not masterbating

[scribblec]

ok ive taken up the non masterbation challenge and im doing quite well (5 days ) but more likely then not i will be getting lucky tomorow, my question is having not wacked off has made me feel more confident more on women and better overall, its as if i were to wank now all that energy will be drained, my question is if you bust a nut without wanking in a girl does the same effect happen?

 

[kdnash82]

Never really did understand the whole "don't masturbate" thing.. i personally do it when i have a girl.. sometimes even when she's sitting right there... it's a turn on for her and it feels good...

i can't honestly answer your question, and this answer will probably frustrate you even more, but if you were to ask the question on if you should whack off or save it, i'd say whack off

 

[speakeasy]

I was reading a book about sexual topics last weekend and one of the things the book said is that it's simply a myth that masterbaiting will make you lose sexual energy. This line of thinking goes back a long way. They used to tell boxers not to have sex before a fight because supposedly it will drain them of aggression. There's no such thing. Now I'm not saying go and wank right before you go out on a date, but the whole issue is overblown.

 

[limerickdesign]

The tao were masters in knowledge. Cumming drains your life force. (you can orgasm without cumming and become multiorgasmic i have attained it)

When you have sex with a girl and she orgasms Your penis absorbs her essence as it seeps out of her vaginal walls. Theres also an exchange of sexual energy as your screwing her. Masterbation only drains energy there is no gain. Thats why men after cumming with a girl fall asleep. A great drain of energy has occured.

Took me awhile to understand the value of our spunk. After reading various eastern ancient texts.

 

[ArcBound]

The tao were masters in knowledge. Cumming drains your life force. (you can orgasm without cumming and become multiorgasmic i have attained it)

When you have sex with a girl and she orgasms Your penis absorbs her essence as it seeps out of her vaginal walls. Theres also an exchange of sexual energy as your screwing her. Masterbation only drains energy there is no gain. Thats why men after cumming with a girl fall asleep. A great drain of energy has occured.

Took me awhile to understand the value of our spunk. After reading various eastern ancient texts.

Some questions:

1. Define "life force."
2. Define "essence."
3. Define sexual energy and why does it differ from regular energy
4. Masturbation drains energy, and so does basketball. In fact I feel a lot more tired after a session of basketball than masturbation. Why would this be a reason to stop either of them?

 

[Ninja Dude]

When you have sex with a girl and she orgasms Your penis absorbs her essence as it seeps out of her vaginal walls. Theres also an exchange of sexual energy as your screwing her. Masterbation only drains energy there is no gain. Thats why men after cumming with a girl fall asleep. A great drain of energy has occured.

Okay so by that logic we should have MORE energy after screwing a girl. SO why is it I can bust a quick nut and get on with my day, but if I tap some ass I need a powernap?

 

[Strelok]

I think anyone is different,there is not a fixed rule.

In my case I'm fine limiting it, I noticed a lack of sex drive and aggressivity following masturbation and while I can deal no sex drive for a couple of day I need the aggressivity for my job.
While sex with a girl relax me but doesnt deprive me of any drive.

Also there's a difference between masturbation to release tension and masturbation out of boredom, to fight stress, or fake arousal due to the vision of porn movies.

The last case is surely the worse one, even worse the fact that most guys masturbating watching porn ry their best to come as soon as possible with obvious bad habits for the nervous system.

 

[search1ng]

I'm pretty sure there have been scientific studies stating that there is no overall net loss in testosterone after cumming etc, but i have always noticed that after cumming I really don't feel aggressive, am usually pretty sleepy or ready to hit the sack and if it was an unusually large amount of ***, will feel slightly cold afterwards.

 

[n00bPimp]

Not wanking makes you more confident if you have set that as your goal. In fact, getting rid of any bad habit will make you more confident. For example, if you decide today to stop watching tv, after a few days you will feel more confident. Why? because you feel in control of yourself. You were able to not give in to the bad habit.
So if you go ahead and have sex, you will still feel confident. However, do keep in mind that for people under 40, not ejaculating every few days can cause prostate cancer once you get to your elderly years.

