My take on feminism

[backbreaker]

I was reading rollo’s blog post
http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/times-up/


and he does a great job as always breaking down the dynamic of the mating schedule. The problem that I see, most women have, and honestly, most men have, is that they assume that the mating schedule is somehow, evil. I don’t. never did. If you put a gun to my head I don’t believe rollo believes it’s evil either. A lot of guys get on here and they act like women are bad for having options and feel that women” get what’s coming to them” by being old and lonely. That’s not what I see as the real problem.

The real problem as I see it is that, somewhere in the last… I don’t know.. 20-40 years, women have stopped using their ace in the whole to secure what it was supposed to secure, and assumed that the party won’t end.

I have a female friend, the girl that brought me here, drop dead gorgeous. Half white half Columbian natural red long flowing hair, coke bottle body, picture perfect face, she’s 5’7 110-115, she’s never not bee the hottest girl in the room. Even though I wanted to **** her brains out, we honestly became very good friends in due time and I got to see how women like that think.. I mean, to her, men wanting to **** her brains out is just a given. It always has been and it always will be. It not something she activv ially has to think about.
She did one of the smartest things I have seen a woman do in quite a while. We eventually started messing around and… because I had really just at this time, it all started to click for me.. the thought of settling down.. even with her.. it ust wasn’t gonna happen. That and honestly we weren’t compatible like that. She was 23 at the time. a few months later she met a very good looking guy, guy was smart, ambitious, he was in college but she projected where he wanted to go. So she got engaged at 23, in her apex of her looks. and is 10000% faitheful. She has taken to being a wife quite well.

If women had this mindset, there would be no sosuave. She leveraged her looks to get what she wanted,.. a comfortable, successful life. Her friends laughed at her lol. 6 years later all her friends are now trying to find a seat off the **** coursel while her husband is 31 and is an associate producer at a TV network.

That’s how you are supposed to do it. He’s not perfect. He’s actually quite beta ish. He doesn’t like me for the simple fact that I used to **** his wife. Even though I am married and even though that neither of us wants anything to happen between us, he doesn’t like me. He’s a push over. He buys her anything she points at. But he’s good looking and he’s a good husband. With no bad habits. She looked at him and said you know what.. you aren’t perfect, but I can make a very happy life with you.

 

[Findog]

If feminism were only about equal pay for equal work and making sure women have the same educational and professional opportunities as men to go as far as their talent and skillset takes them, then there's nothing wrong with it per se. But the way it's worked out in practice is women want the perks and rights of men without the attendant responsibility and accountability.

What was it that Bill Burr said? "Equal pay for equal work? Yeah, I'll take that. Pay for my meal and the movie ticket? Eff that, you can keep that."

But BB is right: feminism has taught women that they can "have it all" when in reality they can't. The more you focus on advancing your career, the less time and energy you have into romantic relationships and starting/maintaining a family, which is what 85% of heterosexual women want. There are tradeoffs to climbing the corporate ladder, and one of them is that a lot of SWPL women are not prioritizing finding a good guy and starting a family during their prime sexual market value years. They think the 6'5 investment banker who makes six figures will still be waiting for them when they're 35, and he won't be. They wait too long to get off the cawk carousel.

I was at a party recently and ended up chatting to a 38 year old woman, single and never married, no kids. She was probably a 6 for her age, looks-wise. Somehow we got on the subject of marriage and starting a family and she basically said "I can still have children anytime I want, technology exists now to extend my fertility." Nevermind that past the age of 35 it becomes increasingly hard to conceive without very expensive fertility treatments, and the chances of the child being born with Down's Syndrome or some other sort of disorder increases as well. She's delusional. She's right that it's not impossible for her to start a family still if that's what she wants, but there are so many younger and prettier women coming up behind her that are better prospects, and she's competing against them for the same pool of men. Say she met a guy, and they got married after a 2-3 year courtship. She's going to be 41 realistically when she starts trying to conceive, and that's if she meets a guy today that develops into a serious relationship. Every day that goes by her SMV decreases bit by bit more, at least for guys that want to start a family.

