Never get cheated on, feel jealous or feel mis-trusting again.

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Ever get jealous with your girl?

Ever worry that she'll cheat on you?

Thats normal, but if you don't deal with it properly, it will eat away at you and your relationship. If you feel those things, its VERY dificult to just ignore them. Whats the answer?

Quite simply: forge strong relationships with everyone around her. Really extend yourself into her life, push your social abilities to the max and reach out to as many people that are close to her. Don't be smarmy, but be genuinely friendly. That means: asking about them, paying attention, caring about what they've been up to.

This is the golden rule: never smother her, never dominate her time or her body, and never lavish physical affection on her when there's "her people" around. Dropping all the couple-stuff means you can ALL BE EQUAL and so all get on as friends. Save the kisses and hugs for the bedroom. This way you will be accepted and integrated as a couple AND as an individual into the social setting (friend, family, whatever.) PLUS, your girl will lap up the way you respect everyone, and like you more, and get increasingly moe desperate for your affection - perfect indifference. This is the golden rule.


HER GIRLFRIENDS.

- If they find you attractive, its easy. Don't try and charm them or come on to them (!) but just be very open and friendly. They will be flattered and will inevitably develop some loyalty towards you.

- If they don't find you attractive, be more open and more friendly... find that common ground. Learn how to deal with them.

- If they don't like you... well, don't let that happen. If they already do for some past reason, you need to repair that damage ASAP. Whatever it takes.

- ALWAYS put the friends before yourself. If there is choice betwen you and them, suggest your girl go with them 99/100 times. Everyone, your girl included, will love you for this. Can't lose. MAKE SURE THE FRIENDS ABSOLUTELY KNOW YOU DO THIS. Try and have them around whem you suggest it. The situations will arise for sure, now that all you guys are hanging out like friends (cos youre so damn friendly!)

- When you all go out or do stuff together, try and put slightly more effort into the unattractive friends than the attractive ones, and more effort into the friends than the girl (be careful not to overdo it!)

HER GUYFRIENDS.

- Find common ground and bond with them on that. Push yourself - its harder to want to befriend random guys, but youve got to.

- If theyre deisrable in some way - your gf might have a DJ or goodlooking guyfriend - up the effort factor times 10. Read on...

-If one of them likes your girl, or they've had "history", or worse you suspect they might like each other in some way.... YOU MUST MAKE 150% EFFORT WITH HIM. This is a billion times more effective than beating on him, or calling him out on it; he won't understand. Don't set up sides that your girl will then have to choose from! You may not like the answer - esp. if he's been around longer.

IF you do this right, he won't be ABLE to seduce your girl, because:

(a) he'll like you - you try cheating on someone you like (really like) - only the most heartless mfs could do it.

(b) your girl will like you too much, since your so damn friendly, secure, and not jealous.

(c) your girl realises you and him have a "GUY LOYALTY" now that cant broken. She cant take any chances any longer.

You've broken up a potential "get-together"... with nothing but friendship. You've basically undermined their little "attraction", you've hustled them both... and COME OUT SMELLING LIKE THE BEST GUY IN THE WORLD.


FAMILY.

- Get off on the right foot early. Find out the family background. Are they religious? Are they evil overlords hell-bent on world domination? Depending, upon meeting them, follow social etiquette. Appear traditional and respectful - shake the fathers hand (if he's around!), perhaps a gentle peck on the cheek of mom (depends on MANY factors of course - she might have a dragon for a mom, religious etc.) Either way; you must gauge what's appropriate and act in that way without hesitation. Appear confident, but not ****y.

- Ask questions, find out as much as is polite. Make every effort to converse fully. Find common ground; if you have knowledge of or interest in things that they do, you're more than half-way there. Focus on the family and not the girl. AGAIN, this is the key.

- Don't take their little girl/sister away from them. As with friends, always suggest your girl puts her family first, and make sure they know this (say it when theyre around.)

