*OFFICIAL* December 2011 Bootcamp - Week 2

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DJ Boot Camp - Week #2

Theme: Initiating Conversations With Strangers
Number of reading articles: 8
Number of music picks: 7
Number of exercises: 1
Response thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35202

Introduction to week 2
Recruits, congratulations on finishing the first week!

By looking at the many posts to the thread, I can tell that this has been one hell of a power-packed week for many of you… and this is only the beginning!

Just like in a military boot camp, we’re going to maintain this high intensity atmosphere until we melt the AFC out of us, and become the DJ that’s just burning to get out.

Purpose of this lesson: So, now that you’ve practiced establishing eye contact, and have got more comfortable saying Hi to strangers, this week’s lesson takes us into the next phase – starting a conversation with a stranger!

For many people, this is the second most difficult step, right after dealing with rejections. So if you persevere through this week, you will have attained an unbelievable skill… one that will serve not only in meeting women, but in all aspects of your life.
Reading Material


Article 1 - This conversation stuff really works! (by meathead)

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16209


Article 2 - How to be a better conversationalist (by Poet)

A few quick tips on initiating and maintaining a conversation. Geared more towards a girl you are interested in, but can easily be modified to work on any person.

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16664


Article 3 - Pimpology 101: The Conversation - Part I (by Pimpologist)

Here’s a basic outline for approaching someone, initiating conversation, and establishing rapport.

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16646


Article 4 - Pimpology 101: The Conversation - Part II (by Pimpologist)

The second part from Pimpologist.

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16382


Article 5 - Pimpology 101: The Conversation - Part III (by Pimpologist)

Final instalment.

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16383


Article 6 - Pimpolgy 101: Connecting Through Understanding and Relating –
Part I (by Pimpologist)


An excellent post on having a fun and interesting conversation with anyone… a conversation that the person will really appreciate and enjoy.

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16621


Article 7 - Guide to Listening (by Sociopath31)

What differentiates a rambler from a good conversationalist is the ability to be a good listener. This is a skill that very few people have, but which everyone appreciates. Here are some tips to becoming a better listener.

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15740


Article 8 - Fine tune your sense of humour (by JuanWannabe)

Let’s face it, a sense of humour is a Godsend. People want to be around people that can make them laugh. Now you’ll learn how to get your humorous and fun side out of the closet, and make the world a better place!

Source: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16636


Music Picks

So Much to Say - Dave Matthews Band

Fascinating New Things - Semisonic

She Talk to Angels - Black Crowes

What Would You Say - Dave Matthews Band

Standing Outside the Fire - Garth Brooks

Hey Baby - No Doubt

I Believe In Miracles - Hot Chocolate


Exercises

All right, so you’ve read the posts above, and you know have an understanding of how to approach people and start a conversation. Now, it’s time to do it!

Your mission is to go out and have short conversations (2 – 10 minute each in length) with 10 strangers. You can talk to them about anything, and you can talk to any person whom you have never spoken to before. You’ll find that it might feel a little awkward in the beginning to talk to strangers for any length of time… but after the first couple of times you’ll find that it’s actually a wonderful feeling. You’ll really get a rush out of this.

Also, keep in mind that most people want to meet other people and have conversations with them, but are just too shy or insecure. So in fact, you will be doing a huge favour to those people whom you decide to hold a conversation with. Plus, I’ll bet you’ll learn new things from them, and maybe even make a couple of new friends. And in this phase of the Boot Camp, don’t let yourself feel limited to speaking to only girls… speak with anyone you want!

In fact, if you’re a bit apprehensive about talking to people, you can start out with those people who are easier for you to approach. For me, this is senior citizens, since I’ve found that most of them love talking with anyone who would give them half an ear, and I’ve found them to be very interesting conversationalists.

After each conversation, write down in your journal what you thought of the conversation, and approximately the length of the conversation (estimate if you don’t have a watch). Once you complete this lesson, post your results, plus the topic of your most interesting conversation, and anything else you wish to share.