 

[backbreaker]

But BB is right: feminism has taught women that they can "have it all" when in reality they can't. The more you focus on advancing your career, the less time and energy you have into romantic relationships and starting/maintaining a family, which is what 85% of heterosexual women want. There are tradeoffs to climbing the corporate ladder, and one of them is that a lot of SWPL women are not prioritizing finding a good guy and starting a family during their prime sexual market value years. They think the 6'5 investment banker who makes six figures will still be waiting for them when they're 35, and he won't be. They wait too long to get off the cawk carousel.

you want to know what the most ironic think about feminism is?
is that it truely proves that men and women are in fact equal beucase

we can't have it all either lol

i will admit there are advantages to being a male in the sense, i could put off dating women while i worked on my business and not have any long term effects, but i couldn't do both at the same time and achieve the level of success i wanted to achieve with the business.

what most women refer to as feminism is really egoism; most women think they are entitled to a man fawning over them and think that they should be able to have that kick ass legal job paying 120k a year and drinking high balls at 9pm at the local upscale bar with all her legal friends and still have the kick ass husband at home at the same time. **** men can't do that lol.

 

[disgustipated]

Men and women are equal?

What?

 

[Solomon]

Not to turn this into a racial thread but backbreaker you already know my views on how feminsim has ruined it even more for the "brothers"

thats all i gotta say

peace

 

[betheman]

I dont think most men think feminism is evil at all, a lot think its unfair, places them at a disadvantage, and it does, hostile towards feminism? definately, and in talking to women at work and in general about it, they dont care for it that much either when they see men being less than manly and having their role dissipated.
women actually want men to be men, thats all it is, they have twigged onto a few more perks but some women take it too far.

 

[backbreaker]

Not to turn this into a racial thread but backbreaker you already know my views on how feminsim has ruined it even more for the "brothers"

thats all i gotta say

peace

honestly, feminism is a blank slate, but inside of it, there are a lot of peaks and valleys that work both ways. As noted, for the most part we have the short end of the stick beucase African american women are like the women on sex in the city on HGH and crack combined.

however like the other end of the spectrum, like take my wife. she's not what i would call a feminist, and while i would not call her 20's a **** carousel .. lol more like a **** Ferris wheel, her big deal was just chasing her dreams, she's been a jockey her entire life, traveling to different countries, working here or there, doing exercise riding work. she's lived in France, new Zealand, Australia and is from England before coming here but i'm not going to sit here and say she was a pristine angle before meeting me i know my wife and she's a pretty woman. my point being though, settling down wasn't a priority for her in the 20's because of what she was doing she was having too much fun traveling and riding horses.

but she's not a dummie. she will never admit it but i am convinced she came here to settle down, at least in the back of her mind. I'm covinced of this beucase of the token resistance i got when i told her that she had to stop once Joe was born. she did it in the summer time when we lived in del mar but once we moved to monrovia she gave it up without a fight pretty much i guess she knew it was time to dos omething different. while she got here when she was 29, she's very exotic to american men..s he's tall, she plays up the brit accent, she's leggy and petite and she's got some class to her.and keep in mind she has been riding horses her entire life that's ****ing hard ass exercise so she is in great shape even now, so even at 29 she didn't look like most 29 year old women. but what she lost in age and the time window she made up in being different/exotic.. she has enough experience with men to know how american men in general react to her. so my point being, some women, have it easier than others, some men have it harder than others and visa versa

 

[st_99]

so i just read rollos blog post and christ its painful to read that stuff. its too try hard.

anywho, it sounds like he is saying girls want to ride the **** carousel in their prime and settle down with the best when they reach the other side of the sexual arc.

so knowing that helps me how exactly?

 

[betheman]

so i just read rollos blog post and christ its painful to read that stuff. its too try hard.

anywho, it sounds like he is saying girls want to ride the **** carousel in their prime and settle down with the best when they reach the other side of the sexual arc.

so knowing that helps me how exactly?

a woman will view you as a good settling deal, she has a grasp of power over you. forget this "men hold the relationship card", its balls! she will sell you a hot deal, grab it while you can because there is a queue!