- That ties in with taking it slow. Demonstrate respect for your girl and her family by limiting the number of "sleep-overs" till the time you've forged stronger relations with the family. Once they like and trust you (they will - remember, you're a great friendly guy) they will be supportive of your relationship and you, so that they are much happier if she's with you over anyone else. Get their full blessing.


"WHY WILL THESE THINGS SEVERELY REDUCE THE CHANCE OF HEARTBREAK?"


1) Because it is virtually impossible for a girl to cheat on you when you are fully integrated into her life, when all her friends like you, when her guy friends (or potential "cheat-targets") like and have some guy-loyalty to you, and when her family likes and supports you. Apart form the actual practical difficulty of doing so in these circumstances, she is sensible enough to realise if she did cheat with a guy (she'd have to be out by herself - unlikely), you would now find out from any number of people. She would not be able to tell anyone - virtually impossible for a girl. I think I'll call this theory "DRIVING A FRIENDLY WEDGE".

2) You are a "great guy" that everyone likes - your are the catch.

3) You are so busy being friendly to everyone in her life that you are not all over her, smothering her or boring her.

4) You will be MUCH less jealous because you've got allies - lots of them. Less jealousy = better you = better relationship.
 

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Originally posted by AMF
Ever get jealous with your girl?

Ever worry that she'll cheat on you?

Thats normal, but if you don't deal with it properly, it will eat away at you and your relationship. If you feel those things, its VERY dificult to just ignore them. Whats the answer?

Quite simply: forge strong relationships with everyone around her. Really extend yourself into her life, push your social abilities to the max and reach out to as many people that are close to her. Don't be smarmy, but be genuinely friendly. That means: asking about them, paying attention, caring about what they've been up to.

This is the golden rule: never smother her, never dominate her time or her body, and never lavish physical affection on her when there's "her people" around. Dropping all the couple-stuff means you can ALL BE EQUAL and so all get on as friends. Save the kisses and hugs for the bedroom. This way you will be accepted and integrated as a couple AND as an individual into the social setting (friend, family, whatever.) PLUS, your girl will lap up the way you respect everyone, and like you more, and get increasingly moe desperate for your affection - perfect indifference. This is the golden rule.


HER GIRLFRIENDS.

- If they find you attractive, its easy. Don't try and charm them or come on to them (!) but just be very open and friendly. They will be flattered and will inevitably develop some loyalty towards you.

- If they don't find you attractive, be more open and more friendly... find that common ground. Learn how to deal with them.

- If they don't like you... well, don't let that happen. If they already do for some past reason, you need to repair that damage ASAP. Whatever it takes.

- ALWAYS put the friends before yourself. If there is choice betwen you and them, suggest your girl go with them 99/100 times. Everyone, your girl included, will love you for this. Can't lose. MAKE SURE THE FRIENDS ABSOLUTELY KNOW YOU DO THIS. Try and have them around whem you suggest it. The situations will arise for sure, now that all you guys are hanging out like friends (cos youre so damn friendly!)

- When you all go out or do stuff together, try and put slightly more effort into the unattractive friends than the attractive ones, and more effort into the friends than the girl (be careful not to overdo it!)

HER GUYFRIENDS.

- Find common ground and bond with them on that. Push yourself - its harder to want to befriend random guys, but youve got to.

- If theyre deisrable in some way - your gf might have a DJ or goodlooking guyfriend - up the effort factor times 10. Read on...

-If one of them likes your girl, or they've had "history", or worse you suspect they might like each other in some way.... YOU MUST MAKE 150% EFFORT WITH HIM. This is a billion times more effective than beating on him, or calling him out on it; he won't understand. Don't set up sides that your girl will then have to choose from! You may not like the answer - esp. if he's been around longer.

IF you do this right, he won't be ABLE to seduce your girl, because:

(a) he'll like you - you try cheating on someone you like (really like) - only the most heartless mfs could do it.

(b) your girl will like you too much, since your so damn friendly, secure, and not jealous.

(c) your girl realises you and him have a "GUY LOYALTY" now that cant broken. She cant take any chances any longer.

