Once again, some other guy takes my target. Fck ths Sht...

[Lil Magic]

Sooooooo, tonight we had a dance after our cultural festival. There was a lot of girls there, i danced with most, but then this white girl who likes black guys comes in. I was trying to game her for a while and i was hoping tonight i could perhaps escalate a little. So we danced for quite a long long time, her grinding on me until both of us got tired and i figured it was my opportunity to isolate her. Anyway, so I take her by the had and lead her a couch in an attempt to kino escalate. We talk for a little while and i use the kiss close line
"Would you like to kiss me?" and she just wags her finger no, but i tried to play it off and asked "is that a wag no or a wag yes?" She smiles and says no. Anyway, so later on in the night as everyone starts to leave, I see here and another black guy sitting down in the exact same couch where I brought her and they are making out in front of my me and my friends, who also know i was trying to game this chick. So, we decide to leave...unfortunatley in my angry mode, i text her "I hope he kisses better than me." I dont expect to ever talk to her again but then I go on FB when i get back to my dorm and she asks if she should explain. I say whatever she wants to do. Anyway, so she goes on and talks about how hes just a friend and how he was drunk or watever, which personally, I think is a complete world of crapl because it doesn't seem like she was doing anything at all to stop him. AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so FVCKING SICK OF THE SAME SHT HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AND OVER. WTF???? Why does it always seem that everything is going oh so well and then something just has to come and fck it up????? Or some other guy has to get the girl? Fck this sht.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

We talk for a little while and i use the kiss close line
"Would you like to kiss me?

Why didn't you just go in for the kill? instead of asking? Where was you're backbone at this time dude? If you know she likes Black guys, why stress over spoilt milk?

Thats instant next. Its also subconciously disrespectful that you caught her kiss-closing the other guy, he gamed her, you didn't. Drunk? really? GTFOH! Thats the biggest human lie I've heard this Sunday morning. I don't even know why you txted her back or even needed explaining.

Personally would've plotted gaming her closest girlfriends and unbalancing that dorm man. Fight fire with fire.

 

[King Turi]

Shoulda just went for it mate.

You actin' like a little ***** should ensure you don't taste her punani any time soon too.

 

[dj_china]

well she's still talking to you

you know what to do next time =)

 

[Nutz]

Lets just say actions speak louder than words. And like the above said about that gambit, don't bother. Sure it may work for some guys here or there, but that kiss-close gambit of Mystery's may work for him, but you are no Mystery.

 

[nismo-4]

Lets just say actions speak louder than words. And like the above said about that gambit, don't bother. Sure it may work for some guys here or there, but that kiss-close gambit of Mystery's may work for him, but you are no Mystery.

He wasn't a mystery either! LMAO!

You shoulda just went for it instead of asking and your results would've been hella better. Don't you realize that alpha males just do it like Nike? And you wonder why the girl's with another dude instead of you. And that text about being a better kisser? Dude, you're giving her even more reason to stay away from you, as you wanted to prove your worth ex post facto.

Case closed.

 

[jophil28]

Anyway, so I take her by the had and lead her a couch in an attempt to kino escalate. We talk for a little while and i use the kiss close line
"Would you like to kiss me?" and she just wags her finger no...

...unfortunatley in my angry mode, i text her "I hope he kisses better than me."

You had her phone# and you had her grinding on you BEFORE she met that other guy, but he took her home !!

I don't know what to suggest except that you need to stop using weak lines from pasty white dudes.

 

[ENIGMA16]

My father is the biggest DJ I've ever known. He had a feeling that one of the waitresses at the restaurant we used to go to on a regular basis, was flirting with him. So one day he pulled her by the hair, and kissed her. Since then, they became a thing. She had a boyfriend and was 24 years old. He was 56 years old and NOT good looking. If he would have said "would you like to kiss me?" she would have said NO, and that would have been the end of it.

In the restaurant? Because that is one baller-ass move. Props to him.

 

[moneyisking]

With all due respect to Mystery and his success with women, "Would you like to kiss me" is the biggest crock of sh*t ever. It gives her a chance to say no. You should know if she wants to kiss you based on kino escalation and other IOIs.

