New OKC message for the HB9 HB10s

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We all know these girls are getting bombarded with ass kissing messages on dating sites. So I came up with a message to knock them right off their high horse and make them want your validation.

And here is the message: (please don't just copy and paste, use it as an example. Can't let them catch on lol)

"Hey I just wanted to say that your profile is one of the best I've read today, unfortunately I think we'd probably only be better off as friends... Not to sound rude but I get the impression I'd be bored in the bedroom :-/ but, how's this site been working out for you?"

I've been getting responses left and right asking why I think that etc

I merely say oh it's just an over all vibe, you're cute but I'd be bored sorry.

I've had girl's reply with their numbers demanding I contact them haha
 

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I don't think that message is impressive at all.

Sounds needy and sticks out as "Look I am not like the other guys" kind of message to me.

Give us real data not vague, liquidy stuff.

i) How many girls did you use it with?
ii) What is the success rate you've had with it?
 

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Messaged about 10 girls. 6 replied. 1 wasn't too happy but again this is ONLY for the girls on there who look stuck up/feel they can get any guy/all their pics are of them done up for a night out in a tight short dress and high heels.
 

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Boilermaker said:
I don't think that message is impressive at all.

Sounds needy and sticks out as "Look I am not like the other guys" kind of message to me.

Give us real data not vague, liquidy stuff.

i) How many girls did you use it with?
ii) What is the success rate you've had with it?

Reeks of effort.

Besides, let's be real...online is all about how good looking you are. AND not writing any messages that will completely turn her off from meeting you.
 

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Boilermaker said:
I don't think that message is impressive at all.

Sounds needy and sticks out as "Look I am not like the other guys" kind of message to me.

Give us real data not vague, liquidy stuff.

i) How many girls did you use it with?
ii) What is the success rate you've had with it?
Respect, Boilermaker.

Your comments would go along way to putting other Wannabe Alphas out of their misery.

OP - stop playing PLAYA. Thats a really crap message. Can see thru it as clear as day
 

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actually I love it


The way I do business with my web development business, I generally am bidding against sometimes as many as 70 otehr web development companies for jobs.

what i have learned when dealing with online **** is that, the first thing, before you do anytihng, anything at all, you have to stand out. you have to. doesn't matter why you stand out, but you ahve to stand out.


If not your profile is going to get tossed in the wayside with everyone elses regardless of how smooth your game is, you haven't grabbed her attention.

you can't treat online **** like you treat real life ****. that's some **** i would never say in real life. but on line, most girls first reaction is going to be either to ask why or they are going to email you back just to tell you how big of a jerk you are. either way, you got the hard part done; you got her attention. from there it's a cakewalk. by

when i am emailing clients i generally start off saying something 100000x outlandish. like look.. i'm going to lay this like this; you aren't going to find anyone better than me so dont' bother. whatever it is you are trying to do i assure you you won't find a better job at a better price with us, and if you do i will do your site free of charge.

but the kicker, is i never ever send examples of my work wtih the first email; beucase i don'tw ant them to look ati t.. and our work is that good IMHO... but that's znot the point. i actually get more responess ffrom clients by not sending our portoflio than by sending it. By sending the portfolio the first time there is no drama, no build up. by sending your portoflio you get clumped in with like 70 other opepole and they can go them them all at their own pace. by telling him look man, stop wazsint your time and send me the god damn check, you if anything, stand out. he's going to automatically email you back and say well show me what ou can do.

by doing this not only have you got him to respond, you also got him to actually LOOK at your **** when it hits his email.

**** even the ****ns that email me back to tell me how big of an arrogant prick i am and how business like that is not, **** you emailed me didn't you lol? every once in a while i even sale those people.

And then, even when we don't get a job from a client, it's engrained in the client's head, we're good. we never lose clients beucase someone else is just better, beucase the client associates us with good work. maybe someone out bidded us or someone offered to do the job with no deposit at all, but never does the guy come to me and say you just arne't good enough.


for what you are trying to do, you have done a masterful job my man. you would be a good sales person. that's exactly what the fvck you do.

to the guys who are worried about her seeing through it, you miss the entire point. i don't give a **** if she thinks i'm a jerk, or she sees threw it, i am just trying to get her to contact me back and actually rad what i have to say or hear what i have to say. at that point your game takes over. but you have to grab her attention first. as the 48 laws of power says, court attention at ALL costs. not half ass costs. not 75% costs. do whatever the fvck you got to do to get your ass noticed.
 