You've broken up a potential "get-together"... with nothing but friendship. You've basically undermined their little "attraction", you've hustled them both... and COME OUT SMELLING LIKE THE BEST GUY IN THE WORLD.


FAMILY.

- Get off on the right foot early. Find out the family background. Are they religious? Are they evil overlords hell-bent on world domination? Depending, upon meeting them, follow social etiquette. Appear traditional and respectful - shake the fathers hand (if he's around!), perhaps a gentle peck on the cheek of mom (depends on MANY factors of course - she might have a dragon for a mom, religious etc.) Either way; you must gauge what's appropriate and act in that way without hesitation. Appear confident, but not ****y.

- Ask questions, find out as much as is polite. Make every effort to converse fully. Find common ground; if you have knowledge of or interest in things that they do, you're more than half-way there. Focus on the family and not the girl. AGAIN, this is the key.

- Don't take their little girl/sister away from them. As with friends, always suggest your girl puts her family first, and make sure they know this (say it when theyre around.)

- That ties in with taking it slow. Demonstrate respect for your girl and her family by limiting the number of "sleep-overs" till the time you've forged stronger relations with the family. Once they like and trust you (they will - remember, you're a great friendly guy) they will be supportive of your relationship and you, so that they are much happier if she's with you over anyone else. Get their full blessing.


"WHY WILL THESE THINGS SEVERELY REDUCE THE CHANCE OF HEARTBREAK?"


1) Because it is virtually impossible for a girl to cheat on you when you are fully integrated into her life, when all her friends like you, when her guy friends (or potential "cheat-targets") like and have some guy-loyalty to you, and when her family likes and supports you. Apart form the actual practical difficulty of doing so in these circumstances, she is sensible enough to realise if she did cheat with a guy (she'd have to be out by herself - unlikely), you would now find out from any number of people. She would not be able to tell anyone - virtually impossible for a girl. I think I'll call this theory "DRIVING A FRIENDLY WEDGE".

2) You are a "great guy" that everyone likes - your are the catch.

3) You are so busy being friendly to everyone in her life that you are not all over her, smothering her or boring her.

4) You will be MUCH less jealous because you've got allies - lots of them. Less jealousy = better you = better relationship.
Never mention religion when going out with a date, this could lead to problems.

Everything else pretty much is right, just make sure you don't hit on her when her "friends" are around...all that will lead to is disaster, trust me I know.
 
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(a) he'll like you - you try cheating on someone you like (really like) - only the most heartless mfs could do it.
Yeah, we all know this doesn't happen in real life. :rolleyes: :crackup:
 

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theres some good points and some bad points..

you've been dating her for 18 months..

by this time, ur seeing her family, and her friends and her so much. they are all your best friend. thats awesome.

BUT you might not really like them, and have had to befriend them anyway... thats ok too..

now for arguements sake, you break up for some reason.. maybe she gets a GREAT job over seas and you have a great job at home..

for the better part of 18 months you've been putting extra energy into all these people which you may not actually like all that much. when the people you do like, you've been cutting contact with them. not seeing them as much as you would.

18 months of that is pretty hard to recover from..

suddenly you've got a bunch of old friends you don't see, a bunch of new friends you don't like (not as much as your old friends anyway). even if you go back to your old friends, they've all changed and you've changed. and it just won't be right (that happens after about 5 months IMO.

essentially, you're screwed..

BUT your girlfriend didn't cheat on you :)
 
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You should never get into the habit of passing up opportunities to hang out with old friends to make friends with your g/f's family - thats stupid. That wasn't advised.

The idea is just to make sure they all love you. Assuming your (good) reputation precedes you, its not all that hard - people want to believe that their friend/daughter has found herself a good man.

So make a good amount of effort with the people your girl hangs with, while being clear that at all times your old friends will always be around and receive a roughly constant amount of your attention.

Your g/f won't cheat, will love the fact that you're "part of her life" and if things do go wrong, you haven't lost your friends, but you do probably have some worthwhile new contacts in the hunt for the next HB.
 

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Re: Re: Never get cheated on, feel jealous or feel mis-trusting again.

