Mystery Method problem

[Freddy1]

I'm having some problems with Mystery Method's dvd's. In particular with stories that display higher value (DHV). I'm a horrible story teller and it shows (I already bombed out with this girl badly). Mystery in his DVD only gives a sample like "how his girlfriend got her car stuck in a ditch in Nevada" story ( I dont drive a car so that story wont work for me). Or how his stripper girlfriend was stalked by some guy after work and Mystery had to intervene. I'm totally stuck on this one I dont have any good stories. I'm really stuck here.

Does anyone have some good stories that display higher value (DHV)? What do you say? Some examples would be most welcome.

Some guys are Naturals when it comes to story telling. I admit I'm not one of them.

 

[everywomanshero]

I'm having some problems with Mystery Method's dvd's. In particular with stories that display higher value (DHV). I'm a horrible story teller and it shows (I already bombed out with this girl badly). Mystery in his DVD only gives a sample like "how his girlfriend got her car stuck in a ditch in Nevada" story ( I dont drive a car so that story wont work for me). Or how his stripper girlfriend was stalked by some guy after work and Mystery had to intervene. I'm totally stuck on this one I dont have any good stories. I'm really stuck here.

Does anyone have some good stories that display higher value (DHV)? What do you say? Some examples would be most welcome.

Some guys are Naturals when it comes to story telling. I admit I'm not one of them.

You need to create a life that naturally creates these stories for you. Mystery can pull it off because that's the life he leads. He is a guy that pushes the enevople, gets out there, and lives his life.

I don't doubt that some guys can pull-off being bull****ers, but in the long run it's better just to really be that guy.

So I think the thing to do is to start traveling, enlarge your social circle, do new things, join new activities. The stories will come to you, and then you can put the finishing touches on them if you still want to.

 

[Mr. Unique]

Easy, go out do something interesting and spice it up a little in you're story

go camping and tell a story how you spotted bigfoot sucking off a bear, lie a little.

 

[Derek Flint]

Forget MM

Instead, work on becoming the type of Man that women will naturally gravitate towards, instead of being a storytelling, routine machine.

RazorJack, BadBoy, Shark are the guys you want to check out.

They will teach you how to be that type of person.

 

[Oldboy]

You should check out this link...

http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/routines.html

The first two articles on "How To Construct Routines," and "Story Theory," I found especially insightful and useful.

One suggestion they make is one I'm putting into practice myself - write out your stories. I'm not a bad conversationalist, but I do have trouble coming up with stories on the fly, and hitting the high points quickly. I think this exercise will help to make the storytelling process more natural for me.

Another point - one thing Juggler stresses over and over is to make your stories about feelings. Feelings are what will really make women connect with you and what you have to say. Try to think of stories that will evoke all those feelings - happy, sad, exciting, sexy - and take her on a little thrill-ride through your conversation.

What did you do today? What feelings did you have while you were doing it? There's a story in there. It's ok to exaggerate, as long as you're evoking those magical feelings in her when you tell it.

Like anything else, practice will improve these skills. Eventually you'll be able to make the mundane fascinating. Keep at it!

Best,
Oldboy

 

[DJ_in_making]

Just remember to mention an ex-gf or a girl that likes you or something, and slip in something about you being the leader of your buddies or some crap.

 

[Krassus]

Your real problem is trying to learn/use the damn thing.

 

[Krassus]

go camping and tell a story how you spotted bigfoot sucking off a bear

I was about to criticize your post, but when I got to this part I just burst out laughing. And I'm still going.

 

[Freddy1]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. One thing I notice about a friend I use to know who tell alot of Tall Tales (forgive the pun) is that women tend to gravitate around him like candy. Like a good story teller makes one a chick magnet or something.

 

[resilient]

I've got a few tips for you:

1. When you're story telling make sure you add a lot of dynamics to your tonality voice projection.

2. Use pauses as effective points to build excitement and lure them into wanting them to find out what happens next.

3. Use your body to tell the story. Have fun with it and use your hands and arms to demonstrates visuals or something that happened.

4. Story telling has to be done with high energy, otherwise you can't keep those A.D.D. kids in check.

5. Most importantly: Look at everyone in the set and don't fixate on one person that gives you ALL the attention. One of your biggest challenge is to keep the most bored person focused on you. If you don't reach social hook point with that person, than he/she will c0ckblock you by telling your target "let's go to the bathroom" or "ok, i'm ready to go home" etc. I've had it happen so many times when a needy friend will pull my target away from me. Don't let that person CB you, engage them with intensity. Boring people not allowed in set. :nono:

 

[Freddy1]

Hey thanks dude! those tips are terrific.

Yeah I had the problem of people trying to CB me.

 

[Super_geek]

story telling to attract chicks...

thanks, I needed a luagh

 

[DJ_in_making]

story telling to attract chicks...

thanks, I needed a luagh

aight super geek

 

[Freddy1]

story telling to attract chicks...

thanks, I needed a luagh

Hey it sure works pretty well with Mystery

 

[DJ_in_making]

Hey it sure works pretty well with Mystery

Many naturals do that too.

 

[Derek Flint]

Hey it sure works pretty well with Mystery

Sure, because Mystery is Tall, a Magician, Rich (from poor SOB's trying to emulate him) and has tons of Social Proof from his "Entourage" and all his club connections.

