Need help: Sophomore in High School

[thegrandillusion]

I'm a sophomore in high school and really need help with this girl that I'm crazy for. Before you read this, if you're here to just tell me to move on, then go ahead and hit back. I know that's an option but I want to know how to score with her. Anyway; this girl had a massive crush on me in the 8th grade, so much that she cried over me, but I didn't like her back as I had a girlfriend at the time. We reconnected in November and I asked her to homecoming and she said yes, but said as a friend. Anyway, since then the typical friend zone story occurs- we become really good friends, she tells me everything about herself, I know all her secrets, whenever she needs help she comes to me. I know, sounds like friend zone. But sometimes I play hard to get and don't care, sometimes she lets me go to her, and I don't always text/contact her first. Usually, I've taken it that I text first every two days and I usually end the conversation. This is after I came on too hard; I was obsessed, I complimented her every feature, and we Skyped almost every night late. Now, we don't Skype as much anymore and I'm not sure why. She's told me several times that she sees me as a friend and I've told her I have a major thing for her; despite this, we went on a date to the movies (she referred to it as a date) before Christmas and I held her hand and and put my arm around her. Then, a couple days before Christmas, she told me flat out I had no chance with her (after I asked her first.) Then, she sent me pictures of herself without clothing (bra and underwear only) without any asking on my part. Totally confused me. Anyway, she still usually texts first, and she has taken notice that I don't seem to be as much into her (even though I completely love her). I just want to know how to get her to like me- do I compliment her every feature, do I pretend I'm not interested, do I use jealousy (which she has admitted that she's jealous of other girls around me), ask her to hang out more/ make a move on her, or what? I'm willing to try anything; I know she has interest in me, I just need to know how to put that into affection so that we can date.

 

[LearningSlowly]

Why don't you try to kiss her? Seems like that's the only thing you haven't tried yet.

 

[thegrandillusion]

I could, I just don't know if I asked her to hang out again and then tried to make a move on her if it would just ruin it and make it awkward or something.

 

[f283000]

Do you know what you are? You are her EMOTIONAL TAMPON!

You are a classic case. You listen to her every problem, tells you everything about herself, you talk to her almost on a daily basis, you take her out to the movies and what do you get? NOTHING!

An emotional tampon is just that a guy that a woman will use in order to listen to her bs/feed her ego.

She sending you those pictures was she continuing to play mind games with you. Keeping you under her control with hopes that you one day might f___ her. You get a picture of her in bra/panties and she gets her ego boosted by you.

Don't feel too bad about yourself because countless men have fallen for this trap. You are only like the 10,000 emotional tampon case in this forum.

 

[thegrandillusion]

Yes, I realize all of this, and I know that moving on is a large option, I just want to know how to get myself out of being an emotional tampon. Plus, it's not like when we talk it's all about her problems; mostly we just talk and flirt; I want to know how to get her.

 

[f283000]

The Best Thing You Can Do: Realize the mess you have gotten yourself into, realize how this girl is using you in a very evil way and hopefully through realizing her true nature you will lose attraction for her.

If you want to waste your time trying to win her: I don't advocate trying to escape the friend zone because the chances are SLIM, VERY SLIM.

You need to become sexual with her. I'm talking about using the comfort she already has with you and pushing the kino with her to the limit. Touch her in her arm, shoulder, hold her hand, pat her and grab her butt etc. You really need to push the envelope here if you plan on her seeing you any other way besides an emotional tampon.

I'm not saying she will change her perception of you right away but if you keep the kino going for a good amount of time she will be overpowered with emotion and feelings for you sooner or later, and then you will have to make the leap and kiss her. Just grab her and plant a kiss on her and hold it.

In situations like this it doesn't matter what you say to a girl if she has you in the friend zone nothing you can say will change that. You need to use the dark art of kino to get her juices flowing and her attraction to grow from you.

The question you have to ask yourself is it really worth it? It might take weeks or months of constant kino to get her in a sexual mood with you. Your time could be better spent gaming other girls.

btw you never compliment a woman "in every way" like you did. If you want to compliment a woman you tell her she "looks sexy" which shows sexual intent thus putting you away from the friend zone. Remember that next time.

 

[thegrandillusion]

Does anyone suggest just finding a time alone and then planting one on her and seeing how she reacts? Any other suggestions?

 

[f283000]

Does anyone suggest just finding a time alone and then planting one on her and seeing how she reacts? Any other suggestions?

But you don't mention getting her ready for it. That's why I said you need to get her ready with kino then plant one on her.

Put some serious kino on her for like a week or 2. Every time you hang out with her kino her, flirt with her, call her sexy, talk to her about sex, get her in the mood for it.

You need to soften her up first to give yourself the best chance of winning.

 

[LearningSlowly]

But you don't mention getting her ready for it. That's why I said you need to get her ready with kino then plant one on her.

Put some serious kino on her for like a week or 2. Every time you hang out with her kino her, flirt with her, call her sexy, talk to her about sex, get her in the mood for it.

You need to soften her up first to give yourself the best chance of winning.

No! My friend, your piece on the emotional tampon was brilliant, but otherwise you give bad advice today!

He NEEDS to isolate as soon as possible and try to kiss her. This is do or die. No more excuses, no more suffering. If he worries about his 'kino levels' constantly he will feel forced. He needs to solidify himself in his gut and go for it.

One kiss will decide your future my friend, and either way it's resolved pain. Either she likes you, and you enjoy the honeymoon of a new relationship, or she doesn't, and you slice this cancerous tumor off of yourself.

 

[thegrandillusion]

I must say that that is ingenious. An opportunity is coming up in several weeks after exams are over; I recently posed the idea of her coming over to my place to chill and she agreed it was a good idea and wants to hang out with me. There's an outdoor campus school near my house within walking distance that is fun to walk around; it is an excellent place to be alone yet without confinement. Good idea?

 

[LearningSlowly]

Absolutely. Except for the several weeks. But later is better than never, good luck.

 

[thegrandillusion]

Thank you, both of you. Any other ideas from the Don Juan community?

 

[NorwegianDJ]

youre good to go

 

[Amo]

I wonder what happened.

 

[LearningSlowly]

I wonder what happened.

He said several weeks. I expect we won't know til February, if ever.