percentage of guys 18-30 who actually have gfs ?

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its the funniest ****..

you think some guy is too ugly, too fat, dressed like a tart or whatever and then you see him with the hottest babe , its mind bogglying...though i m still a noob...

its like ANY GUY can get a hot looking girl....

i dont know if i m attractive but i see guy like me getting with super hot blonds all the time and i m here alone hehe

for this reason, even though you are there, its likely i think most guys are hooked up.. i'd like 75 %

your opinions ?
 

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my opinion is you are an AFC, wipe away your tears, lose your jealousy and hit the gym.
 

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The more important question to ask is, why do you suppose so many guys think they need a girlfriend in that age range?
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
The more important question to ask is, why do you suppose so many guys think they need a girlfriend in that age range?
Why not? Theres a mantra of "girlfriends are bad" on this forum. If this forum is truly about self-improvement, and not about getting as many chicks as you can, then I don't see why having a good healthy relationship is looked down upon.
 

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TheNewGuy said:
Why not? Theres a mantra of "girlfriends are bad" on this forum. If this forum is truly about self-improvement, and not about getting as many chicks as you can, then I don't see why having a good healthy relationship is looked down upon.
It's when a guy defines himself by whether or not he has a girlfriend which is disturbing.
 

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Stormbringer said:
...But those of us with a consistent lack of girlfriends and overall interaction with females end up defining ourselves by that at least to some extent. It is inevitable for those of us in that situation.
It's seldom good to define yourself by things you can't control. Basically, your livelihood is at its mercy.
 

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TheNewGuy said:
Why not? Theres a mantra of "girlfriends are bad" on this forum. If this forum is truly about self-improvement, and not about getting as many chicks as you can, then I don't see why having a good healthy relationship is looked down upon.
... especially by those that played the numbers game prior to their marriage.

"Which is better" (relationships with a great woman, vs massive numbers) is a trick question because there really is no correct answer. I think maybe its an unintentional casuality of this sosuave training to point at a LTR or a marriage and say/presume that it was a result of some kind of cop-out or insecurity. Its as if no one even considers the possibility that maybe its because the guy found a really special human being that he's enjoying spending his time with, is genuinely happy because of it, and doesn't want it to end any time soon (or ever, whichever the case may be).

I used to have a close friendship with the most DJ person Ive ever had known when I used to live in Mississippi. This guy was a good-looking cajun (with that accent) and had very sanguine qualities. He would say, "Azanon", quite frankly I sleep with a different girl every weekend, and sometimes different ones on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. He would say, its great and all, but you won't believe how chaotic my life can be sometimes. He told me stories of how some of them wouldn't just take (the f******) it, but instead would stalk him. And managing all of them eventually just became a major pain. And, of course, there's the always having to have "safe sex" (the sucky kind where you use a condom), and being worried about that going wrong and causing a pregnancy. He was specifically making the point that its not near as great as it sounds.

Anyway, he got to know my wife (and, yes, she found him charming too), and said to me, I like what I have but I envy your position just as much. He admitted to being emotionally empty inside and said he wished he could just come home to a sweet, and intelligent woman (like my wife) so that he could focus his time on other things instead. And no.. he wasn't banging my wife. :mad:

Bottom line, there's a lot of "grass is greener" mentality that goes along with this issue. Which is better? I'd say it just depends on several things, one of them not being your age. These things would include said woman, your maturity level, what you want in your life, whether you're still not sure what kind of woman you want (a rational reason to date different women), and so on. Some people, on the other hand, have no desire for a LTR of any kind ever in their life, and that's just fine too. Different strokes, different folks.
 

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Ah, I remember 17, all full of that Disney idealism and fed on a steady diet of "the ONE special someone for you is out there waiting" from the media.

But since you're here seeking wisdom I'll be straight with you; The mantra isn't "girlfriends are bad" (that's binary thinking), the mantra is premature monogamy limits opportunity and tends to lead to damaging life decisions. Plate Theory isn't about tapping as much ass as humanly possible (though that can be a by-product if you choose), it's about cultivating and maintaining options that you would otherwise be limited from in being monogamous before you've pursued the very ambitions that make you attractive to the opposite sex.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Ah, I remember 17, all full of that Disney idealism and fed on a steady diet of "the ONE special someone for you is out there waiting" from the media.
Does anyone that's posted so far believe in "that special someone" or what's more commonly referred to as a "soulmate"? I know I don't.

