Please help me understand how the hamster thinks

[AttackFormation]

She's a girl I added from a dating site recently, been sexting and called her once. Tonight which was her birthday, she said this:

Me "What are you texting me for if the pillow you're spooning with is fine "
Her "Does everything have to be about sex?"
Me "It wasn't sex I meant"
Her "Ok"
Me "You've become too used to everything being about sex"
Her: "Maybe so"
Me: "Are you feeling down or"
Her: "A little. Really angry at a guy I used to see. He was a real coward, immature and just used me"
Me: "Thought something was up, but why are you thinking about it"
Her: "Yeah but I'm not sorry just pissed off, thinking about it because it happened recently"
Me: "What do you mean by cowardly and immature?"
Her: "I wasn't interested in him for real but still not fun to be treated like some cheap wh0re. He often came in the middle of the night after he'd been clubbing. Drunk and said he wanted to spend time with me. When he was drunk he told me how much he liked me and thought about me. Then the next day I don't hear from him until he does the same thing again"

As a sidenote, on her facebook feed from 3 weeks before we started talking, she said "Its Been a long, long time since ive had this feeling... BUTTERFLIES!!! " which I assume refers to this guy but don't know.

My questions are:

1) Why is she saying she "wasn't really interested in him" when she posted that status? it's either she's denying it to herself or she's got two guys recently.
2) If she's telling the truth, why would she f*ck someone who treated her like a cheap wh0re and who she wasn't really interested in? especially when it says she's not looking for just a f*ckbuddy on her dating presentation.
3) Why is she blaming him? She went to bed with him willingly. She put up with his behaviour willingly. What the f*ck???
4) Why do girls call men cowardly and immature like this? I've been called so too. Don't they understand that if you just told them you wanted to be f*ckbuddies and so were "brave and mature", they wouldn't accept it and that's why it happens?

 

[Meisterman]

She's a girl I added from a dating site recently, been sexting and called her once. Tonight which was her birthday, she said this:

Me "What are you texting me for if the pillow you're spooning with is fine "
Her "Does everything have to be about sex?"
Me "It wasn't sex I meant"
Her "Ok"
Me "You've become too used to everything being about sex"
Her: "Maybe so"
Me: "Are you feeling down or"
Her: "A little. Really angry at a guy I used to see. He was a real coward, immature and just used me"
Me: "Thought something was up, but why are you thinking about it"
Her: "Yeah but I'm not sorry just pissed off, thinking about it because it happened recently"
Me: "What do you mean by cowardly and immature?"
Her: "I wasn't interested in him for real but still not fun to be treated like some cheap wh0re. He often came in the middle of the night after he'd been clubbing. Drunk and said he wanted to spend time with me. When he was drunk he told me how much he liked me and thought about me. Then the next day I don't hear from him until he does the same thing again"

As a sidenote, on her facebook feed from 3 weeks before we started talking, she said "Its Been a long, long time since ive had this feeling... BUTTERFLIES!!! " which I assume refers to this guy but don't know.

My questions are:

1) Why is she saying she "wasn't really interested in him" when she posted that status? it's either she's denying it to herself or she's got two guys recently.

She's lying. She was interested in him. She says she wasn't to protect her ego which got hurt during the process. In fact, the stronger a woman comes on to start off, the faster the train will fall off the tracks. That's why it's no surprise this came after she starting boasting about it on facebook, which clearly shows she was very invested.

2) If she's telling the truth, why would she f*ck someone who treated her like a cheap wh0re and who she wasn't really interested in? especially when it says she's not looking for just a f*ckbuddy on her dating presentation.

She's not telling the truth. And it wasn't until afterwards that she realized she was treated that way. Again, she talks sh*t about the guy to make herself feel better, because she was hurt by the experience and needs to rationalize it in her mind as "I wasn't interested in him anyway" which is total BS.

3) Why is she blaming him? She went to bed with him willingly. She put up with his behaviour willingly. What the f*ck???

Again, to deflect blame from herself. She was hurt by the situation. That's a fact. She can either take the blame herself and admit that she contributed to the pain she is now feeling, or completely project all of it on him. The latter choice is easier so she does that.