My father is the biggest DJ I've ever known. He had a feeling that one of the waitresses at the restaurant we used to go to on a regular basis, was flirting with him. So one day he pulled her by the hair, and kissed her. Since then, they became a thing. She had a boyfriend and was 24 years old. He was 56 years old and NOT good looking. If he would have said "would you like to kiss me?" she would have said NO, and that would have been the end of it.

your dad is a bad azz to the bones bro. I would love to drink with him and hear world views and advices from him.

 

[zekko]

With all due respect to Mystery and his success with women, "Would you like to kiss me" is the biggest crock of sh*t ever.

That's a Mystery routine? Lol. I really need to check out his stuff sometime. "Would you like to kiss me?" doesn't sound like a kiss close, sounds more like a "close the chance to get a kiss" line to me.
Maybe Mystery was so sure of himself that he knew the girl would want to kiss him, but still, seems like a really bad line. Just kiss her.

 

[Lexington]

NEVER ask a girl permission. She may say no, but once your lips lock and all the emotions, sensations etc. kick in, she won't be able to resist.

There's one girl that I was hooking up with. She kept pretending to be a goodie two shoes. She said she was a good Christian girl etc. But when I kissed her, she stuck HER tongue into my mouth. I was just going for gentle peck on the lips, but it turned out to be a very sloppy makeout session. Needless to say, I ended up getting on top of her that night.

Think about it like this. It's easy to say you don't want to have that nice chocolate cake with the really delicious icing on it. But what about when it's right in your face? Or what about when you actually taste it? Isn't it a lot harder to resist?

 

[Desdinova]

Everyone here is razzing on you for memorizing and following something you read in "The Game". While asking permission for a kiss is generally a bad idea, that's not what the dealbreaker was...

Anyway, so later on in the night as everyone starts to leave, I see here and another black guy sitting down in the exact same couch where I brought her and they are making out in front of my me and my friends, who also know i was trying to game this chick.

This is when you realize that you have direct competition. Now, here's the wrong thing to do:

in my angry mode, i text her "I hope he kisses better than me."

You let your jealousy get the best of you and let it fvck things up for you. Competition is no reason to get insecure and quit on a woman you're gaming. You need to remember that 90% of the male population are AFCs. Use that knowledge to your advantage. Here's what you do:

Go up to her (while she's with the other dude) and say, "Well, I'm heading out, but I'll definately call you later in the week!" Now, let the other dude show HIS insecurity and let it fvck things up for himself. He'll be probing her for information about who you are and what business you have with her. But you kept your confidence, your cool, and didn't let the guy screw up your game. Contact the woman in a day or two and invite her out on a date.

I am so FVCKING SICK OF THE SAME SHT HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AND OVER. WTF???? Why does it always seem that everything is going oh so well and then something just has to come and fck it up????? Or some other guy has to get the girl? Fck this sht.

Again, you're the one who's letting it fvck things up for you. Don't get discouraged by the competition, just play the game better than him.

 

[Solomon]

ayee

NEVER ask a girl permission. She may say no, but once your lips lock and all the emotions, sensations etc. kick in, she won't be able to resist.

Cha-ching don't need to say nothing further

You had her phone# and you had her grinding on you BEFORE she met that other guy, but he took her home !!

I don't know what to suggest except that you need to stop using weak lines from pasty white dudes.

and LOL

@LM--"on to the next" to many ladies out there to worry about a skeezo, brother, you in college just hit up the next party my dude

peace

 

[Nexus Polaris]

I think Desdinova already said most of what I was going to say. In fact, I think he probably gave you better advice than I would have given you.

From what you've posted, though, I think I can probably piece together why it happened like it did. There's a fair amount of DLV behavior in your post.

I'm with everybody who says asking for a kiss is always bad form. Even if guys like Mystery promote this as a good idea. I'm sure there are ways to make this work, but it just seems like an unnecessary obstacle you're throwing up in front of yourself to me. When you get good at reading body language, you won't need to ask things like this. You'll know when she won't push you away. And if she does, play it off like it's no big deal. Tease her about it even.

