do is build a muscular body with a 6pack and you'll do very well.

 

[COD]

But Whats Your Read Vrs Deleted Ratio

u CLAIM U HAD 25 REPLIES IN 4 DAYS..........how many did u sleep with, how many gave you their number, AND THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT WAS THE RATIO OF DELETED VRS RESPONDED (positively).

Look Dude, I am a big fan of Scorring on the net...it works, no argument.......but I am constantly looking for a better success ratio. If I sent out 100 emails and only got laid twice, regardless of how many responses I got....one would conclude my SUCCESS MODEL NEEDS FINE TUNNING.

DO yourself a favor.............count the number of emails U send and see how many POSITIVE RESPONSES you get and count the number of NO RESPONSES, DELETIONS, REJECTIONS..........I am willing to bet you are batting 25% at best case scenario.

There are way too many variables that must be in place PRIOR TO me just spewing a cut n paste.

to master net dating.........I am talking 400 plus reponses in a few days, 98% response ratio's, requires a fundamental understanding of how web-sites make their money, what types of people are actively seeking, key word analysis, a bit of reverse psychology, marketing tricks, email tactics, computer screen length and how to stand out the list goes on and on.

and when I say 98% response rate I actually have achieved this...but let me tell ya, it took a long time to perfect that success model. Women repond differnt online than in person.........so U gotta alter your negs, C & F, etc accordingly.

SO ENOUGH BOASTING GIVE US SOME TIPS...............OK FAIR ENOUGH.

SIMPLE YET VERY EFFECTIVE..........TRY THIS OUT......are u ready.....

SUBJECT LINE: LUV YOUR HAIR.......HATE THE........

That alone should get your email read..........as far as the email goes.......again that would vary depending on the female. I have a few generic templates for (over 35, recently divorced, still married, tall women, short chics, chics with glasses, chics with tattoos, barbie doll wannabes, etc, etc)......and they all work big time.

U want specifics........get the book.

I have moved on from net dating and now am mastering digital deception, same night lays, speed seduction in the field.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I made small talk. Don't worry, I am an online pro. Just never have luck on POF. I even got a number with your reply but she's an attention ho.

Like I said, I have a much better spam message that I've been using for years on match. I don't like the free sites because the girls just want attention or are damaged goods.

Bluntmaster, would you mind sharing your spam message in the thread? Not all are AW's. I've got one I still talk to. She's a hottie but I don't let her know that. And don't care if she is as I'm talking to others from there and meet tons of girls when I work my part time selling women's shoes and going out in general.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Bluntmaster, would you mind sharing your spam message in the thread?

Yes I mind, because as soon as I post it here it will come up in GOOGLE search and I will be busted when women search for it and it could ruin my game.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

u CLAIM U HAD 25 REPLIES IN 4 DAYS..........how many did u sleep with, how many gave you their number, AND THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT WAS THE RATIO OF DELETED VRS RESPONDED (positively).

Got about 9 numbers. About 3 didn't bother with. Talking to six. those were ones who initially responded previous to the 25 replies sitting in my inbox that I never got a chance to respond to as I was booted from the site. Remember it takes only two people to report you to get booted off POF.

Look Dude, I am a big fan of Scorring on the net...it works, no argument.......but I am constantly looking for a better success ratio. If I sent out 100 emails and only got laid twice, regardless of how many responses I got....one would conclude my SUCCESS MODEL NEEDS FINE TUNNING.

True. I tweak as I go along. And think of newer, quick responses that may work. I don't want to bang everyone I send a message to. Why? Because for all I know they may be clingy, or have something, or be a nutjob.

DO yourself a favor.............count the number of emails U send and see how many POSITIVE RESPONSES you get and count the number of NO RESPONSES, DELETIONS, REJECTIONS..........I am willing to bet you are batting 25% at best case scenario.

It was about 50%. The ones who didn't I just deleted. No time to waste on all that. It was just a side thing for me.

There are way too many variables that must be in place PRIOR TO me just spewing a cut n paste.

to master net dating.........I am talking 400 plus reponses in a few days, 98% response ratio's, requires a fundamental understanding of how web-sites make their money, what types of people are actively seeking, key word analysis, a bit of reverse psychology, marketing tricks, email tactics, computer screen length and how to stand out the list goes on and on.

I highly doubt anyone is getting a 98% response ratio unless they are top ten looking and really have a way with words. Plus who sends out 400 responses in a few days? I don't have time for that let alone responding to all them and remembering half the nonsense talked about, getting numbers, facebook, I do quick hits and talk to a few at a time otherwise it's too much work invested in a side thing for me. And that's even before meeting any of them!

and when I say 98% response rate I actually have achieved this...but let me tell ya, it took a long time to perfect that success model. Women repond differnt online than in person.........so U gotta alter your negs, C & F, etc accordingly.

SO ENOUGH BOASTING GIVE US SOME TIPS...............OK FAIR ENOUGH.

SIMPLE YET VERY EFFECTIVE..........TRY THIS OUT......are u ready.....

SUBJECT LINE: LUV YOUR HAIR.......HATE THE........

That's pretty good. Mine got read by all except about four people unread deleted.

That alone should get your email read..........as far as the email goes.......again that would vary depending on the female. I have a few generic templates for (over 35, recently divorced, still married, tall women, short chics, chics with glasses, chics with tattoos, barbie doll wannabes, etc, etc)......and they all work big time.

U want specifics........get the book.

I have moved on from net dating and now am mastering digital deception, same night lays, speed seduction in the field.

If net dating was so successful for you why did you move on? I don't go crazy over it. Again it is what it is and not the end all be all. Too much going on in real life to waste on net dating. I just gave simple tips on getting replies. It is good if you just use it as a side thing to meet people and work on conversation skills with possiblities for getting laid. If not no big deal. I'm pretty laid back and don't let my wittle feewings get huwted over it.

 

[COD]

HERES ONE THAT WORKED 100% OF THE TIME.........EVERY TIME, EVERYONE READ.........ZERO DELETED

SUBJECT LINE------BAD NEWS......

OR "I AM AFFRAID I HAVE SOME BAD NEWS"..........

then in your email you can write "ya the guy above me in your email list is STILL MARRIED".....just thought Id save you some time, anyways I'm..........

 

[nismo-4]

Online dating is really straight forward. Its all in your pictures. If you look good you'll get the results despite what you say to them. If your average looking all you need to do is build a muscular body with a 6pack and you'll do very well.

Or build a high fanbase. That can be quite tedious though. Maybe I can photoshop myself to have a 6 pack.

@ Naughty Ninja, I used the copy 'n paste message. It helps to a certain degree.

 

[EFFORT]

Or build a high fanbase. That can be quite tedious though. Maybe I can photoshop myself to have a 6 pack.

@ Naughty Ninja, I used the copy 'n paste message. It helps to a certain degree.

My friend actually did this. He got someone to photoshop a muscular body picture of him and his results immediately got better online

 

[Shivastorm_88]

I tried what was suggested here by Naughty, so far I'm still at the stage of answering replies, but I'm getting good results so far... Much, much better than I ever got when trying conventional messages

Cheers!

 

[Shivastorm_88]

Update: Out of around 50 emails, 10 replies, 2 facebook so far, some really funny replies, and one who was completely offended by my first email and wrote me a HYUGE pissy text but I turned it around and she came back asking for more... So far pretty good