 

[backbreaker]

so i just read rollos blog post and christ its painful to read that stuff. its too try hard.

anywho, it sounds like he is saying girls want to ride the **** carousel in their prime and settle down with the best when they reach the other side of the sexual arc.

so knowing that helps me how exactly?

i think you take for granted just how unplugged you and I are lol. this is revelations 4 horseman type **** for normal dudes. it really is.

I do honestly feel at times rollo gets a tad bit too techncial and some blogs i don't think are needed but overall it's a very well written blog and when he has a good subject he kills it.

 

[st_99]

i think you take for granted just how unplugged you and I are lol. this is revelations 4 horseman type **** for normal dudes. it really is.

I do honestly feel at times rollo gets a tad bit too techncial and some blogs i don't think are needed but overall it's a very well written blog and when he has a good subject he kills it.

lol, my comment on rollos writing style is a bit tongue in cheek but yeah, whenever i read stuff i always ask myself, ok cool, so how does this help me? and often i'll shrug and say.. not sure.

 

[Solomon]

lol, my comment on rollos writing style is a bit tongue in cheek but yeah, whenever i read stuff i always ask myself, ok cool, so how does this help me? and often i'll shrug and say.. not sure.

Critical thinking is a great aspect to have, while I may not agree with everything Rollo says in his blog, I have tremoundous respect for him cause he doesn't get butthurt like some other bloggers when you don't agree with his viewpoint. More guys need to read posts/articles and think to themselves what iis the author trying to convey? how can this help me in real life? etc

@Backbreaker a lot of women wanna slore around it is what it is

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear BackBreaker,
Your posts are so authentic...You have lived mate,but I humbly offer a few words of advice..." once we moved to monrovia she gave it up without a fight pretty much i guess she knew it was time to dos omething different.".....It has been my experience that this sort of Woman will revert to type when the Kids can stand on their own feet...just a flea in your ear old Son!

 

[backbreaker]

Dear BackBreaker,
Your posts are so authentic...You have lived mate,but I humbly offer a few words of advice..." once we moved to monrovia she gave it up without a fight pretty much i guess she knew it was time to dos omething different.".....It has been my experience that this sort of Woman will revert to type when the Kids can stand on their own feet...just a flea in your ear old Son!

she misses it, but she still rides in her spare time, but i mean, riding a retired horse around a trail is different than riding a 2YO thoroughbred on a race track going 40 miles per hour who spookes out at everything possible

yeah she's done with that. she's had a few injuries as well, broke her leg a few times, ankle, arm, sholder, **** just about everything lol. the last summer she was working she broke her wrist trying to break a fall off of a horse, i could tell she was just ready. she loves it though but there comes a point in every athletes career, pro or otherwise where you can love from the sideline lol

my real concern isn't her it's our son. she wsa already riding by his age and he likes horses, a lot. and he's tiny ,we've agreed to let him start taking riding lessons next year when he turns 5 but i'm hoping he hates it lol. he likes banging on my piano as well so hopefully he goes that route or basketball something that won't break his arm every other year

 

[haircare8h]

i will admit there are advantages to being a male in the sense, i could put off dating women while i worked on my business and not have any long term effects, but i couldn't do both at the same time and achieve the level of success i wanted to achieve with the business.

 

[YOUR BORING LIFE]

Feminism promises women the world, that all their dreams will come true. That they can ride the **** carousel throughout their peak sexual market value. That when the ride is over, there's going to be a nice beta provider waiting at the end for them.

Then the dream comes crashing down and the crushing suffocation of reality benights them with the ugly, bitter truth.

It's really quite cruel.

 

[betheman]

Feminism promises women the world, that all their dreams will come true. That they can ride the **** carousel throughout their peak sexual market value. That when the ride is over, there's going to be a nice beta provider waiting at the end for them.

Then the dream comes crashing down and the crushing suffocation of reality benights them with the ugly, bitter truth.

It's really quite cruel.

all too often there is more than one beta provider wiling in the wings