 

[joverby]

I'm on day 4 or 5 of not masterbating, per Alle-Gorys advice. Honestly. I haven't notice ANY difference in anything yet. Except for wanting to masterbate even more, I just feel like I have to let one go every so often. I normally did it every day.

I am also one to not be affected by placebo effects at all. I think this might be one of those things based on my experience so far. Most guys believe it's going to do something so it ends up being a self fullfilling prophecy. Not because it's actually doing anything.

I'm going to ride it out for a few more days but I haven't personally noticed any difference for myself.

 

[r0cky]

I'm on day 4 or 5 of not masterbating, per Alle-Gorys advice. Honestly. I haven't notice ANY difference in anything yet. Except for wanting to masterbate even more, I just feel like I have to let one go every so often. I normally did it every day.

I am also one to not be affected by placebo effects at all. I think this might be one of those things based on my experience so far. Most guys believe it's going to do something so it ends up being a self fullfilling prophecy. Not because it's actually doing anything.

I'm going to ride it out for a few more days but I haven't personally noticed any difference for myself.

Advice given by keyboard jockeys such as Alle-gory etc will never work. They only give you the theory of why it should work. In reality they have little to zero experience, they're too busy criticizing others or telling others what they think will work. This is how they get their self esteem, by putting others down or making themselves appear knowledgeable.

My advice, if you're going to do anything, do it because you've seen it work, or because you want test your own theory, not because some dude with thousands of posts told you to.

 

[joverby]

Advice given by keyboard jockeys such as Alle-gory etc will never work. They only give you the theory of why it should work. In reality they have little to zero experience, they're too busy criticizing others or telling others what they think will work. This is how they get their self esteem, by putting others down or making themselves appear knowledgeable.

My advice, if you're going to do anything, do it because you've seen it work, or because you want test your own theory, not because some dude with thousands of posts told you to.

You have a good point. I just didnt' see much harm in spending a week not jerking off. Was doing it to test it out myself. But like I said, not noticing ANY difference at all.

If anything I think I"m on to something about it being a placebo effect TBH.

 

[Vice]

I have an eBook coming out on this subject.

It takes quite a bit of energy to make sperm cells. If you constantly release sperm cells, your body has to redirect its energy to make new ones. Sperm cells have biological motors in them that connect to a flagella, which is like a whiplike tail. The head of the sperm cell contains DNA that's to be used when interfacing with the egg. That only accounts for some of the sperm in your body, though. Most sperm are not "egg getters", their main function is to combat other sperm cells as well as the female's defenses to get the "egg getters" to the egg.

The point is, it takes tremendous energy to produce this army. About one third of your daily energy output is for producing sperm.

The reason single men masturbate so frequently is because they are maintaining a column of sperm that is fresh and ready to impregnate a female, since old sperm will not function as well. The reason for this is because a single man's unconscious does not know when he will have the next opportunity to impregnate a female. This is from Robin Baker's book, Sperm Wars.

So essentially what we are arguing about here is whether it is more beneficial to keep a fresh column of sperm on standby at the expense of less daily energy, or to have a column of old sperm but focus our energy elsewhere. I personally choose the latter.

Plus there is a difference in masturbating by hand, and masturbating to porn. Both can be bad:

Masturbating by hand can cause "death grip syndrome", where you squeeze yourself to the point where you're less sensitive while having sex.

Masturbating to porn conditions your brain to be aroused by a woman from a third person view. Porn also has tons of negative things occur in your brain that I'm not going to get into right now. The short version: it's like junk food for your brain.

It's a personal choice.

 

[Perry]

I have an eBook coming out on this subject.

It takes quite a bit of energy to make sperm cells. If you constantly release sperm cells, your body has to redirect its energy to make new ones. Sperm cells have biological motors in them that connect to a flagella, which is like a whiplike tail. The head of the sperm cell contains DNA that's to be used when interfacing with the egg. That only accounts for some of the sperm in your body, though. Most sperm are not "egg getters", their main function is to combat other sperm cells as well as the female's defenses to get the "egg getters" to the egg.

