Players/Slags and Free Drinks

Gunner26

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Well the other day at a friends birthday we were chilling at her house for pre-drinks before hitting the club and I got into a discussion about player/slags and buying people drinks with some people.

A girl I know HB5 was talking with the only guy at the party I didn't know, so I went over and said hello. I don't know how, but we got on the topic of girls having it much easier than guys to pull on a night out. This girl tried to tell me that it wasn't, and that it was harder for girls, she even looked at the guy next to me for suport, and he nailed it, completly blew her off in favour of my argument, and elaborated on it by saying that 'if an avergae girl puts out she will get some, if an average guy puts out, people think he's a creep'

To my surprise the girl actually thought about it, then agreed with us, and we carried on talking.

Couple minutes later we get onto buying a girl a drink, and I said it's a policy of mine not to do it, unless it's the girls birthday and I know her personally. My reasons being that it has never worked before.

The guy next to me didn't agree, he claimed that it was ok to buy some girls a drink, if you know them, the HB5 on the other hand told me that it's the best way to get a girl back home. At this I laughed aloud and told her that most of the time, girls will use guys for a drink, then leave. To this the guy next to me agreed and once again helped me out, using the example of him buying a random girl a drink the night before and her just walking away. At this the HB5 claimed that 'not all girls are like that' to which I replied ' I know, but why take the risk, when you can just dance with them in the club and make-out without taking them to the bar?'. Her response was typically female, 'Because it's what a guy is supposed to do'. Again I laughed a bit and asked why. She said that's just how it is.

At this point, the guy, the HB5 and I had been talking a good 10-15 minutes. However some girls, who had seen the entire conversation, but not known what we were talking about decided that I was ****blocking the HB5 and called me over, when I asked why, they told me I was third-wheeling?!

Lo and behold, a minute after I've left, the HB5 and guy have seperated, the guy to find people he actually knew, and the HB5 to her ladyfriends sitting opposite me. What happened next is pretty interesting.

HB5 has a chat with the HB8 next to her, who has a word with another HB8 and so on until all the girls are in the loop. Then from across the room I get hit with a 'Why won't you buy a girl a drink then Gunner?'. I kinda saw it coming, and went with 'Why don't they buy me one?' with a cheeky smile before casually saying 'What has this girl done, besides being good looking, to deserve a drink off me?'. I have to say, the reactions were golden.

Some girls looked really perplexed, when they thought about that question, they had no answer. Others like the HB5 earlier, 'It's just what you do' and another girl, didn't even answer, instead she loftily proclaimed to the whole room 'And that is why you will stay a virgin' and I have to say I lost it there, I found it hysterical, the guys in the room were backing me up, but quietly, I was the centre of the female hostility to drinks. After I had finished laughing I said I was done being the spotlight of attention, and that if they didn't like it, it's just a virgin's opinion, I then saw off my drink and exited the room, to a high five with one of the guys.

So it was a pretty long read, and to be honest it wasn't neccessary, I just wanted to share.

Anyway, what do you guys make of the women and their reactions to me? And have you ever had this sort of conversation before, what were their reactions like?


TL.DR - Went out the other night, got into a convo about players/slags and buying girls drinks. Later on got called out by a room of girls for not buying girls drinks out. Countered with 'what have they done besides being good looking to deserve a drink off of me?'. Reactions varied from confused, to saying that this was the reason I'm still a virgin. Just wondering if you've ever had a situation liek this before and what the girls responses/reactions were.

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Haha that's pretty funny. I feel like guys buying girls drinks is a very typical and traditional courtesy, but I don't think it's going to help you at all when it comes to picking up girls. I'll buy drinks for my friends who are girls but no more than I do for my guy friends. I rarely buy drinks for girls I don't know, and if I ever do it's after I've talked to them for a bit and decided that they are actually a lot cooler than most of the girls I talk to. What I actually like to do - especially if a girl ASKS you to buy her a drink - is play Neil Strauss' five question game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_qdqHzw92o) which has won me a free drink every time I've ever used it on a girl. If I do this, however, I'll often buy the girl a drink later.

Also I think the response you got to your question about what girls have done to deserve a free drink was hilarious haha. I feel like "it's just what you do" translates to something along the lines of "uhhh fvck you made a valid point and I'm too stupid to think of anything to support my argument and too proud to admit that I was wrong".
 

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Haaa! I totally agree with your viewpoint on this - as a rule, I will not simply buy a girl a drink.

I remember I got called out on this once and actually flipped it on them by stating that I'm a feminist, and that men buying women drinks is exactly the sort of harmful throwback to the dark ages of sexism that is standing in the way of equal rights and... etc etc. The girl's reaction (she was a typical girl-power, new age hippie feminazi) was absolutely priceless - about 20 seconds of almost talking, then shutting up and buying herself a drink.

It's a shame they resorted to saying you're going to stay a virgin - I think I'd have gone with "Not EVERYONE has to pay for sex you know..." obviously implying that not only are you not playing their game, but that they're wh0res.
 

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Syrio, that game seems pretty damn fun, I'll have to give it a go next time I'm out with people, I am likewise with your interpretation of 'It's just what you do' haha.

And Rhythmic that is hilarious claiming to be a feminist, wish I could have seen the girls face. Quality idea, I may just be tempted to use that if I get called out in the future. And yes it is a bit of a shame they resorted to calling me a virign, but it doesn't bother me, if anything it reinforces my belief that I am right, and that just because they are good looking, doesn't mean they deserve a drink, especially if they are willing to call names over a little bit of fun. Again your idea for how to handle it is spot on.