Originally posted by DJ Hawtness
Never mention religion when going out with a date, this could lead to problems.

Everything else pretty much is right, just make sure you don't hit on her when her "friends" are around...all that will lead to is disaster, trust me I know.
Uhh, are you kidding? If it causes problems, then you NEXT her, and if it ends up being a good thing because you two have the same beliefs, all the better. You go on a date to find out whether someone is gf material or NEXT material, not walk on egg shells.
 

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[when it comes to her friends ]. . . asking about them, paying attention, caring about what they've been up to.
This is a good suggestion. Even if someone doesn't really like you, if they know you've been asking about them when they aren't around, it makes them like you more. The way people work is if you like me (in terms of friendship, at least), chances are I'm going to like you more, simply because of that fact.
 

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Amazing

AMF you should be a master DJ for that sh!t. I use some of those techniques, but all together that is pure fvcking genious. Thanks dood...
 

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This is crap.
Really extend yourself into her life, push your social abilities to the max and reach out to as many people that are close to her.
congratulations chump your her new girlfriend, becoming genuine close friends with all her chick friends and team of wishful betas?

what are you new?

Her life is HERS, my role to her is the guy who fvcks her, stop trying to merge the 2 because society told you so.

the rest of the post is broken into her friends, her guy friends and family. The first 2 I already commented on which leaves family and you explaining all the hoops I must jump through.

wrong again. Be the dominant male who fvcks her properly and you can literally get away with being charged with 4 counts of murder 1 as far as she cares. You think a pissed off father is going to sway her already made up chick mind?

spare me.:down:
 

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- That ties in with taking it slow. Demonstrate respect for your girl and her family by limiting the number of "sleep-overs" till the time you've forged stronger relations with the family. Once they like and trust you (they will - remember, you're a great friendly guy) they will be supportive of your relationship and you, so that they are much happier if she's with you over anyone else. Get their full blessing.
damn right. While getting the parental blessing isn't a requirement, it makes everything so much easier. Heck, my parents freakin love my boyfriend, and because he's respectful of them and they've learned to trust him, they've been supportive and then some. (they tell us to take longer on dates, and they actually pay for stuff sometimes). They didn't hate my other boyfriends, it's just that my boyfriend now has been incredibly respectful (read: didn't sit out in the driveway blaring the horn instead of coming to the door like a human being)
 

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Good tips but I still feel a DJ's real strength lies within himself and not the friends he makes. If a DJ gets cheated on, is jealous or is not trusting of others, it's all because of his internal make up. Nothing he changes in his outside world will make much difference if inside he is still one that allows those things effect him negatively.

Personally, I'd work on my DJ skills of keeping a woman interested so that she doesn't want to cheat. I'd work on my own self confidence and self esteem that will allow me not to care if another guy makes a move on my girl. I know how to choose a woman that has integrity and would not succumb to some DJ wannabee.

As for trust, I would never relinquish my personal power to anyone by worrying whether I can trust them or not. Trust is the ability of you to handle whatever experiences other people put upon you.

In a nutshell, a DJ's creates his own true power. Manipulating external sources works minimally at best. Controlling yourself is where the true power lies.
 

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Good tips but I still feel a DJ's real strength lies within himself and not the friends he makes. If a DJ gets cheated on, is jealous or is not trusting of others, it's all because of his internal make up. Nothing he changes in his outside world will make much difference if inside he is still one that allows those things effect him negatively.

Personally, I'd work on my DJ skills of keeping a woman interested so that she doesn't want to cheat. I'd work on my own self confidence and self esteem that will allow me not to care if another guy makes a move on my girl. I know how to choose a woman that has integrity and would not succumb to some DJ wannabee.

As for trust, I would never relinquish my personal power to anyone by worrying whether I can trust them or not. Trust is the ability of you to handle whatever experiences other people put upon you.

In a nutshell, a DJ's creates his own true power. Manipulating external sources works minimally at best. Controlling yourself is where the true power lies.
Now THIS is advice:)
 
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