But that doesn't mean there aren't some highly valuable ones (plural) out there!

the mantra is premature monogamy limits opportunity and tends to lead to damaging life decisions.
If a monogamy is indeed "premature", then by definition, it was a mistake. I don't personally find very much wisdom in things that are understood by anyone armed with common sense.

Where the actual difficulty comes into play is determining what actually constitutes a premature monogamy and what isn't. For this, i probably don't have an "applies to all" answer. I'd probably need to hear a lot of case-specific information on both people, and then i'd just have an opinion.
 

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azanon said:
Does anyone that's posted so far believe in "that special someone" or what's more commonly referred to as a "soulmate"? I know I don't./QUOTE]

lol no. Now I've been in the game and understand the common mentality of people (especially women) in relationships, I don't think there is such thing as an eternal loving relationship. The best thing you can hope for (and which you should probably aim for) with this sort of thing is a life long friendship, or partnership. I don't think "love", however people define it, comes into the equation when we're looking at a long term relationship.
 

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Is that to say those of us with very limited experience with females can't control that?
If that is what it means to you personally. Something to consider is how you personally define value; both intrinsic and extrinsic. It all comes down to what works for you personally. Now ask yourself whether what you are doing is truly working for you.
 

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Once upon a time there were two old men talking about the places they lived and how each thought their homes were the best places to live. The first was born and raised in a remote town in rural Montana. He always spoke lovingly about his hometown and often boasted it was the most beautiful place in the world, though he'd never been more than a few miles beyond it's borders. He was proud to be from a small town and had lived there his entire life because it was genuinely a wonderful place to live. He often said it was the best place in the world to settle down in.

The second man was from the same town, but he left at 18 to join the Navy. In the course of his enlistment he'd traveled to Singapore, Australia, the Philippines, Guam, and many other countries in the asian pacific. Additionally he'd spent time at several Naval bases in San Diego, Hawaii and San Francisco. Later he traveled to Panama, through the canal and was stationed in Florida and South Carolina. After his time in the Navy, he went to a university in New York and later became an investment banker traveling to Britain, the Netherlands, France, Germany and Spain. In his 50's he was commissioned to be a US Ambassador to several countries in the middle east. In his travels he'd experienced the best and the worst of humanity. He'd been met with grace and hospitality as well as hate and hostility. Ultimately he'd decided to retire in New Zealand, because it was the most welcoming and beautiful country he'd traveled to in the course of his life - and proud, he too believed his home to be the best place in the world to settle down in.

Which of these two men's advice should a young man consider when it comes time for him to call a place his home?
 

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Friends are good. Money is good. Fame is good. Girlfriends can be good.

Defining yourself by any of those things is not good. And no, I doubt the actual statistic is 75%. Besides, many of the guys in LTRs have sacrificed their souls in order to obtain the girlfriend. They will regret it in 15 years when they get divorced and realize they have wasted their life.

Failure isn't being single. Failure is being in a bad relationship.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Once upon a time there were two old men talking about the places they lived and how each thought their homes were the best places to live. The first was born and raised in a remote town in rural Montana. He always spoke lovingly about his hometown and often boasted it was the most beautiful place in the world, though he'd never been more than a few miles beyond it's borders. He was proud to be from a small town and had lived there his entire life because it was genuinely a wonderful place to live. He often said it was the best place in the world to settle down in.

The second man was from the same town, but he left at 18 to join the Navy. In the course of his enlistment he'd traveled to Singapore, Australia, the Philippines, Guam, and many other countries in the asian pacific. Additionally he'd spent time at several Naval bases in San Diego, Hawaii and San Francisco. Later he traveled to Panama, through the canal and was stationed in Florida and South Carolina. After his time in the Navy, he went to a university in New York and later became an investment banker traveling to Britain, the Netherlands, France, Germany and Spain. In his 50's he was commissioned to be a US Ambassador to several countries in the middle east. In his travels he'd experienced the best and the worst of humanity. He'd been met with grace and hospitality as well as hate and hostility. Ultimately he'd decided to retire in New Zealand, because it was the most welcoming and beautiful country he'd traveled to in the course of his life - and proud, he too believed his home to be the best place in the world to settle down in.

Which of these two men's advice should a young man consider when it comes time for him to call a place his home?
Yes, but take the hypothetical example a step further and introduce the fact that the young man is happy in his current position, his current home. Who are either of these people to tell this man where he is supposed to be happier?
 
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