I'd say something like, "Oh please! Don't act like you don't want to kiss me. I know that look. That's the same look my dog gives me right before he licks my face. ......hey wait a minute, you don't have dog breath do you? You might have just done me a favor."

So she laughs and her interest level goes up. Chicks love to laugh. If you're not naturally smooth, I recommend humor. It's a powerful tool of seduction. It's worked wonders for me.

Another bad move, as was pointed out, was the "I hope he kisses better than me" text. Major AFC move. You basically just told her that your whole night hinged on her approval of you. Which lowered your value considerably. Desdinova's advice here was probably the best way to handle that situation.

Most important of all, your attitude seems to reek of desparation. I know that it sucks when you're making all this effort and you're not able to close the deal, but your mindset is still focused on the outcome rather than the interaction. And as a result of that, it's causing you to get frustrated when you don't get what you want and it's likely putting out a desperate vibe when you're in field that you're probably not aware of. I used to have the exact same problem. You have to literally stop caring about whether or not you close and just enjoy the interaction. This makes you come across as relaxed, easy going, and confident which are all much more attractive to women than someone trying too hard to be suave.

Instead of worrying about whether or not she will like you enough to give you sex, you have to flip the script. It should never be considered a given that any woman is worthy of sex with you. I don't care if she's a 25 on a scale of 1-10. When you've already decided that you definitely want to have sex with her, you're going to keep putting yourself in qualifying situations that express DLV.

Your desire to fück her should never be a given. It should always be conditional, regardless of how hot she is. I always make a point to operate with the mentality of, "Man, she's beautiful. I really hope she doesn't do something stupid and make me not want to fück her anymore."

As a result, I maintain control over my mental state and don't fall prey to chumpy behavior. So the minute she does something dumb, I can tease her about it. And the minute she does something bîtchy or bratty that I consider over the line, she's ruined her chance to fück me and I'm on to the next one.

 

[Jitterbug]

PUAs like Tyler Durden have written a lot about this, I believe.

Essentially, you got her in the mood and failed to capitalize, so someone else swooped in and found it easy to escalate from there as she was already in the mood.

Keep your eyes open at parties, you'll see a lot of situations like that. Eventually you'll learn to be the opportunistic guy and not the sucker who did all the hard work of warming up a chick.

 

[The Message Boy]

I know DAMN WELL you are not using some Mystery Method **** instead of just following through with your own gut and thoughts? Are you a MAN or some sheep-like idiot that follows random "Gurus" off the internet?

Lil Magic says,

Sooooooo, tonight we had a dance after our cultural festival. There was a lot of girls there, i danced with most, but then this white girl who likes black guys comes in.

STOP. You didn't dance with most, because this post isn't about how you were the man that night, it's about some random chick you are STUCK ON. Why are you lying?

Lil Magic says,

I was trying to game her for a while and i was hoping tonight i could perhaps escalate a little. So we danced for quite a long long time, her grinding on me until both of us got tired and i figured it was my opportunity to isolate her. Anyway, so I take her by the had and lead her a couch in an attempt to kino escalate. We talk for a little while and i use the kiss close line
"Would you like to kiss me?" and she just wags her finger no, but i tried to play it off and asked "is that a wag no or a wag yes?" She smiles and says no.

That's stupid. SHE'S GRINDING ON YOU DUDE, just god damn kiss her! You are going to use some "tips" you got off the internet? WTF is wrong with you.

And for the record, nobody TOOK your target because you never HAD HER. She was dancing with you just like she probably danced with alot of guys that night.

Take this as a learning experience:

1.) STOP listening to "Gurus"

2.) Develop your OWN STYLE, be your own man. Don't let some "Guru" tell you what you ought to be doing and thinking. Newsflash, they get rejected TOO!

3.) When you want something go GET IT, if you don't get when you want it LEARN to come up with a different way to get what you want. But DON'T ASK FOR IT.

 

[Lil Magic]

TO: THE MESSAGE BOY

I may lack game, I may follows "Gurus" who give bad advice, and I may not have too much confindence at times, but I DONT LIE. I SAID I DANCE WITH MOST THE GIRLS AND I DID AND DONT U EVER QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IM LYING, CUZ IM NOT. PERIOD.