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My Plan (need help in parts)

jcb1772

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5'8 115 lbs.

That is how big I am right now, as a high school senior. It goes without explaining my motive for implementing a plan to gain weight in muscle (especially with college later this year). I am ready to embark on the slow but sure journey of physical improvement. :)

Below are some of my ideas on how to do so. I would love to have other's opinions about everything before I get on a routine.


WORKOUT REGIME:

This, by Effort, sounds like a good workout pattern to follow. Please correct me if this is not the right workout for someone my size. But this is what I'm going to aim to do, after figuring out how to do all the listed excersizes. MWF.

Question though: are there certain times of the day to workout better than others? I ask because shortly after school (3:30PM ish) is really my only shot, and I wanted to make sure there isn't something bad about this time.

Also, would a really skinny guy like myself benefit from before-school cardio (jogging)? I'm willing to do that when needed, but I have no idea if that would help.

DIET:

Ok, this is what I really need to work on. My current diet consists way too much of junk food and not enough essentials. So here's my basic plan for workout days, please let me know if there are things needed to be changed:

Breakfast (7AM): Boiled eggs, toast, orange juice (alternate toast with oatmeal, orange juice with fruit/milk)

Snack (10AM): Protein shake

School Lunch (12:30PM): Turkey sandwich, fruit, pasta/soup, salad (substitute turkey sandwich if main dish is good, aka beef/chicken)

Snack (3:10PM): Fruit (20 mins before workout. is this a good idea before workout? more food, no food, etc?)

Snack (5PM): Peanut butter crackers (lol this one is hard for me, because dinner is 2 hours away at most; I want to be hungry for that, yet I probably need something after working out. so better suggestions here would be great).

Dinner (7PM): Whatever my mom cooks (usually chicken, beef, or pork plus several vegetables and bread)

Snack (9:30PM): Protein shake (any better suggestions? I know carbs is a no)

For non-workout days, I will just combine the two middle snacks into one big after-school snack consisting of fruit and a peanut butter sandwich. Moreover, those days are liable to have a later dinner since I will probably have my job to work.



I will start my plan next week and continue to high school graduation in May, then perhaps implement a new regime for summer. Am I on track here?? Comments, reccomendations, etc would be much appreciated.
 

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Base your diet around ground beef, raw eggs, chicken and protein shakes. Make your protein shakes 40g of protein + 3 raw eggs, which roughly gives you 70-80g of protein per shake. Don't be afraid of raw eggs.

Have tuna and fish oil capsules (10+ of them) in your last meal, you're right for avoiding carbs in that one :)

You need a total of 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight, which = 230g in your case.

So a reasonable diet would be

meal 1: protein shake + raw eggs, apple
meal 2: ground beef + rice + veggies
meal 3: protein shake + raw eggs, apple
meal 4: ground beef/chicken + rice + veggies
meal 5: protein shake + raw eggs
meal 6: tuna + fish oil

monitor your weight as time goes along so you know if youre gaining weight or not

shaun
 

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That's more like it shaun :up:
Try to find a good gym that allows deadlifting. Or better yet find a powerlifting gym http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/gyms
It's important to get the big lifts right and a powerlifting gym will help you out.
 

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jcb1772 said:
5'8 115 lbs.

That is how big I am right now, as a high school senior. It goes without explaining my motive for implementing a plan to gain weight in muscle (especially with college later this year). I am ready to embark on the slow but sure journey of physical improvement. :)

Below are some of my ideas on how to do so. I would love to have other's opinions about everything before I get on a routine.


WORKOUT REGIME:

This, by Effort, sounds like a good workout pattern to follow. Please correct me if this is not the right workout for someone my size. But this is what I'm going to aim to do, after figuring out how to do all the listed excersizes. MWF.

PERFECT

Question though: are there certain times of the day to workout better than others? I ask because shortly after school (3:30PM ish) is really my only shot, and I wanted to make sure there isn't something bad about this time.

