No Relationship, No Sex?

[exwhyzee]

A lot of people (David Deangelo in particular) say that you should not even think about being in a relationship until you have had sex with your mate. When a girl has this policy of relationship first, sex second what is the best way to get around it? I am asking this in hopes in getting responses based on past experience, rather than stuff like, "just tell her your dating".


Also how long must you be with someone before the word "relationship" is necessary, and what is the best way to keep it casual, with sex included? The reason I am asking these questions is that all the girls I have been around lately are very hot, but all seem to want "something more" in their relationship department which signals to me long term relationship.

Also links to similar previous threads will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and have a great day!

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

First of all this relationship first crap was something girls actually believed in when they were 15-17,unless you're hanging out with that young girls or the very conservative type they're just **** testing you.

 

[Kings_royalty]

When a girl has this policy of relationship first, sex second what is the best way to get around it? I am asking this in hopes in getting responses based on past experience, rather than stuff like, "just tell her your dating".


The best way to get around games like 'relationship first' is to build her attraction level, raise her IL until it blows her top. Get her to the point were she instantly gets excited when you walk in the door. If you can get her worked up enough, the only thing she will be able to think about is F*ing you.

David D is right when he says 'if she is attracted to you, there is nothing SHE can do about it' (yes, this is based on personal experience). I've seen girls do things that are completely out of character because their IL was so hi. Rules, standards, morals...they all go out the window.

Also how long must you be with someone before the word "relationship" is necessary, and what is the best way to keep it casual, with sex included?

There is no set time before the word relationship can be used, it all depends on the situation. I had an F buddy for almost a year and the word relationship was never mentioned.

The best way to keep it casual is to TELL her or communicate (there are many was to do this) that you aren't looking for anything serious or a relationship. If her IL is high, she will be o.k. with it. I know David D has material that covers this.

all the girls I have been around lately are very hot, but all seem to want "something more" in their relationship department which signals to me long term relationship.

Girls usually don't know what the hell they want bro, so don't pay attention to this. Lead them to where YOU want them.

Good Luck.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

NEXT.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When women make you wait for sex you are not their highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation of a friendship. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fukk you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fukk the sh!t out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work - women who want to fukk will find a way to fukk. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first is the same girl who fukked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

Fnding a woman who is unquestionably ready to go is time far better spent than trying to solve a girl's head puzzles. I'm of the opinion that If a girl is that into you she'll fukk regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be slvts, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

 

[djbr]

NEXT.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When women make you wait for sex you are not their highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation of a friendship. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fukk you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fukk the sh!t out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work - women who want to fukk will find a way to fukk. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first is the same girl who fukked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

Fnding a woman who is unquestionably ready to go is time far better spent than trying to solve a girl's head puzzles. I'm of the opinion that If a girl is that into you she'll fukk regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be slvts, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

A M E N .

 

[Call_Me_Daddy]

Damn Rollo. You just had to lay the truth just out there.

Didn't even sugar coat it. :rockon:

 

[Call_Me_Daddy]

NEXT.
A woman who wants to fukk you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fukk the sh!t out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work - women who want to fukk will find a way to fukk.

I believe its "drive nonstop across the country wearing a diaper.". I have not heard of this "flying" you mentioned.

Police said Nowak drove 900 miles, donned a disguise and was armed with a BB gun and pepper spray when she confronted a woman she believed was a competitor for the affections of Navy Cmdr. William Oefelein, an unmarried fellow astronaut.

Oefelein, 41, piloted the space shuttle Discovery in December. He and Nowak trained together but never flew a mission together.

Nowak told police that her relationship with Oefelein was "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according to an arrest affidavit. Inside Nowak's vehicle, which was parked at a nearby motel, authorities found a pepper spray package, an unused BB-gun cartridge, latex gloves and e-mails between Oefelein and Colleen Shipman.

They also found a letter "that indicated how much Mrs. Nowak loved Mr. Oefelein" and Shipman's home address, the arrest affidavit said.

Police said Nowak told them that she only wanted to scare Shipman into talking to her about her relationship and didn't want to harm her.

Dressed in a wig and a trench coat, she waited for Shipman's plane to land and then boarded the same airport shuttle bus Shipman took to get to her car, police said. Shipman told police she noticed someone following her, hurried inside the car and locked the doors, according to the arrest affidavit.

Nowak rapped on the window, tried to open the car door and asked for a ride. Shipman refused but rolled down the car window a few inches when Nowak started crying, the statement said. Nowak then sprayed a chemical into Shipman's car, the affidavit said. Shipman drove to the parking lot booth and police were called.

An officer reported following Nowak and watching her throw away a bag containing the wig and BB gun. Police also found a steel mallet, a 4-inch folding knife, rubber tubing, $600 and garbage bags inside a bag Nowak was carrying when she was arrested, authorities said.

Nowak is a Naval Academy graduate who has a master's degree in aeronautical engineering. She has a teenage son and younger twin girls.

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250415,00.html

 

[djbr]

I believe its "drive nonstop across the country wearing a diaper.". I have not heard of this "flying" you mentioned.

LMAO!!!!!

This, and some guys still can't grasp WTF is REALLY going when it comes to the "wait for sex" issue.

As I always have to mention... I love this board! :cheer: