My Thoughts On Marriage - Specially dedicated to Love <3

Pheonix

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I'm 25, educated, good looking, social, and bound for success. I'm trying to build an empire. And I wanted it built yesterday. So why in the world would I give someone the power to destroy my empire? Pouring my blood, sweat, and tears into a legacy just to see one upset person pull the cloth from under my house of cards. NEVER.

Marriage is also a social convention and construct. Everyone does it. And the fact that everyone does it and tells you you should do it, makes me want to spit in society's face even more. I don't do what sheep do.

Furthermore, if a woman and I were in love and had a strong relationship, why would I need to prove my love with marriage? Marriage doesn't guarantee a strong relationship. Trust does.

Lastly, overzealous feminists like Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstein are largely to blame. They contributed to an unbalanced marriage in favor of the bride, much to the chagrin of the groom. If marriage became more fair in California, you would see more young men embrace it. Instead, you now have a movement of young men (and women), who won't even consider it.
 

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mangotot said:
Yes with stuff like this, your empire can easily be pulled under your feet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31832667
This really is a farce. They divorced when they were penniless then the guy goes on to make millions and she takes him to court 20 years later to get some of that money off him. It's unbelievable.
 

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LMFAO said:
This really is a farce. They divorced when they were penniless then the guy goes on to make millions and she takes him to court 20 years later to get some of that money off him. It's unbelievable.
Never. Get. Married. Warn your sons, brothers, nephews, friends and all of their friends.
 

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The concept of spending the rest of your life together with the same person is horrifying to me.

I could be in love out of my mind but how incredibly stupid do you have to be to make a LIFELONG deal based on that?

A woman always needs to believe you can replace her with another of at least equal value at the drop of a dime. Good luck with that when you've just officially vowed that's never gonna happen.
 

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Christ, what a load of crap! Guys are responsible for the hookup culture? Rubbish! Women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are gatekeepers to commitment. One reason men don't commit is that women give out sex too easily. Not the other way around. Do you really expect us to pay a premium for a commodity that is both easily obtained, plentiful, and rapidly depreciating in value? Yeah, pull the other one.

But wait, it gets better! Thanks to insane legislation taking place for the last couple decades, "commitment" for men is like putting your head on the chopping block, and fervently hoping that the headsman (or rather headswoman) won't swing the axe. The axe being, of course, the law. Sure, she might not, but she has all the power in the relationship. Any woman can DESTROY a mans life with a single false accusation, or simply by deciding that she's bored with him and its time drag him through the house of horrors that is the divorce and family court system. Christ, in many places you don't even need to get married, all you need to do is cohabitate to be eligible for alimony.

And on top of all that, most women add no value whatsoever to a mans life, apart from sex, and still expect to be treated like bloody princesses.

Really, you should be glad there are still men stupid enough to play the game at all.
95% of alimony and child support payments are still made by men. Alimony + child support is usually more than half of a man's income.
If only people in RL read this before they try to pressure you to "get married" "settle down" like one experience isn't enough :nervous:
 

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Moy_1974 said:
Lots of hand-wringing in that article! They only quoted one old diddy who was apparently sh*tting herself because girls "don’t have the opportunity to dress up and go out for an event." Woe is me!

And here's a quote that's utter bullsh*t:

“Feminism was supposed to bring women happiness,” Crouse said.

No, actually, feminism was supposed to bring women into the workforce. After WWI and especially WWII, it became clear that societies could no longer afford to have half their populations sitting at home on the couch. Feminism is, was, and always will be an economic force. Women had to be convinced that spending their lives in a cubicle or a factory line is better (and more moral) than hanging out with the kids.

Fortunately, this has made "being a wife" a whole lot less important to women. So now they no longer have to preserve their "virtue" to try to con a guy into committing to them for life so he can have ownership of their p*ssies.

These days, guys understand that p*ssies are only good for rental, not ownership. Knowing that guys know this, women are free to slut it up like one of the guys, and that makes me glad.
 

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Pheonix said:
I'm 25, educated, good looking, social, and bound for success. I'm trying to build an empire. And I wanted it built yesterday. So why in the world would I give someone the power to destroy my empire? Pouring my blood, sweat, and tears into a legacy just to see one upset person pull the cloth from under my house of cards. NEVER.

Marriage is also a social convention and construct. Everyone does it. And the fact that everyone does it and tells you you should do it, makes me want to spit in society's face even more. I don't do what sheep do.

Furthermore, if a woman and I were in love and had a strong relationship, why would I need to prove my love with marriage? Marriage doesn't guarantee a strong relationship. Trust does.

Lastly, overzealous feminists like Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstein are largely to blame. They contributed to an unbalanced marriage in favor of the bride, much to the chagrin of the groom. If marriage became more fair in California, you would see more young men embrace it. Instead, you now have a movement of young men (and women), who won't even consider it.
My question in my thread was HOW can we make men interested in marruafe again? Please tel me what we change legally so that you guys can actually enjoy marriage

I think you should start a petition for marriage rights. Will that make you happier?
 

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I can't spark for all men, but I will let you know what turned me off.

I actually wanted to get married when I was say 26 to 28, but the women still wanted bad boys and weren't interested. Now that I'm almost 40, they want a nice guy with a good job lol. I've lost interest by now.
 

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Desdinova said:
Take away women's "rights" and pull them out of the workplace. Make them reliant on men again.
fine... If that's what men want in exchange for marriage, I'm ok with it.

But I'm serious, you guys should really start a petition for male marriage right... I'm pretty sure lots of women will also sign it (including me :D )
 

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Desdinova said:
Take away women's "rights" and pull them out of the workplace. Make them reliant on men again.
That's just not going to happen. It's about as economically feasible as having the western world go back on the gold standard.

Any nation that pulled half its workforce and sat them idly at home would first find itself in an economic catastrophe and, soon after, would find itself militarily overwhelmed by the nations that didn't try it.

That's why I laugh at the manospherians. The "solutions" they propose are utterly ludicrous.
 

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The only way to make marriage financially wise for men is for the law and the courts to catch up to the feminist workplace. If women want equality, give it to them.

1. No more crocodile tears in court to get the payout from white knight judges. No more settlements favoring women. If they've achieved equality in the workplace, then they don't need to be favored in the courts. It's that simple. Or is the feminist equality really just a false equivalency?

2. Enforce prenuptial agreements. Prenuptial agreements are contracts. Both parties sign (hopefully) made fully aware of their rights by independent lawyers. The contract protects their expectation interests. Why do courts have the right to cheat men out of that expectation interest on the back end?

3. Mandatory paternity tests at birth by law. Birth certificates are legal documents, and if they're going to bear a man's name as a father, the man has every right to ensure that he is the actual father of the child.

4. Criminalize False Rape Accusation and False Domestic Abuse Accusations. Start a registry of False Rape and Domestic Abuse Accusers.
 

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marriages are a sham, as soon as you bring government into your relationship its over, its all downhill from there, being a modern day al bundy and watching tv at night after work in order to tune out your ugly wife and your kids that hate you is the best case scenario you can hope for if you get married
 

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Zarky said:
These days, guys understand that p*ssies are only good for rental, not ownership. Knowing that guys know this, women are free to slut it up like one of the guys, and that makes me glad.
I think you've spent a little too much time pretending to be one of these goony men and ended up going full retard sugar tits.

Remember your old schtick (or the schtick you use the other half of the time)?
"All women are unique snowflakes":box: This time in your quest to covertly demonize traditional marriage you went a little overboard and appeared to do a complete 180. "aint nuttin but slvts good for fvckin" Woops :eek: Get your stories sorted out.

Btw you're talking sh!t woman. The economy is tanking because of the burden of half the population being uprooted out of the home. Who do you think pays for the influx of all these "make work" jobs and non productive cubicle drones dingus. Feminism wasn't created to "boost the economy" either. It was created to destabilize society and double the tax base.
 

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Hahahaha taking away women's right so men feel safer to get married? LOL. Maybe if you stop picking bad fruit and have a better judge of character when it comes to women you men wouldn't get screwed over in the court room. At the end of the day you men can complain how badly you lot always get screwed over in this and that bla bla but us women still have it ten times harder then any of you ever will know. Don't believe me? Tell me which gender holds all the power in society and get paid more? MEN. Whose able to wh0re around freely and get women pregnant and then cry they didn't want to be fathers? MEN.

Men are the reason the world is as it is today. Who creates wars and has the majority of killers and rapists in the world? MEN. You are not as angelic as you think you are.
 

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Love<3, to answer your question... I don't think we should repeal women's rights. But, since half of the workforce is now comprised of women in the U.S., it is unfair to force men to pick up the tab in every situation. By the way, business school taught us that bit about female employment. Our management classes ALL mentioned this, and had the proper statistics to show for it. Also, if a woman's compensation is enough to take care of her basic living expenses, why should she get alimony at all? I don't believe in handouts and have no respect for people like djgirl who peddle for them. Child support should only be granted to ex-wives who do not make enough to cover their basic expenses and the expenses of their children. And, in the event her income increases before the children are 18 and is substantial enough to take care of her basic needs and the child's basic needs, child support payments should cease.

djgirl, stop whining about men having all the power. Women comprise half the workforce now! And those are not all low-paying jobs by any means. You could have gone into public accounting, which a couple years ago had a female employment rate in the 60% range. It is a matriarchal industry that pays incredibly well with virtually no unemployment rate. Before you speak, it may be wise to possess knowledge about claims you wish to make.

By the way, alternatively, whose able to ***** around freely and get pregnant and even decide to abort? Men and women are mutually responsible for bringing kids into the world. Don't know where your logic is there. I'm also amused at how you equated a small percentage of killers and rapists to the entire male gender. And guess what, in the U.S. and all of the developed world we have a special place for them called prison. I can also say that you're not as angelic as you think you are. Look, if you haven't figured out how to take care of yourself yet, it's probably because you are mental and or have psychological problems. In that case, you're right, you do not have much power at all. For people like you we have special safety nets like welfare and disability. I love how men are the problem and reason you can't seemingly afford to take care of yourself. It's a hard phucking world. Grow up.
 
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