The point is, it takes tremendous energy to produce this army. About one third of your daily energy output is for producing sperm.

The reason single men masturbate so frequently is because they are maintaining a column of sperm that is fresh and ready to impregnate a female, since old sperm will not function as well. The reason for this is because a single man's unconscious does not know when he will have the next opportunity to impregnate a female. This is from Robin Baker's book, Sperm Wars.

So essentially what we are arguing about here is whether it is more beneficial to keep a fresh column of sperm on standby at the expense of less daily energy, or to have a column of old sperm but focus our energy elsewhere. I personally choose the latter.

Plus there is a difference in masturbating by hand, and masturbating to porn. Both can be bad:

Masturbating by hand can cause "death grip syndrome", where you squeeze yourself to the point where you're less sensitive while having sex.

Masturbating to porn conditions your brain to be aroused by a woman from a third person view. Porn also has tons of negative things occur in your brain that I'm not going to get into right now. The short version: it's like junk food for your brain.

It's a personal choice.

Excellent post Vice. Very informative and interesting. I have a few questions for you since you seem to know more than most about this topic.

Does not masturbating increase your risk of getting prostrate cancer, and if so, how much does it increase you chances of getting it and how long can you safely go without masturbating?

Also, you'd think the "death grip syndrome" would be a lot more popular and well known. Since I'm sure a lot of guys who suffer from ED would be willing to give up that sensitivity if it means that they would last longer in bed.

 

[JPlaya]

I went 30 days without wanking and got nothing. Since college started, I've wanked like twice a week and I'm getting up there. I think wanking helps because you don't get random ass boners or boners near girls as much.

 

[Konada]

The belief that not wanking brings out the best in you is mostly psychological. People get confident by overcoming challenges and here resisting the urge to wank is a challenge so that might explain why people feel more confident when they don't wank. Though if I go 1 week w/o wanking I feel horny as fvck and cannot think straight. Doing squats worsens it after a couple of days lol.

 

[Colossus]

I have an eBook coming out on this subject.

It takes quite a bit of energy to make sperm cells. If you constantly release sperm cells, your body has to redirect its energy to make new ones. Sperm cells have biological motors in them that connect to a flagella, which is like a whiplike tail. The head of the sperm cell contains DNA that's to be used when interfacing with the egg. That only accounts for some of the sperm in your body, though. Most sperm are not "egg getters", their main function is to combat other sperm cells as well as the female's defenses to get the "egg getters" to the egg.

The point is, it takes tremendous energy to produce this army. About one third of your daily energy output is for producing sperm.

The reason single men masturbate so frequently is because they are maintaining a column of sperm that is fresh and ready to impregnate a female, since old sperm will not function as well. The reason for this is because a single man's unconscious does not know when he will have the next opportunity to impregnate a female. This is from Robin Baker's book, Sperm Wars.

So essentially what we are arguing about here is whether it is more beneficial to keep a fresh column of sperm on standby at the expense of less daily energy, or to have a column of old sperm but focus our energy elsewhere. I personally choose the latter.

Plus there is a difference in masturbating by hand, and masturbating to porn. Both can be bad:

Masturbating by hand can cause "death grip syndrome", where you squeeze yourself to the point where you're less sensitive while having sex.

Masturbating to porn conditions your brain to be aroused by a woman from a third person view. Porn also has tons of negative things occur in your brain that I'm not going to get into right now. The short version: it's like junk food for your brain.

It's a personal choice.

Vice, I agree with you about the porn stuff. It definitely reinforces reward pathways that are not good...a lot like junk food.

But please show me a credible reference that proves the bolded statement. That is just ludicrous man, come on. Let's be scientific here.

Personally I think the masturbation thing is overblown. Jerking a few times a week is not psychologically detrimental and is arguably healthy for your prostate. However, it can definitely be over done. The thing is, you know when you're overdoing it. You feel tired, wimpy, listless. In my opinion, habitual porn is much more mentally unhealthy than casual wanking. The best thing for a guy to do is to stop reinforcing the porn-->masturbation pathway. Get that dopamine release from other activities.

 

[joverby]

Vice, I agree with you about the porn stuff. It definitely reinforces reward pathways that are not good...a lot like junk food.

But please show me a credible reference that proves the bolded statement. That is just ludicrous man, come on. Let's be scientific here.

Personally I think the masturbation thing is overblown. Jerking a few times a week is not psychologically detrimental and is arguably healthy for your prostate. However, it can definitely be over done. The thing is, you know when you're overdoing it. You feel tired, wimpy, listless. In my opinion, habitual porn is much more mentally unhealthy than casual wanking. The best thing for a guy to do is to stop reinforcing the porn-->masturbation pathway. Get that dopamine release from other activities.

I agree completely with this and stand by my not wanking = more confidence etc. is a placebo effect.

Let's be honest. Who the hell is that person who made that book and how did they come to that conclusion? I would be very interested to know how they calculated your "daily energy." Also exactly how they calculated how much energy it takes to create sperm.

Guys riding bikes in marathon spend A LOT more energy than most people in their daily routine. How do they combat this and get more energy? By eating more food. Don't really buy that whole energy consumption thing.

 

[Vice]

Excellent post Vice. Very informative and interesting. I have a few questions for you since you seem to know more than most about this topic.

Does not masturbating increase your risk of getting prostrate cancer, and if so, how much does it increase you chances of getting it and how long can you safely go without masturbating?

Also, you'd think the "death grip syndrome" would be a lot more popular and well known. Since I'm sure a lot of guys who suffer from ED would be willing to give up that sensitivity if it means that they would last longer in bed.

I'm not very well informed on the subject of prostrate cancer, so I can't really comment on it. I believe that having an orgasm but not ejaculating can have a preventative effect.

I went 30 days without wanking and got nothing. Since college started, I've wanked like twice a week and I'm getting up there. I think wanking helps because you don't get random ass boners or boners near girls as much.

Personally, I think having a boner near a girl puts me in a sexual state. I think girls would be flattered; wouldn't you be if a girl whispered to you "You're making me so wet" and noticed her nipples were hard? But that's just me.

Vice, I agree with you about the porn stuff. It definitely reinforces reward pathways that are not good...a lot like junk food.

But please show me a credible reference that proves the bolded statement. That is just ludicrous man, come on. Let's be scientific here.

Personally I think the masturbation thing is overblown. Jerking a few times a week is not psychologically detrimental and is arguably healthy for your prostate. However, it can definitely be over done. The thing is, you know when you're overdoing it. You feel tired, wimpy, listless. In my opinion, habitual porn is much more mentally unhealthy than casual wanking. The best thing for a guy to do is to stop reinforcing the porn-->masturbation pathway. Get that dopamine release from other activities.

Mantak Chia mentions that in one of his books, but you're right; we need to find a more credible source for that statement, because I'm also skeptical about it. And it says in his book that it's NEARLY a third, which means that mathematically it can be anywhere between 28%-33.32% of energy.

It's all about how you wish to use that energy; if you have no higher purpose to put that energy towards, than it'll go out through less worthy outlets (Napoleon Hill writes this in Think And Grow Rich).

I agree completely with this and stand by my not wanking = more confidence etc. is a placebo effect.

Let's be honest. Who the hell is that person who made that book and how did they come to that conclusion? I would be very interested to know how they calculated your "daily energy." Also exactly how they calculated how much energy it takes to create sperm.

Guys riding bikes in marathon spend A LOT more energy than most people in their daily routine. How do they combat this and get more energy? By eating more food. Don't really buy that whole energy consumption thing.

Even if it IS a placebo effect, is it detrimental?

But would you agree that it DOES take a certain amount of energy to manufacture sperm, and that once sperm levels in your body were at a high enough level, that your body would redirect those nutrients and chemicals elsewhere?

 

[Drdeee]

On day 6 I woke up in the morning and came, without jerking my ****. I was having dirty thoughts and it just come out. That's what usually happens, I go this far and right about week long I jerk off, or this one new to me just faking cam.