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da_hunter

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Week 1
Date with a girl, goes well. Kiss close to the date. I wait a few days later and call her, get the answering machine. Leave a message. "Hey this is me, wondering what you are up to, let's hang out again." She does not return my call. Several days go by, I start thinking it's over with her. She calls me out of the blue just to talk, all of a sudden I think that it's on again.

Week 2
I call the girl again to set up a date, I get her machine, leave a message. She does not return my call. Several days go by, I start thinking it's over with her. Then she call me out of the blue just to talk. I ask her to come over and watch a movie - she tells me if it wasn't for the thunderstorm, she would come over.

Week 3
I call the girl again to set up a date, I get her machine, leave a message. She does not return m call. Several days go by, I start thinking it's over with her. A few days go by, and she calls me out of the blue - she asks me to go out to a wine tasting with her. I have previously plans and tell her I can't go. I call her a couple of days later to ask her out for that weekend. She doesn't return my call. By now I know her routine - but the minute I realize that she will call me back eventually and this is some stupid game she is playing, I start to really hate her.

Week 4
I am out with another girl. I ask her, 'hey what does it mean if you call a girl, but she doesn't return your call. But she call you up like 4 days later acting as if nothing happened.' The girl tells me 'she is probably bored and is playing with the guy.' This week I don't call the first girl to ask her out, because I'm busy with the new girl and another girl I'm seeing.

Week 5
The first girl apparently noticed I didn't call her. She sent me an email today that read 'what are you doing this week?' and she called me, but didn't leave a message. I truly despise this girl now, and her stupid games. But she is hot and if I see her again I may forget all of this business. So far I have not called her back.

Should I next this girl? There is such a thing as persistence and being casual, but there's also something called self respect.
 

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I read only alittle into week 3,,,, next her.... dont matter what it is,, u can keep the phone number and call her i.e. "lets go grab a drink" but, keep in mind, you should have called like 4 at that point

I think you should have called and set up 2nd date quicker... come on, u already kissed.. 2nd date should have been home run... you waited too long.... i.e. you already in, no need to play it that hard...
 

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Tell her straight.

"I call, you don't answer. You call me back days later as if nothing happened. I don't allow people to treat me with that kind of disrespect."

Doesn't that sound fun?

JJ
 

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I disagree with Jay Jay. You should call her out on it, but in a ****y-funny, non threatening way. The next time you leave her a message, say something like: "Hi, its me. Youre probably sitting right by the phone right now, eating cheetos and wathcing TV, but its no big deal because I understand youre playing this "dont answer the phone and call back in four days" game. I think I'm going to start playing it too. Call me and let me know what you think. Bye."
 

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exactly... Jay jay, your responce is what an AFC would do,,i.e. showing her ur upset.. what will that accomplish (i.e. ur not a married couple trying to resolve an issue)...

i believe actions stronger then words...

Dap stuff is good except last part.. instead of sayng I think im going o start playing it too..... try... "but can you do me a favor and change the four days to 1 or 2 days..."

either way.. it already sounds stupid no matter how u do it
just leave a message and if girl calls u late.. act like nothng happend, take her out for drinks and bang her.. and then if u were to consider her for serier relaitonship call her out and see what she says...
 

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I read Jay Jay's and thought it would be a good idea, but then I read Dap's and it sounded just plain better.

The cheetos and TV part is gold.
 

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Are you the type of guy that gets upset over some measly call? Or the type of guy that forgets about it and calls up another chick?

Forget about her, make her beg for you back.
 

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'calling her out on it' - no matter how you do it, seems like an afc thing to do.
 

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It’s only an AFC to call her game if you act like an AFC (ever wonder why AFC sounds like KFC... Average frustrated chicken!!!... Anyway) Think of it this way by showing her you know her game you are out gaming her I think you should go with dap's
dap said:
"Hi, its me. You’re probably sitting right by the phone right now, eating cheetos and watching TV"
and then add "I know I am meeting up with a few of my girls tonight why don't you come out and join us?." That way you are calling her on her game, DHVing, showing her that you are desirable, her pride will fall to the floor and if she is interested in you she will be jealous... if she calls ya or picks up just say "I see I tore you away from your cheetos, etc etc"…

Anyway I have a doctor’s appointment so I had to dash sorry I made this brief. If you know any NLP I would incorporate it into your message (I don’t have time to work a pattern right now)...

Hope I was of some help

Love

Amethy (wow the abbreviation of my name sounds reeeealy gay for some reason @.@)
 

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Da_hunter, I think you need to next her. She is using you as a play thing and only getting in touch with you on her terms and when it is convienient to her. She doesn't care about your needs at all and simply isn't that into you. I would just cut off all contact with her, no more phones calls and ignore her e-mails. This will get the time waster out of your life and have the added bonus of pissing her off, because if she's good looking she probably wouldn't be used to being treated that way. Remember the opposite of love is not hate but indifference - do not let her get a reaction out of you and you will make her feel diminished.
 