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So in short, you are saying : stand out.

That's fine, as long as it's done gracefully.

Standing out for the sake of standing out is a random molecule doing Brownian motion in a liquid. Wait for 10 minutes and see where it goes.

Key to success has to have some deliberation. OP's message is rude, presumptuous and just plain needy.

That he'd be bored in the bedroom? Yikes, man you guys don't know a thing about how women think if you buy into that stuff.
 

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backbreaker said:
actually I love it


The way I do business with my web development business, I generally am bidding against sometimes as many as 70 otehr web development companies for jobs.

what i have learned when dealing with online **** is that, the first thing, before you do anytihng, anything at all, you have to stand out. you have to. doesn't matter why you stand out, but you ahve to stand out.


If not your profile is going to get tossed in the wayside with everyone elses regardless of how smooth your game is, you haven't grabbed her attention.

you can't treat online **** like you treat real life ****. that's some **** i would never say in real life. but on line, most girls first reaction is going to be either to ask why or they are going to email you back just to tell you how big of a jerk you are. either way, you got the hard part done; you got her attention. from there it's a cakewalk. by

when i am emailing clients i generally start off saying something 100000x outlandish. like look.. i'm going to lay this like this; you aren't going to find anyone better than me so dont' bother. whatever it is you are trying to do i assure you you won't find a better job at a better price with us, and if you do i will do your site free of charge.

but the kicker, is i never ever send examples of my work wtih the first email; beucase i don'tw ant them to look ati t.. and our work is that good IMHO... but that's znot the point. i actually get more responess ffrom clients by not sending our portoflio than by sending it. By sending the portfolio the first time there is no drama, no build up. by sending your portoflio you get clumped in with like 70 other opepole and they can go them them all at their own pace. by telling him look man, stop wazsint your time and send me the god damn check, you if anything, stand out. he's going to automatically email you back and say well show me what ou can do.

by doing this not only have you got him to respond, you also got him to actually LOOK at your **** when it hits his email.

**** even the ****ns that email me back to tell me how big of an arrogant prick i am and how business like that is not, **** you emailed me didn't you lol? every once in a while i even sale those people.

And then, even when we don't get a job from a client, it's engrained in the client's head, we're good. we never lose clients beucase someone else is just better, beucase the client associates us with good work. maybe someone out bidded us or someone offered to do the job with no deposit at all, but never does the guy come to me and say you just arne't good enough.


for what you are trying to do, you have done a masterful job my man. you would be a good sales person. that's exactly what the fvck you do.

to the guys who are worried about her seeing through it, you miss the entire point. i don't give a **** if she thinks i'm a jerk, or she sees threw it, i am just trying to get her to contact me back and actually rad what i have to say or hear what i have to say. at that point your game takes over. but you have to grab her attention first. as the 48 laws of power says, court attention at ALL costs. not half ass costs. not 75% costs. do whatever the fvck you got to do to get your ass noticed.

THIS - Thank you, that's exactly what I'm getting at and why I said the message is only addressed to the HB9/HB10 girls.

Have I had pissed off replies calling me a jerk etc? Yes, but the point is they replied like backbreaker said and they'll continue to reply for the most part because my responses from there on out are less "rude" and they start seeing me a man of worth for having said such a bold statement initially.
 

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my wife and i watched the patriot (first time) what... saturday night... first movie i cried in since i saw babmi's momma get shot lol. f

anyway, during the movie you know mel gibon's character is trying to tell these malita dudes look.. fvck you traditions and how a gentlemen is supposed to fight, you can either fight with dignity and get your **** pushed in or you can fight like i tell you and have a fighting chance.

dating, is gorilla warfare my friends. you can either adapt or jack off. i spent my years worrying about what was "right" before i came here and cried many a nights a sleep heartboken,k used, cheated on, everything.

it's just like if you go buy a car, and every Saturday the car dealer will put 1 car on the lot in the newspaper at like, 5k under cost with no accessories whatsoever just to get you to show up at the car lot and once you get there and look at cars that actually have air, and **** you forgot bout why you came to the car lot in the first place.