You have until this time next week to complete this lesson. Also, make sure you keep on practicing the skills learned in the first lesson (e.g., you can practice establishing eye contact with someone, saying Hi, and going into a conversation. However, initial eye contact or a Hi is not a requirement before initiating a conversation).

Also, a tip that might help you with this lesson, and the next few lessons, is the 3-second rule (You can find it on ASF). What this means is that when you find someone you might be interested in approaching, don't give yourself more than 3 seconds from the moment you are able, to approach them. Anything longer than 3 seconds highly increases the chance that your nerves will work against you, and that you'll chicken out. Even if you have nothing planned to discuss with them, you'll find that you'll amazingly have something to say if you can only force your feet to propel you to the person.

ASF: alt.seduction.fast
A newsgroup containing similar articles for picking up and making friends with women.
Resource: www.fastseduction.com

Good luck recruits, we are kicking ass!
 

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Cool, let's stick to the format of Week 1 and post our responses and updates on this thread.


Well...technically I've done some of the exercise without realising it! I spoke to a 7.5 out of 10 girl working at a coffee shop.
Today I went for some coffee with people from my university tutor group. We were waiting in line to order and I was telling this girl in the tutor group (a UG 4 out of 10...anorexic skinny, no tits, no ass, big hook nose like a witch and small in-set eyes ) about how caffeine makes me go crazy and hyper, especially a black coffee with 3 brown sugars in it.

A girl working at the counter (7.5 out of 10, cute face, big tits, big bright eyes) overheard me, smiled and said "Nice haha, do you want a black coffee then?" and I said "Nah, I'm feeling like having a capuccino today". I ordered my capuccino and while I was waiting for my coffee I started talking to the 7.5 girl working there (at this point I politely excuse myself from the UG4 that I knew already and pretty much ignore her LOL) about the coffee shop because it was newly opened and was a bit 'hipster' in the design and decoration...old candles, chandeliers, an old bicycle hanging on the wall as a decoration, a vintage camera (the old ones from the 1920s where the guy taking a picture had to put a cloth hood over himself to look in the lens and take the picture). It was a small business and not a big corporation coffee shop like starbucks (lol, so hipster and 'alternative' haha). Got more small talk like how long she's been working there, if she's doing it part time as a student (she's full time incidentally)... Since I'm such a n00b I don't know how to escalate so I didn't get the chance to escalate enough for a number close LOL.

1 down, 9 more to go lol. And just like Week 1, I'm not counting conversations with guys because talking to dudes is well within my comfort zone but talking to girls is not.

For those having difficulty finding people to talk to...just practice on hired guns like coffee shop workers, waitresses etc.
 
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Hey guys, I knocked 4 conversations out so far today because I had the day off (and I have wednesday off too).

A quick summary:

Conversation #1-

I went to subway for lunch and in front of me there was this mom with a baby is some kind of portable craddle. As soon as I got in line I immediately said "cute kid". She told me the baby was two weeks old and we started talking about if it cried a lot and kept her up. One of the people behind the counter started chiming in about their baby too (I'm only counting this as 1because I wasn't really talking to the counter person much).

Conversation 2 and 3:

Went to a coffee shop and outside of the coffee shop there was a guy smoking a cigarette. He said hello so I could tell he was friendly, and I asked him for directions to a best buy because I was doing some xmas shopping. After he told me how to get there I was telling him how I was going to go get some electronics for my family and we talked about the iPad 2 and their accessories.

Once I went inside, it turned out that the guy I was talking to is also the owner of the shop. I ordered my coffee from him and as I was waiting a women (around 40) stood in line behind me. I started joking around about how it was nice that I had the day off to go xmas shopping, and how friendly people are during the day when they aren't working.

The coffee shop owner came back and I sort of roped him into our conversation, and talked about how it was great that I didn't need to sit in a ton of traffic like I usually do with my morning commute.

Conversation 4:

Went to a best buy and bought some iPad accessories. As I was at the counter I started talking to one women but the convo didn't last more than 2 minutes so I didn't count her.