4) Why do girls call men cowardly and immature like this? I've been called so too. Don't they understand that if you just told them you wanted to be f*ckbuddies and so were "brave and mature", they wouldn't accept it and that's why it happens?

Pretty much the same reasons I listed 1-3. If they go out of their way to call you names like that, it means they care. That's why you never see them saying those to their beta orbiter worshippers. Because she couldn't give two fu*ks about them other than to boost her ego and give her attention when she wants it. Even though she would never fu*k them ever even though the guy is probably hopelessly hanging on to a slim chance it will actually happen.

Basically, if you stay within your frame, trust your gut, stay true to yourself, and a woman still gets mad at you, it doesn't mean it's your fault. Every situation is different, but you really can't control how they will act. All you can do is be the best man you know how to be.

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[GS750]

Meisterman covered it nicely. I see a few things going on here with this chick:

She's butthurt. She feels like she was used but she put herself in the situation and let it happen.
She's rationalizing the fvck out of everything. Typical female behavior. Nothing new there.
She's lying to herself.
She's lying to you.
She's a Facebook attention wh0re. Butterflies? Gimme a break. She probably scared the guy away by being clingy.
She's shifting the blame to the guy. She wh0red around and he probably dropped her like a hot rock when he got tired of fvcking her or found someone hotter or got tired of her altogether. Probably met him online and her charmed her pants off. Literally.
She decided to dump all this on you to let you know "how not to treat her". But she probably secretly likes being treated like sh*t. Who knows.
Her whining and overall attitude toward this guy makes her as transparent as a sliding glass door. She got pumped and dumped.

 

[Bokanovsky]

My questions are:

1) Why is she saying she "wasn't really interested in him" when she posted that status? it's either she's denying it to herself or she's got two guys recently.
2) If she's telling the truth, why would she f*ck someone who treated her like a cheap wh0re and who she wasn't really interested in? especially when it says she's not looking for just a f*ckbuddy on her dating presentation.
3) Why is she blaming him? She went to bed with him willingly. She put up with his behaviour willingly. What the f*ck???
4) Why do girls call men cowardly and immature like this? I've been called so too. Don't they understand that if you just told them you wanted to be f*ckbuddies and so were "brave and mature", they wouldn't accept it and that's why it happens?

1. Protecting her ego by being in denial
2. The guy is hot
3. Protecting her ego by deflecting blame
4. Protecting her ego by deflecting blame

The hamster is a primitive animal. It's mostly driven by raw emotion.

 

[Dgwizdal]

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Excellent dissection of that furry little rodent +1

 

[Poon King]

You're giving this dumb b!tch too much credit.

Women are not logical when it comes to sex. They are morons actually. Also, they don't see their own behavior in sexual relationships. They can't grasp cause and effect.

And since women are not the "hunters" in society.. they are programmed more to be reactive than pro active. To them.. "things happen" and they fail to see their role in those things. Men are hunters and fully understand how their behavior can influence the world and people around them.

Women are not introspective. They don't "ponder" or think deeply. They are profoundly ignorant and vapid. This is why they will always need men.

 

[El Payaso]

Typical female behavior. Nothing new here.

 

[djthiago1]

Other guys said all that needs to be said, but i'm going to add this:
1. Hamster doesn't think, it rationalizes.
2. Realize texting is never your friend, it's your ENEMY, prevent texting at all costs.

 

[VladPatton]

You're just messing around with a chick that got played by a prior dude. She got pumped and dumped, and is now pissed and constantly thinking about it. She's so obsessed by it that she's not even focused on hanging with you.

Too much drama, and it's best to just eject from these sort of situations.

 

[AttackFormation]

Thanks for your as usual solid comments guys, this site is great.

I'm not going to contact her, after this I said "whatever just forget about it and see me in the week so you'll feel better" to which she hasn't replied yet. For all I know she's still pining for him and just using me as an emotional tampon ego booster to get back at him, but forewarned is forearmed and thanks to the red pill community like you guys it won't dent me because I didn't drop anything for this girl or any other girl until they prove I can take them seriously.