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I say put her on ice, and deal with the girls who are more active with you. Let the first girl prove that she's worth the time. Her being hot makes no difference if she aint lettin you hit it.
 

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da_hunter said:
Week 1
Date with a girl, goes well. Kiss close to the date. I wait a few days later and call her, get the answering machine. Leave a message. "Hey this is me, wondering what you are up to, let's hang out again." She does not return my call. Several days go by, I start thinking it's over with her. She calls me out of the blue just to talk, all of a sudden I think that it's on again.

Week 2
I call the girl again to set up a date, I get her machine, leave a message. She does not return my call. Several days go by, I start thinking it's over with her. Then she call me out of the blue just to talk. I ask her to come over and watch a movie - she tells me if it wasn't for the thunderstorm, she would come over.
BOOM. HEADSHOT.

And there you have it. I honestly stopped reading right there.

You want to know why?

Because she gave you an EXCUSE!!

What? She acts like a little rain would stop her if she truly liked you. In fact, let me pose that to you as a question:

DO YOU THINK A LITTLE RAIN WOULD STOP HER IF SHE TRULY LIKED YOU?

And you should've nexted her right there, instead of wasting 3 more weeks of your life.
 

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yeah right, Vypros. Everyone knows you are the biggest AFC on this site. Like hell you would have stopped calling at that point. You'd probably be buying her flowers by now or something.
 

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Well I would say **** her and leave her chief, but im glad you made up your mind ^^... Time to find another girl for your harem!!!

Love

Amethyst
 

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da_hunter said:
'calling her out on it' - no matter how you do it, seems like an afc thing to do.
With all due respect you have either written that idea badly or you are misguided.

I think you think when I say "call her on her ****" I mean whining like a little *****.

Not so.

What I mean is: state your position in a confident manner.

Your position is that she is doing something you find unacceptable and becasue of it you are moving on.

A mature confident man calls chicks on their dumb ****, he speaks the truth and he doesn't play games.

JJ
 

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Jay Jay said:
With all due respect you have either written that idea badly or you are misguided.

I think you think when I say "call her on her ****" I mean whining like a little *****.

Not so.

What I mean is: state your position in a confident manner.

Your position is that she is doing something you find unacceptable and becasue of it you are moving on.

A mature confident man calls chicks on their dumb ****, he speaks the truth and he doesn't play games.

JJ
Exactly...when is speaking the truth so afc? God people love playing too many games nowadays.
 

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Well maybe a mature man does... I prefer ****y and funny myself with a bit of NPL to spice it up, I agree calling her **** is game, but I just don't think that being maverick about it is the right way to go. Then again I’m only serious when I take my medication, and I love playing games cause they can be fun. ^^

Love

Amethyst
 

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Jay Jay said:
With all due respect you have either written that idea badly or you are misguided.

I think you think when I say "call her on her ****" I mean whining like a little *****.

Not so.

What I mean is: state your position in a confident manner.

Your position is that she is doing something you find unacceptable and becasue of it you are moving on.

A mature confident man calls chicks on their dumb ****, he speaks the truth and he doesn't play games.

JJ
Nah.

I still think it is way more confident to just next her and walk away than it is to say 'Hey -- why didn't you call me. Ha ha I am so confident and funny ;) , I don't really care I am just calling you out on your dumb s*** oh man you are so cute you are like my bratty kid sister'.
 

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da_hunter said:
Nah.

I still think it is way more confident to just next her and walk away than it is to say 'Hey -- why didn't you call me. Ha ha I am so confident and funny ;) , I don't really care I am just calling you out on your dumb s*** oh man you are so cute you are like my bratty kid sister'.
Well do what you think is best, you obviously know her, yourself and the situation.

Can I just say I did not suggest calling, nor did I suggest CF and bull****.

Now don't get offended but I'm going to level with you here.

If you were that confident you would have said to her a while ago that her blaze attitude was not acceptable.

Time and time again she did something you didn't like and time and time again you put up with it with out a peep. And now you have had enough you are just going to give up.

You have allowed things to progress to the point where you seem to see yourself as being powerless to do anything except walking away.

You even admit that you still wanna tap that ass.

Doesn't sound confident to me.

I'm not trying to hassel you; really I'm hasselling yself becasue this was the way I used to operate.

Here's my prediction. She will call you again.

What are you going to do when she asks why you haven't been calling? I suggest you tell her straight. No games, no ultimateums, just the simple truth.

But do as you will.

JJ
 
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