There was another women however and I was saying that although I was buying an accesory I wouldn't buy one for myself because I wouldn't know what to do with it. I told her I would only use it a lot if I was traveling a lot and I wasn't yet. She told me I was a sweet guy or something since I was buying such expensive stuff for my family.


Anyways, off to a good start. I actually saw a couple of hot hired guns in the mall today and I was going to approach but I saw that this is next week's mission so I figured save that a little bit towards the end of the week to get ready.

Also, as a side note, I weighed myself this morning. I've lost 5.6 pounds in the past 3 weeks since I downloaded a calorie counter on my phone, and I had a phone interview this morning for a job which is offering a significant amount more money than what I'm making now. I'm feeling great because it looks like I'm starting to see the fruits of my efforts!
 

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My failed experience last night was a huge reminder to myself not to let others hold me back.

I went out drinking with a friend...he's one of my best buddies, but the guy is a total AFC suffering from a severe oneitis and he's not very extrovert (he really could use sosuave LOL). I love the guy to bits but he had a real negative vibe. Everytime we would see an HB he would comment on how hot she was, how he would f*ck her... then he'd self-doubt, then tell me that it would be rude/awkward/embarrassing/not socially acceptable to approach them and talk to them (how many here have been in this situation LOL). So here I am trying to psych myself up to talk to some HB8s and I have someone with a negative vibe convince me how it wasn't appropriate.

So people...if you're doing this bootcamp stuff, either do it by yourself, do it with someone who is a fellow Don Juan Bootcamper OR do it with someone who is willing to go up and talk to people. We all have buddies whom we're close to, but they're negative. Sometimes when they are holding us back we can't go approaching girls with them because we don't want to stay in AFC land. Sure...hang out and do other stuff with them, but when it comes to HBs, don't include them in your approaches.
 

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Okay I'm up to 7. A quick note, I know that this isn't technically a rule for this week's excersizes but my rule of thumb for this has always been (for myself) to not count people who work at the stores/places you are going to because they have to talk to you, but for this week I am counting it if and only if the person is a hot hired gun. So for example if I have a convo with some dude who is a cashier that doesn't count, but if its a hottie and I'm talking to her about stuff I'll count it as I imagine I'll end up trying to get hired guns eventually.


Conversation 5:

Last night I went to this bar with one of my co workers and her two friends. One of the two friends was kinda hot and I've never met her before, the other was some dude (complete afc/dork).

One thing I noticed was that my body language is now very good. I had a position against the wall and my entire group was talking around me trying to keep my attention. I didn't even have to say much, in fact I said little but when I spoke everyone was silent so I can tell my body language is doing better.

At one point I went up to grab a drink and I saw this dude and this girl he was with drinking. I started asking them why the heck it was so packed for a Tuesday. The guy and the girl had no idea because they were from NY. They started to wish me luck with the girl I was talking to, and eventually they bought me a drink. When I went back to my friends they thought I was cool, and the hot chick I was with asked me to see if I could "rub some of my coolness on her" so I started stroking her arm (kino).


Conversation 6:

I walked into a store to buy alcohol and I saw a smoking hot hb9 behind the counter working (no joke this chick was gorgeous). I had my shades on (new haircut as well), and walked in with confidence. I immediately shot her a smile and she smiled back. I then went up to her and asked her if she knew a lot about wine at all. She didn't and told me to wait for the manager, and then I started talking to her about absyinth which she had never heard about.

One thing I'd like to point out about this conversation is that right off the bat, before I opened my mouth, I got this look from her which came off as an IOI. As soon as I started dancing around the fact that I was only talking to her since I thought she was hot (aka about wine I didn't care about) I felt like she became less interested.

The takeaway- I think for really hot hb's I've got to be more b*llsy than other people. If I went straight up to her and went direct I think I would have done better.


Conversation 7:

In the same package store I saw some guy looking around for something, and asked him what kind of wine he thought I should buy as a gift for relatives. He started explaining to me the difference in tastes, how wines from different countries taste, etc. Was kind of interesting actually.
 

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The takeaway- I think for really hot hb's I've got to be more b*llsy than other people. If I went straight up to her and went direct I think I would have done better.
Totally agree, 8s 9s and 10s should be approached completely different than say 7s. I don't have enough experience to tell you how to approach them differently, but I'm excited to find out.
 

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Honestly guys, I'm struggling with this.

So far, I've spoken to 5 girls, all hired guns.

I've tried approaching girls who aren't hired guns in supermarkets and they all seem to blow me off by saying "sorry I'm really busy, bye". HBs, UGs, thin girls, fat girls, old women, young women.

Of course, when something keeps happening repeatedly it's likely that it has something to do with my approach. I'm gonna have to focus on the DJ Bible articles and really see where I can improve.
 

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Hey man, there are 2 things I've noticed about this so far. Number one, some people just don't feel like talking no matter what. Has nothing to do with you, could be the weather, maybe they're workaholics and don't have a second to spare, could be anything.

The second thing is that I find that when I'm talking about something in the environment or something relevant to the situation you're both in its easier. So for example if you're in line at a grocery store, talking about xmas shopping works. Or if you see something on their shirt comment about it. Just stay relevant.
 

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True. You might want to try places with a more relaxed vibe around it like the gym. I talked to this girl and another dude at the gym. Basically they told me their whole life story after I asked 'Do you come regularly?'
 

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Alright guys, so It seems like there are a select few that are left:
Flint - JonJaper - Konada and myself.

This is where we all need to be really strong and support each other!
Tomorrow I get off of school at, well sh1t, 10:00 am or something - awesome!
After school I'm going to head down to the mall and get some convos in, then do some volunteer work, and then try and convince my dad to let me go to a dance party/club thing - and if not chill at my friends house with 2 chicks.

Wish me luck, and stay strong!
 

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Make my count to 3!

Talked to the receptionist at the gym today, haven't seen her recently but today she was on duty so I went over and talked to her while signing in. I feel I tend to favor situational openers since it doesn't give off the I'm hitting on you vibe. I noticed the gym today was particularly empty and made a comment, 'Wow it isn't usually this empty at this time of the day.' she laughed and said something abou christmas shopping and then the rest was history :). Very little social anxiety today!
 

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Konada said:
Make my count to 3!

Talked to the receptionist at the gym today, haven't seen her recently but today she was on duty so I went over and talked to her while signing in. I feel I tend to favor situational openers since it doesn't give off the I'm hitting on you vibe. I noticed the gym today was particularly empty and made a comment, 'Wow it isn't usually this empty at this time of the day.' she laughed and said something abou christmas shopping and then the rest was history :). Very little social anxiety today!
Yeah I guess situational openers are key here, they're more natural anyway. They probably work much better than opinion openers or any other ones.


Edit: Since I am a bit of a conversation n00b and an escalation n00b, I'm gonna do some extra reading and try to nail this. I'm gonna go back to basics here and read the relevant articles about mindset, conversation and escalation from the main sosuave site: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/default.htm and the quick tips section http://www.sosuave.com/quick/default.htm. It might be a long long list and I might fall back on bootcamp progress but it will help me in the long run. This is a transformational process and is gonna take a while, Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
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AlexLefty said:
Alright guys, so It seems like there are a select few that are left:
Flint - JonJaper - Konada and myself.

This is where we all need to be really strong and support each other!
Tomorrow I get off of school at, well sh1t, 10:00 am or something - awesome!
After school I'm going to head down to the mall and get some convos in, then do some volunteer work, and then try and convince my dad to let me go to a dance party/club thing - and if not chill at my friends house with 2 chicks.

Wish me luck, and stay strong!
Well let's not jump the gun so soon.

I got 2 down, although I'm a bit disappointed that I missed a few opportunities but I know it's actually a good thing since it will fuel me in the future.