I mean, everyone has morals. I have morals. there are some things in good faith i just can't do. but making some outlandish clame to get a board to call me back, is no where close to being on my morality list. I've had more than one girl before tell me "i dont' think you could handle this"... WTF is the difference?
 

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backbreaker said:
it's just like if you go buy a car, and every Saturday the car dealer will put 1 car on the lot in the newspaper at like, 5k under cost with no accessories whatsoever just to get you to show up at the car lot and once you get there and look at cars that actually have air, and **** you forgot bout why you came to the car lot in the first place.
That comparison was great. Really hit home there. I think I'm gonna try this out a bit.

Here's my question to both the people who like this, and those who don't: Would it change your opinion either way if it was toned down a bit, and the "in the bedroom" part was taken out? Would it be less effective? More effective because it isn't as rude, but still stands out?
 

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Are there 9s and 10s on OKCupid?

By the way, I don't care for the message either, seems too contrived.
 

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zekko said:
Are there 9s and 10s on OKCupid?
Hahaha... I tried finding some before to send this to. No luck...

There are on Match, but the girls on Match don't fall for this stuff as much. I have more success with regular messages there.
 

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just tested , after 2 mins two hotties visited my profile , lets hope to get some messages too
 

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new update : message from one of them :
"I didn't bother reading yours. "
I replied to her :
I didn't bother too , you just help me to win my bid with my friend by replying :)
she replied :
"You need hobbies. "

she is trying to tease me , but now I dont have any thing to reply to I ll ignore her
 

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PDubb75 said:
Hahaha... I tried finding some before to send this to. No luck...

There are on Match, but the girls on Match don't fall for this stuff as much. I have more success with regular messages there.
I've never checked out OKCupid, but I have looked to see who was on Plenty of Fish in my area. Best I saw was about a 3 lol. Of course, there is an unusually high percentage of absolutely hideous women in my area.

Actually, there are some cute girls in your age group. But it appeared that even girls in their 40s were not open minded towards dating a guy in his 50s (at least online). Most had the cutoff point where you could email them set at 50 or below. When you're older, you're better off letting them be charmed by you in person, instead of just letting them eliminate you immediately because of your age.

Oddly enough, this is the issue that brought me here. In my 30s and 40s, I always felt my age/maturity was an advantage with women. But as I got closer to 50, I began to be concerned about that being the next level up, where I would be seen as "old" as opposed to "mature". I came here trying to see if I could find something to compensate for it (there wasn't). Not that there isn't some good advice here, but anything worth knowing I had pretty much already figured out from dealing with women for 40+ years.
 

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Zekko; OKC usually has a better yield than Match or POF, at least in college towns for girls ranging in 18-30.

That's what I observed, OKC after POF was eye-opening for me. But I'd still be inclined to say a statement like

" a message for the HB9's and 10's in OKC " is an oxymoron.


Maybe a single 9 or 10 in every five thousand users could be a conservative estimate.
 

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Looks-wise, I think Match blows them both out of the water. There are some straight up hotties in my age group in my area on Match. Reply rate is a lot lower, though. And they NEVER reply to these type of messages, or the ones that Naughty Ninja always put up. Works sometimes on the free sites.

Girls I would rate 8-10:
POF - 0/100
OKC - 4/100
Match - 15/100

Another thing I like about Match, they are shallow as hell! You message an 8, and then for the next few weeks, their daily email matches say "Here are the matches we found for you based on contacting HB8:". The matches will all be 7s-9s with all different profile information.

So, now that I have messaged only cute girls, 80% of the matches they send to me I would fvck. I don't even need to use the search feature anymore because they send all the good ones my way.
 

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Thanks for the info, Boilermaker.

PDubb75 said:
Another thing I like about Match, they are shallow as hell! You message an 8, and then for the next few weeks, their daily email matches say "Here are the matches we found for you based on contacting HB8:". The matches will all be 7s-9s with all different profile information.
This is something I've always wondered about these matchmaking websites. How do they determine how physically attractive someone is? Is there some method through which users rate each other? And do they take physical attractiveness into account when making matches? I'm kind of surprised if they do, since attractiveness is at least a somewhat subjective thing.
 
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