It's amazing how women manage to turn you off taking them seriously with their own behaviour... these girls are just 20 and they're already broken. It's getting easier to decode their online dating languages:

"I'm not looking for a ****buddy/tired of just sex/etc." = I've treated myself like a cheap wh0re and then blamed the guys who pumped and dumped me for the blow to my ego my own stupidity caused, now I want you to pay for the mess by having to put up more to get worse sex from me than did the tingle-inducing @ssholes I willingly and repeatedly let cvm on my face and swallowed before you

Something else clarified in my mind too. Why should I have to treat her like more than the cheap wh0re she willingly made herself when she's been handing out her pvssy to guys she calls scum before? that's not fair. And then I realised two things - that's why so many girls post fancy variations of "don't judge me for my past" on their instagrams and facebooks. It's because they're all dumb b1tches who deny that their own choices have lasting consequences. And the other thing is that's why you guys are so wary of damaged goods, because you can only treat a woman as good as she let herself be treated in the past or you're cheating yourself. And that's why virginity is/was seen as sacred... it's not because she hasn't had sex, it's because up until that point she's treated herself with respect and so you can do so too without being the sucker. Everything you read here just makes more sense the more you connect it...

 

[Bingo-Player]

This text thread is the reason the so suave community was created

The basic outline of her frame is to validate her insecurity and start placing markers on how much influence and power she has over you


Her "Does everything have to be about sex?" – this sentence is one of THE most stereotypical s*it test a woman can produce , it will be worded in many different ways but fundamentally she is desperate to know where she stands with you

The second you validate yourself by replying with something like “no babe its not like that honestly xxxx” then the games begin


You actually handled that part fine but then proceeded to say this

Me: "Are you feeling down or"

confirming you actually care


the above is the equivalent of hamster steroids

and then

Her: "A little. Really angry at a guy I used to see. He was a real coward, immature and just used me"

In her mind she now wants you to desperately persuade her you aren’t “one of those guys” again allowing her hamster to get jacked at your expense


You should get the idea by now the others have posted some pretty good stuff too

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Excellent solid advice here. The only thing I could possibly add is that when **** like this comes up with a relatively new girl, like Mauser stated, tell her "yeah we've all been through stuff like that" "leave the past in the past" etc. Occasionally you come across a girl who will STILL keep going on and on about it; she may be one.

If she does, tell her you're not going to be her psychiatrist that she can talk about her feelings of past relationships with. If she gets pi$$y about it or rants about how you don't understand her, walk away. That kick in the ass you gave her about not being her emotional tampon is her wake up call; she needs to realize what it is and focus on the potential she has with you.

 

[AttackFormation]

Yeah Bingo I knew I had to handle that sh!t test properly or my frame was gone, I sat for minutes and thought about what I could say that would at least not hurt my frame.

I agree and I knew before I sent it that "are you feeling down or" would be acting like I cared... not the best idea I guess but I said it so I could get more out of her and see what the f*ck she was trying to make me ask about.

When she dropped this I had a hunch about that, like you said she wants me to start validating myself to her. I figured the only way I could save my frame from crumbling into beta supplicance at this point would be to call her out on her sh!t (I haven't included that part), to which she didn't respond, and then I gave some "advice" about respecting yourself so others can respect you to keep things going because it's obvious she won't confront her own f*ckups, she replied as I thought and then I said "whatever see me in the week so you'll feel better". But she still won the frame I think... she owed me a pvssy picture and now I can't ask for it without coming across as a douchebag thanks to the sh!t test she pulled...

 

[Vulpine]

Forest through the trees.

First off, texty games are for women. Second, Faceplant is for women. Third, Online dating is for women. This chick is a virtual chick: only online, on text, or in your fantasy. Go out and get some real women and stop wondering about virtual women.

I see you never actually touched or talked to this woman in real life. How the ƒuck do you give a sh¡t what she thinks? Do you sit around wondering what Cinderella is thinking? Hell no, because she's just as virtual a fantasy as the chick you are worrying about.

Stop hiding behind the screen and engage some women in the real world.

Online game = no game.
Stop hamstering (shooting an arrow wherever feelz best or is easiest, then painting a target around it) and quit playing women's games. Otherwise you'll be great at virtually getting laid.