Convo 1:
Talk to an older lady that was in the store next to where I worked for about 5 minutes or so. I could tell she must have been a lot more attractive while she was younger by the way she looked now, but either way she was still somewhat attractive. She was looking to buy somethings at the gnc and looked a bit tired so when we got close enough while standing next to her side I commented that she looked a bit tired today. She agreed and said she was pretty worn out from work. I asked her why and she said it was so busy at work and found out she started at 4am. We started talking a bit more and I found out she worked at american airlines doing scheduling which was pretty tedious especially during the holidays. We talked a bit more and I told her I had to go as I felt the conversation dying out as I wasn't too sure what else I wanted to talk about or where to lead it, but nonetheless she looked happy that we talked as I said bye. Thinking about it now I should have introduced myself at that time.

Convo 2:
Went to the gym on Wednesday and talked with a guy around my age. Since we were playing basketball we began to talk about the NBA and the recent drama that was going about for about 10 minutes, maybe longer. We both really wanted to see Chris Paul and Dwight Howard with the lakers and Kobe.

Missed out on some openings. I saw another older lady, probably 25 years or so older than me, but she was still pretty attractive. I could kind of tell she wouldn't mind being talked to as she was just on her phone while on a machine looking up occasionally. This is where I should have remembered the 3 sec rule as I began to disregard what I initially thought and began to think that she was too busy working out or that she wouldn't really want to talk to me or I to her because of the obvious age difference or that she might be married and her husband might walk in then. This was pretty silly thinking as I see now, but whatever, it just fuels the fire to talk to more people.

Will try to find some convos later tonight and if I don't I'll have to book it at the mall when I go on saturday.
 

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Conversation 8:

Last night went to this bar with my old college buddies who happened to be in the area. When my old roomate and I went to the bar there was no space for me to get in so I could order my drink, so I politely asked this guy in a suit if he would move over, and then I said "I come here so much I should get reserved parking".

We then started talking about the bar we were at, what nights it was busy, and the quality of the beer selection that was available.

Conversation 9 (15 minutes ago):

I walked into one of my favorite coffee shops (the girls that all work there are f*ing hot). Before I even walked in I saw one of the two girls who were working and we made eye contact for a split second. As soon as I walked through the door I could see her whispering something to the other girl working after she looked at me and they both laughed. I took it as they were laughing on something about me.

I then went to the counter and ordered an ice coffee. The girl who I think laughed at me took the order and went to tell the other girl my order in the back room, and I could distinctly hear the other girl go "Who orders ice coffee in the winter" like I was a wierdo or something.

I felt a little uncomfortable, but I held my head high and kept my body language/composure. Since I felt uncomfortable, I made it a point to get a convo out of this hired gun because I realize that if I want to get good at this I'll need to deal with uncomfortable situations.

When she came back I asked her whether the place was usually busy on Fridays, she said no. I saw an electronic drumset in the corner and asked her if they had live music, and what types. She rambled for a minute and so I said "Wait, no Metallica?" being sarcastic since it was a quiet coffee place, she laughed.

One thing I noticed that was interesting was that even though she had finished making my coffee, rather than just giving it to sort of mark the end of the convo, she held onto it on the far side of the counter, so I must have at least been entertaining.

She then told me about this one band which was pretty good. At this point, when it looked like she started enjoying the convo, I grabbed the coffee, put down my 2 dollars, and said "Well good, at least you're not always bored" and then I waved and walked out.

That's what you get for trying to make me look like a fool....B*tch.



Anyways, I've got 1 more convo guys and then I'll be on week 3. Should have it by tomorrow. Keep your heads up guys!
 

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Well I've had meaningless conversations with strangers but everytime I see a cute girl I make sure to conversate them and get the number

Girl Number 1

Cashier from Polo Store.

AJ: So what kind of discounts do you get here?
Girl: We get 50% off 4x a month on top of the other discounts.
AJ: That sounds good, you might be useful to me.
Girl: Maybe.
AJ: So where are you from?
Girl: "Tells me where shes from"
AJ: Well I'm from *place* because I am in grad school up there. I just graduated undergrad. So how about you write your number down and we will hook up some time.
Girl: Why so you can use me for my discounts?
AJ: I can benefit you too
Girl: Where do you work at?
AJ: Don't worry about it, I'm about to go so hurry up and write your number down.
Girl: OK, *Writes number down*

I texted her later that day now she stays blowin up my phone. To be honest I just want the discount because this girl was brown skin and I prefer light skinned girls.