If you can sit in VIP at the hottest club, drinking expensive liquor, then MM will probably work for you too.

I've also heard that Mystery uses "Shills" out in the field during BC's, to react positively towards his students, but that has never been confirmed.

Routines are for losers. Drop the routines and stories, and become a Man. The type of Man that women will naturally gravitate towards.

Or, use other people's stories and gimmicks.

It's up to you.

But, what happens when you run out of stories and gimmicks?

Every chick by now has heard "The Cube" and all the other masf stuff.

Be an original. Be the best person that you can be.

Yep, it's the harder way, but it also pays more dividends.

There is no shortcut or magic bullet, it takes a lot of work for many people to transform themselves into being a DJ

Don't get me wrong, I think the structure of MM is sound, but not the routines and story telling BS, and especially not that faggity peacocking BS

The day you put on mascara, or a funny hat or whatever, is the day you DLV and become a supplicator.

And why do you have to DHV? Because you assume she is automatically above you, so therefore, you have to prove to her that she isn't?

Does anyone else see the flaw in DHV?

 

[Trapper]

Derek Flint you are the man..you hit the point perfectly... people should learn your name... keep it up

 

[everywomanshero]

Mystery does not advocate people using his stories. He explicitly says not to do that for any length of time. His stories are examples of embedded DHVs.

Mystery does advocate certain sound bytes and general outlines, and he does advocate refining things that have worked in the field.

Here is the problem: If you follow Mystery's posts from day one, you will see he considers already trying to make the most of yourself in other areas of life a preresiquite for doing Mystery Method. Even in the VAH, you will see he first discusses excelling in all areas of life, being well groomed, etc. Being able to naturally attract certain women is already assumed, but in Mystery's Method it is aspired to attract women who would not otherwise be attracted, and to use strategies that result in a higher number of lays of those women you do attract.

If you cannot attract even a single woman naturally, you dress like your mother does your shopping, and you feel totally uncomfortable in pubic, then there are many, many other issues that need addressed first. If you take a bootcamp, I believe shopping sprees with some critique are included as well as an identity building session.

At sosuave we tend to focus more on getting your lifestyle together. That doesn't mean we don't get hawt chicks. I have dated rich women, black women, middle eastern women, hispanic women, married women, bi-sexual women, Masters Educated women, several strippers, and so on. There are a lot of different ways to acheive a goal. it just means that many of us feel we can be fairly direct, show some interest and still attract 9.5's who have a lot of choices. We assume the interest will be there because we've built a life that women naturally want to be a part of.

Mystery has also built a life women want to be a part of. Mystery Method is very legit, but as a *whole* it isn't for everyone. You may find that you don't need a lot of it.

Anyway, off that rant, I think what Mystery would say to do is to listen to his stories as an example, then create your own. Field test them. Not on the Internet, not by postal letter, not by feedback from guys on the net, but in real-life, face-to-face with 8+ chicks. When you do MM right, you won't have to ask, you will certainly know it. It is a big project, but as a witness to it's effectiveness when done right, there is no question it works.

 

[Distant Light]

Every method has its pros and cons, most of the guys who are looked up to in the community learnt from MM. (TD, 26, style, mehow, captainjack, affection, savoy, lovedrop, etc)

People naturally tell stories but I find storytelling builds attraction within itself because your a good storyteller it shows leadership and is pretty dominate. Read the story theory its a good outline to learning how to tell stories as a basic try to make sure you don't add to much detail cut away the parts that aren't needed.

 

[Derek Flint]

My point is to work on oneself instead of using gimmicks, stories, canned routines etc...

Think about someone having to lose weight. There are two ways really. Take a bunch of pills and fad diets, or live a healthy lifestyle where the weight will come off and stay off.

Too many people are looking for a shortcut, the easy way.

Truth is, there is no easy way, and any results gotten from gimmicks and routines will be short-lived.

It's like "Tyler Durden's 25 points" - it only addresses the symptoms, and not the cause.

If someone gets their Inner game together, most if not all of those 25 points will take care of themself.

And, having to DHV will only DLV - think about it.

It's all about Inner game. Get your inner game together, and everything else will fall into place.

I've been in the "community" off and on for nearly 10 years, and have tried numerous "methods" from numerous "gurus" and what became obvious after awhile is that no method, no matter how good, will not get results unless the inner game is fixed.

Unfortunatley, many people will never get that, and become Boot Camp/Seminar junkies, going to the next "hot" method, the next "hot" guru, but still not getting the results they desire.

Buying more and more seduction products, learning new methods, techniques, lines, routines etc... and still not getting the results they want.

Don't fall into that trap, or the trap of the easy fix, because it's an illusion.

Look at all the guys that shelled out $4K for Style's Annihilation Method.

How many of them have gotten the type of success that was promised to them?

Unless they did some "change" work, and got their inner game together, I bet many of these guys have buyers remorse right now.

Remember, for these seduction gurus, this is a business, and their in it to make money, to keep you hooked so you will keep coming back and buying more of their products.

It's not in their best financial interest to have you succeed.

Someone here once said something like "To get the Woman of your dreams, you need to become the Man of her dreams"

Superficial things like "the cube" and stories and routines and negs won't get it done.

Also, this isn't directed at Mystery, who I've met, heard him lecture, and have a ton of respect and admiration for, but I think what he offers falls way short of what most of his students need.