 

[bukowski_merit]

Others have covered the questions well... But..... Just some advice....


If you're going to be sexting a woman - you must push for the meetup asap.

The longer you dwindle in dwindle world - the better chance you have of her losing all interest.

These women are crowded with male attention and once you become boring - she starts telling you about the ex who treated her poorly (giving you the exact blueprint on what she likes.)

Can almost guarantee that any request to meet her at this point will be met with "oh, i have to do laundry" type response.

Move on...

 

[AttackFormation]

Thanks for the additional input.

@bukowski, I strongly implied that I intend to meet ASAP on the evening I started chatting with her (after taking to heart what I read on this forum). I've been trying to see her a couple of times. I won't make excuses for why, even if I know she's legit been sick this last time because the mental effect is the same as you say - dwindling. And that's why I'm not going to talk to her again unless she contacts me.

 

[Poon King]

Others have covered the questions well... But..... Just some advice....


If you're going to be sexting a woman - you must push for the meetup asap.

The longer you dwindle in dwindle world - the better chance you have of her losing all interest.

These women are crowded with male attention and once you become boring - she starts telling you about the ex who treated her poorly (giving you the exact blueprint on what she likes.)

Can almost guarantee that any request to meet her at this point will be met with "oh, i have to do laundry" type response.

Move on...

That's probably the most annoying thing about these modern sluts we have today. You can't be too "boring" around them. What am I? A clown? I'm here to amuse you? I think Joe Pesci said it best in Goodfellas.

Who do these b!tches think they are that grown men should have to put on a show for them?

That's why they get used and tossed aside by men who are not "boring". They bring no value. They want entertainment. Shallow, vapid and useless is what they are. Can't talk about anything of substance either because they don't know sh!t about sh!t. Then wonder "where the good men are" and why no alpha male will propose to them. Unbelievable.

The great irony is THEY are the boring ones. This is why you do well by treating them like dirt. Is what they want, its what they deserve and its not "boring". :crackup:

 

[Blusher]

That's why they get used and tossed aside by men who are not "boring". They bring no value. They want entertainment. Shallow, vapid and useless is what they are. Can't talk about anything of substance either because they don't know sh!t about sh!t. Then wonder "where the good men are" and why no alpha male will propose to them. Unbelievable.

The great irony is THEY are the boring ones. This is why you do well by treating them like dirt. Is what they want, its what they deserve and its not "boring".

THEY... being, ALL women?
That's a huge generalization, I hope you realize the absurdity of your "reasoning" based on such indiscriminate hatred towards the whole of a gender. And your advice is : "treat them like dirt". Who the **** you think you are to recommend that peooplle be treted like dirt?? Are you deusional?

Clearly, you cannot stand them and make all sorts of rationnalization to justify your hoomosexual tendencies. Go see a therapist, really.

 

[Poon King]

THEY... being, ALL women?
That's a huge generalization, I hope you realize the absurdity of your "reasoning" based on such indiscriminate hatred towards the whole of a gender. And your advice is : "treat them like dirt". Who the **** you think you are to recommend that peooplle be treted like dirt?? Are you deusional?

Clearly, you cannot stand them and make all sorts of rationnalization to justify your hoomosexual tendencies. Go see a therapist, really.

Lashing out like a 12-year-old is how you react to someone who disagrees with you? Not very "alpha" lol.

If you have a counter argument to what I said.. then this is a good time to provide it. If you don't then you just look like an idiot.

Also.. why would a homosexual hate women? Are you saying the only thing to like about them is their vagina.. so if a man is not attracted to them he defaults to hating women?

I've never met a fag who hates women. You destroyed your own argument d!ck head.

 

[Pardner]

Lashing out like a 12-year-old is how you react to someone who disagrees with you? Not very "alpha" lol.

If you have a counter argument to what I said.. then this is a good time to provide it. If you don't then you just look like an idiot.

Also.. why would a homosexual hate women? Are you saying the only thing to like about them is their vagina.. so if a man is not attracted to them he defaults to hating women?

I've never met a fag who hates women. You destroyed your own argument d!ck head.

Go away PlayHer Man, we don't need your negativity & hostility back on the boards. I thought you said you were done posting here.