I got two other long conversations with some light skinned girls with number closes. (One working at Aero and one girl in my Masters program) I will probably post them later if I feel like typing.

I know I have over 10 for this week thanks to the nature of my job. (Assisting multiple customers). I will approach any cute girl I see though with no hesitation. This used to be one of my weaknesses. (Id have to be feeling a certain way too approach.) But now I will approach without even thinking about it.
 

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That's what you get for trying to make me look like a fool....B*tch.
Sexy, Suave, Amazing! Make sure to not completely disregard this girl in the future because it seems like you may have created some attraction, especially when you walked away. You should try her during week 3.

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I will approach any cute girl I see though with no hesitation. This used to be one of my weaknesses. (Id have to be feeling a certain way too approach.) But now I will approach without even thinking about it.
Props to you bro. I think that this is the number 1 problem that most men have, simply approaching. Thing is, most men don't realize that if they simply got up the courage to say SOMETHING they'd have a better chance with the girl than they probably realize. I'm getting to the point where I can approach MOST people with no problem. Actually, I can approach anyone without ANY problem, except for 9's and 10's sometimes. So how did you finally get yourself to come to the point where you can approach ANYONE at anytime? Job, mental training, etc.?


Ok, today has taught me a lot. Mostly that talking to strangers is SO EASY if you just grow some balls, and that my random conversation skills need a serious tune up! Talking to people was easy, but I found it difficult to stretch the conversation past 3-4 minutes or so. The reason for this, I believe, is simply because i WAS trying to STRETCH the conversation. I need to be more relaxed and natural and stop trying to say things to KEEP the conversation GOING and I need to stop unconsciousnessly trying to IMPRESS, for lack of a better word, the other person. This really hit me when I was talking to the last person i talked to today and he was kind of a nerd, and I was completely find saying whatever I wanted to him. I need to be like that to everyone.

Anyways, I got Six conversations in today.

At the beginning, I was riding around on trax (the train) and was looking for convos, and I found none. Then I went to the local museum because I figured it would be easy to get some in there. However, I was literally the only one in there. Then I decided to go down to the childrens museum for a few hours and volunteer. Anyways, read on...

1) I honestly can't remember any details about this first conversation, but I remember that I counted 1 for two people because each of the conversations were about 1 min and 30 secs, i guess. This convos happened while I was on trax on the way to the childrens museum. I know this is cheating, but I'm honestly not worried because I'll be able to go over the 10 mark.

2)
I got this one with a guy while I was volunteering. He was playing with the lego set or whatever and I sat down across from him and said "yeah I have more fun with these than the kids do sometimes", the conversation then ensued from there, talking about where he's from, work, school, etc.

3) This one also happened at the children's museum. I started talking to this older women and I'm not really sure how it started, but I think it was something about the weather. It was really flowing good in the first 3-4 mins or so, and then started to drop off. Good practice anyways.

4) This conversation happened on the trax on my way home from the children's museum. I made good eye contact with this asian chick and asked her if I could use her phone. A pretty good convo then ensued about school, weather, etc. Not bad, could have been way better though. It just didn't have good enough flow, and didn't have a very good vibe. Still good though.

5) This conversation was started on the same train after the asian chick got off the train. I asked this older couple who was also sitting next to me if I could use THEIR phone (asian chick was on her way to get hers). After I got off the phone I said "hey did you see me talking to that girl a second ago? I think she liked me ;o" I said this because I heard them chuckling etc. when I was talking to her. They were really friendly and we had some good laughs and then we started talking a little bit about college etc.

6) This one happened after I got off the trax and was waiting at the station to transfer to another train. As I was standing outside I made a comment to a guy (the nerd guy) about how cold it is. We then talked for about 2 min about where we lived, the weather etc. Then the train came and we both got on it but sat in different spots. After like 5 mins I was like fvck this and yelled down the train "hey bro, in the brown, you should come sit over here", he came over and we continued our convo for like 3-4 more mins, talking about video games n college. Good sh1t

There's my story guys. Some of you need to step it up though! You'll need to get like 9 tomorrow!!! But you can do it! Let's go!