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Anytime a girl asks me to buy her a drink...i say no way in h$ll i don't even know you. I did this to one girl one night and the self entitled b&tch and her friend started calling me names and stormed off.....pathetic....never buy a girl a drink unless you really know her.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You should have told all the guys out loud they will all get laid if they buy these ladies at the party a drink.

then watch the women change their tune.
 

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Lol at how pathethic the girls reaction was. Though I don't call girls on their bullsh!t much anymore. Because they will always have some bullsh!t to throw back at you even if it doesn't make sense.

I very rarely buy girls a drink unless I know them. But at least the girls here usually don't ask me to buy them a drink. Except for my friends which sometimes do it, but if I don't want to buy them a drink I just blow them off with "I don't have any money." Funny is if they see me later buying someone a drink.

I remember though that once a girl wanted me to buy her a drink to what I replyied with "Why don't you buy me a drink." With a smile. She said that the guy is supposed to buy drinks for girls. I think I took her dancing after it to shut her up about it, but I think that changing the subject would work aswell.
 

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Bumsniff your advice, like the other guys, would have been hilarious if I had though to say it, such a simple sentence as well haha.

Nobody Cares, I too am inclined to go with telling somebody I'm out of money, only to be found buying a drink later on in the night ha. Changing the subject may have been a good idea, but I was in a room full of people talking about it, and in the end it was a fun discussion, maybe if a random girl had told me I would have changed the subject.

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Great job, Gunner. They all dogpiled on you, but they still may have wanted to fvck.

Reminds me of a time when a group of 5 females I know all ganged up on me and said I "wasn't a real man" because I refuse to cook a woman dinner. I'm simply not a good cook. I didn't cave on the issue, and in the coming weeks, they all tried to make out with me.
 

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Thank you Mr Bond, to be honest I didn't really see myself as doing anything that well, just holding my ground haha.

Would be sweet if you're right and some of them have a go in the coming weeks, some of them were hot ha ;)

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Are you still a virgin ?


Anyway , firstly , the hb5 said that buying girls a drink is the way to take them home. Well , she's speaking from her POV.

She's an HB5. A five. How much attention do you think the five gets ? So hell yeah,she'll be glad to go home with the first guy to throw a shot her way. But when we talk about your average HB8+ , who gets showered with drinks every time she goes out by at least 5 different guys at any give time , what will she do ? Go home with each and every one of them ? No.


And as far as the crowd of girls go...ofcourse they'll be against you. First , because they like drinking for free , cuz who the hell doesnt ? And secondly , non-AFC guys are rare. How many of them do you think actually met a guy that was a DJ ? How many guys did NOT buy them a drink and also give them just enough attention /was cool enough to keep them chasing ?

I'm pretty sure that the answer is close to none , so they really have no experience to relate to. Only the theoretical idea of the guy that doesn't buy them a drink , which can be judged as cheap.


Anyway,buying a girl a drink right off the bat kills the approach of the DJ. A DJ is supposed to have women qualify themselves for him. See if THEY match HIS profile. Going all out and buying drinks for them for no reason is doing the exact opposite. "Hi , I'm obviously interested in you so I'm gonna pay for your attention.Please validate me."

A simple counter-example is with guys. If you go to a club , and score a ONS with some random chick that's slutting around , you won't really see her as relationship material.You won't want to keep her around. You just won't. You enjoyed the free fvck , but that's where it stops. There's no challenge.
Same goes for the drink. They enjoy it and move on to the next one.




You held your ground , so props on that. Hope my reply provided some insight.
Good story.
 

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Zion, Yeah I am still holding onto my V-Card, working on loosing it ha.

You're exactly right about the 5. She is a 5, and as such, on a night out at least, I wouldn't think about touching, and to be honest there still wouldn't be a chance of me buying her a drink.

The 8's and such again you are right, they get plenty of drinks anyway, so I'm not going to oblige them.

Girls qualifying themselves to me doesn't really happen to me on a night out, it's more I see the girl, we dance, we make-out, I don't think I've had a conversation with any girl I've ever made out with, maybe one.

I like the ONS example too, exactly right.

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Zion, Yeah I am still holding onto my V-Card, working on loosing it ha.

Appreciable honesty. You got some good control over your ego.


Girls qualifying themselves to me doesn't really happen to me on a night out, it's more I see the girl, we dance, we make-out, I don't think I've had a conversation with any girl I've ever made out with, maybe one.

Qualifying doesn't necessarily happen verbally.A lesser form of non-verbal qualification is when the girl grinds on you on the dance-floor or gets all up in your space in the club.She's 'presenting herself' to you , in a manner of speech.

Good luck with your VC. Try to not overdrink on nights out. The last thing you want is a naked girl and a wiskey d!ck. You'll hate yourself forever :yes:
 

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Zion, thank you. But bro I'm not fussed about it, it's ridiculous how open I am about it, it doesn't bother me at all. Obviously I don't go telling girls in the club this, but most of my mates know, if anything they call me too picky which is why I still have it, although I'm ok with that too ha.

I see what you mean about non-verbal, very interesting and now that you mention it, I can see that it has been happenng. On whiskey **** I get you completely and recently I have been cutting back a bit on alcohol on nights out, although the time I did come close back at a girls place, my johnson wasn't an issue.

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