Now James Bond is AFC

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Apparently in the new Bond 'prequel' film it's revealed that the reason James Bond is a love 'em and leave 'em type is that he was once burned by a woman in a relationship. To protect his heart he decides to stick to meaningless sex rather than trust in a relationship.

So now the textbook example of an alpha male following his natural urges has been retro-fitted to be a recovering AFC who needs an excuse to not act needy and develop a raging oneitis over ***** Galore.

What next, revealing that Darth Vader used to be a whiney little cry-baby who was manipulated by a woman he had put on a pedestal until... ah crap.
 

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Nighthawk said:
So now the textbook example of an alpha male following his natural urges has been retro-fitted to be a recovering AFC who needs an excuse to not act needy and develop a raging oneitis over ***** Galore.

This is making a travesty of James bond.

James bond scared of getting hurt lol, thats bull ****.

Why didn't they just paint big ben pink.
 

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Yep, James Bond will have meaningless sex with DDSexy women, just because he lost the UG he liked.

Sounds pretty afc to me, I better pay attention to mainstream entertainment more often!
 

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Apparently in the new Bond 'prequel' film it's revealed that the reason James Bond is a love 'em and leave 'em type is that he was once burned by a woman in a relationship.
In "The Spy That Loved Me", he did reveal that he was married once. I guess they left that door too open for GenAFC to play with.
 

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Desdinova said:
In "The Spy That Loved Me", he did reveal that he was married once. I guess they left that door too open for GenAFC to play with.
you obviously haven't seen On His Majesty's Secret Service.

well you should, its good, and im definitely not a fan of bond films.
 

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James Bond was never a DJ.

Ian Fleming wrote the story of James Bond as a British comedy. Those of us farther to the West simply didn't get the joke.
 

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Demon said:
James Bond was never a DJ.

Ian Fleming wrote the story of James Bond as a British comedy. Those of us farther to the West simply didn't get the joke.
Although you said "those of US farther to the west", I hazard a guess you're one of those in the know. Mind letting us in on the west...I mean rest?
 

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Yotsuya-san said:
Although you said "those of US farther to the west", I hazard a guess you're one of those in the know. Mind letting us in on the west...I mean rest?
Since the world is a sphere, if you travel westward enough, you eventually reach the East. ;)
 

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This is an outrage! James Bond never has meaningless sex, he meant to fukk every last one of those girls. And what girl wouldn't want to tell her girlfriends that she banged James?
 

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sequal movies are made for only one reason today and that is to make money they dont give a **** if the plot is good or not they just make the script so that it appeals to all possible types of people.....
 

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piranha45 said:
you obviously haven't seen On His Majesty's Secret Service.

well you should, its good, and im definitely not a fan of bond films.
That was where he married in the end and his wife died in a drive by right?
yeah anyways, bond is still awesome :rockon:
I'll see the new (or remade if you will) casino royale, but I'm not a fan of the new bond. Goldeneye was the last good one
 
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Maybe...but the reason most guys come here in the first place is because they were done wrong by a women. If it wasn't for the initial hurt/dissapointment caused by a woman a lot of guys wouldn't have come here and may not have aspiried to be more (a don juan). So while it seems like it weakens the image of James Bond, it's quite valid.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Hm... i wonder why people care.
Because society once again is stripping away the behaviour of the masculine man and condems him while the AFC is celebrated as the king on the screen.

I am just waiting for the day when they finally kill the franchise when Bonds get's married to some black belt kicking masculine woman who will join him in his dangerous missions.
 

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I think James Bond is the funniest show ever. It's like the ultimate parody of real spies. When I first watched the movie, I thought it was a comedy. Heck, I thought Bond was the 4th Stooge!
 

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Since this is a favourite hobby horse of mine, think I'll butt in here..

The Bond books are way different to the films. They present a more complete character profile of James Bond the man, and his private life.

Fleming certainly did not write the Bond novels as a comedy. In fact, if you read any of them they are rather cold books, and Bond is not a very pleasant character in truth. As indeed he needs to be, since his job is that of a professional killer. The wisecracks and humour you see in the movies are almost completely absent from the books.

Bond does indeed get badly hurt in love, and it actually happens twice. The first time occurs in the first novel, which is actually 'Casino Royale'. Here he falls in love with a woman, Vesper Lynd, whom he ends up wanting to marry. Unfortunately, unknown to him she is a double agent, working for the KGB, and has been betraying Bond all along. She commits suicide, and Bond hardens his attitude to women.

The second time is in 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service', where he actually ends up marrying a Countess. The marriage is short lived, as she is shot dead shortly after the wedding.
This event shatters Bond's world. In the following book, 'You Only Live Twice', Bond is a wreck of a man in the beginning. He is almost fired by M for incompetance, and as a way of trying to regain something of the hard character that M needs he is 'promoted' from the Double Oh section and assigned to a diplomatic mission in Japan.
Throughout his subsequent missions, he refuses to allow himself to get so emotionally attached to one woman ever again. So his underlying reasons for his womanizing lifestyle are indeed based on fear.

The Bond books are superb novels, and I'd recommend them to anyone. But there is a warning: Bond's technique for picking up women doesn't work for most guys!
In real life, being warm and approachable with women beats the cold and cool technique hands down.
 

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Thanks, so I was completely wrong.

I was aware the novel Bond was different, though not that the refits are actually Fleming's continuity.

I still prefer the movie version where he is a shameless womanizer because that's the type of guy he naturally is. And my gf also thought the broken heart made him less sexy.
 

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Muzzlehatch said:
Fleming certainly did not write the Bond novels as a comedy.
Ian Fleming wrote the story of James Bond as a comedy, but not in the sense that you seem to be interpreting the term. Fleming worked for British Intelligence and accumulated many friends. James Bond was written as the classic opposite of a real spy. Fleming intentionally romanticized the story of James Bond to poke fun at his own experiences and at the people he knew because he knew that real intelligence work was nothing like what the story depicts. Even the Central Intelligence Agency has issued statements regarding this. I suppose a better phrase for the story of James Bond is "inside joke".
 

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