Also,
When does week 2 end, Saturday or Sunday?

Come on guys, lets do this.

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Konada

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Looks like I won't be getting past week 2 anytime soon.

Was waiting for my friends to watch a movie so I sat down waiting for em. Beside me was this dude who seemed to be waiting for someone also. He looked tired so I commented 'You look tired dude, rough day?' I don't what the fvck is wrong with this dude but he just stared at me and resumed nitpicking at his phone. Anti social much?

Met another lady while waiting for the train. I was going for a warm approach because it would be creepy if I just talked to her (i couldn't find any situational openers and she wasn't even a 6) but she was glued to her phone (no suprise) so no eye contact and I left it at that.

Met a new neighbour in the lift. Smiled at him he gave me the bert stare.

Later on a 2 set came into the lift. One of em was a chick that blew me off last week so I didn't have any intention of acknowledging her presence. Her friend was at least a 7 though.

Rough day guys, my society seems more cold than other places like the US or even London.
 

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Hey guys. I'll post the articles for week 3 tomorrow but you have until first thing Monday to complete. Obviously if you want to just be a week behind than just give up we'd all rather see that, especially as weeks 3 and 4 are two of the hardest weeks.
 

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flint said:
Hey guys. I'll post the articles for week 3 tomorrow but you have until first thing Monday to complete. Obviously if you want to just be a week behind than just give up we'd all rather see that, especially as weeks 3 and 4 are two of the hardest weeks.
Awesome. I always thought week 3 was the one where we tried to get rejections.

Konada said:
Looks like I won't be getting past week 2 anytime soon.
This is the wrong attitude. You have to keep your head up! The game always throws obstacles in your way, but you have to have the right attitude and you have to persevere through them because if you do, the good things will come.

A resent example of this is like 2 weeks ago. My friend was having a big party, but I had to be home at 10 :(, then I was going to sneak out and chill with this girl but she blew me off :(, then I was going to sneak out with this other girl (my x) but she blew me off too :(. These three things happened in about 2 hours. Usually 1 or even 2 events is not enough to phase me, but these three combined really got me down, and I didn't even want to go to my jr. prom in the morning. But I decided that I needed to keep my head up and have a positive attitude. This positive attitude rewarded me because the next day I hooked up with my jr. prom date. Also - because of my attitude - I continued talking to the girl who blew me off (not my x, the other one) and 2 days later I ended up hooking up with her and her sister in the same night. Get it? You need to keep a positive attitude and you need to keep putting yourself out there because trust me, you will be rewarded for your perseverance.

It is possible for you to finish week 2, but it will take a lot of effort. Maybe 3 hours a day today and sunday. Start off the day by getting a few eye contacts and hellos to boost your confidence; get 10 of those. Then go for the conversations, and try to get 5 a day. Just go for it!
 

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Konada said:
Looks like I won't be getting past week 2 anytime soon.

Was waiting for my friends to watch a movie so I sat down waiting for em. Beside me was this dude who seemed to be waiting for someone also. He looked tired so I commented 'You look tired dude, rough day?' I don't what the fvck is wrong with this dude but he just stared at me and resumed nitpicking at his phone. Anti social much?

Met another lady while waiting for the train. I was going for a warm approach because it would be creepy if I just talked to her (i couldn't find any situational openers and she wasn't even a 6) but she was glued to her phone (no suprise) so no eye contact and I left it at that.

Met a new neighbour in the lift. Smiled at him he gave me the bert stare.

Later on a 2 set came into the lift. One of em was a chick that blew me off last week so I didn't have any intention of acknowledging her presence. Her friend was at least a 7 though.

Rough day guys, my society seems more cold than other places like the US or even London.
Well how are you opening the conversation?

Since your society seems cold to you, maybe try an opening that's more formal like "Hello sir/ma'am, do you have the time?"

Then you could go onto to things such as where are you headed, or use Pimpologists questioning.
 
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