THAT IS FINE

Also, would a really skinny guy like myself benefit from before-school cardio (jogging)? I'm willing to do that when needed, but I have no idea if that would help.

YOU CAN TRY LIGHT JOGGING FOR 15-20 MINUTES 3 TIMES A WEEK. THIS MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. SOME PEOPLE CAN DO THIS AND SOME CANT. I EMPHASIZE THE WORD "JOG" NOT "RUN".
DIET:

Ok, this is what I really need to work on. My current diet consists way too much of junk food and not enough essentials. So here's my basic plan for workout days, please let me know if there are things needed to be changed:

Breakfast (7AM): Boiled eggs, toast, orange juice (alternate toast with oatmeal, orange juice with fruit/milk)

Snack (10AM): Protein shake

School Lunch (12:30PM): Turkey sandwich, fruit, pasta/soup, salad (substitute turkey sandwich if main dish is good, aka beef/chicken)

Snack (3:10PM): Fruit (20 mins before workout. is this a good idea before workout? more food, no food, etc?)

Snack (5PM): Peanut butter crackers (lol this one is hard for me, because dinner is 2 hours away at most; I want to be hungry for that, yet I probably need something after working out. so better suggestions here would be great).

Dinner (7PM): Whatever my mom cooks (usually chicken, beef, or pork plus several vegetables and bread)

Snack (9:30PM): Protein shake (any better suggestions? I know carbs is a no)

For non-workout days, I will just combine the two middle snacks into one big after-school snack consisting of fruit and a peanut butter sandwich. Moreover, those days are liable to have a later dinner since I will probably have my job to work.



I will start my plan next week and continue to high school graduation in May, then perhaps implement a new regime for summer. Am I on track here?? Comments, reccomendations, etc would be much appreciated.

SOME CHANGES MAY BE MADE BEFORE THEN, AND THE ROUTINE AS A WHOLE MAY NOT NEED CHANGED. THIS CAN ONLY BE KNOWN IN SIX MONTHS. QUESTIONS LIKE HOW FAR HAVE YOU PROGRESSED AND ARE YOU STILL PROGRESSING ARE IMPORTANT HERE.
Responses in BOLD. I left out diet as Shaun had it covered.

MAKE A LOG. That way we can help you better instead of you doing this half-assed and posting numerous threads about questions that are reasonably simple. Not saying this is bad, but it is much simpler and more appropriate in a log.

Good luck,

Quagmire
 

jcb1772

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Thanks for the comments guys.

meal 1: protein shake + raw eggs, apple
meal 2: ground beef + rice + veggies
meal 3: protein shake + raw eggs, apple
meal 4: ground beef/chicken + rice + veggies
meal 5: protein shake + raw eggs
meal 6: tuna + fish oil
So you suggest 3 protein shakes a day? If that is the case, is it better to have a protein shake before or after a workout?

Also I have never had canned tuna or fish oil. They don't look appetizing to me but I guess I will try them.

That's more like it shaun
Try to find a good gym that allows deadlifting. Or better yet find a powerlifting gym http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/gyms
It's important to get the big lifts right and a powerlifting gym will help you out.
I'm hoping to use the school gym, but I'm not sure if they allow that or not. If it turns out I need personal guidance, then I will sign up at a nearby gym with personal trainers which allows all of these excersizes.

MAKE A LOG. That way we can help you better instead of you doing this half-assed and posting numerous threads about questions that are reasonably simple. Not saying this is bad, but it is much simpler and more appropriate in a log.
Yeah, I intend to make a log once I get started with this. :)
 

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i can't imagine a high school gym trying to stop someone from deadlifting..... you pick up the bar, you put it down. just don't slam it down & everyone will be happy.
 

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jcb1772 said:
So you suggest 3 protein shakes a day? If that is the case, is it better to have a protein shake before or after a workout?
The shakes are there to increase the protein of the raw egg meals. You can have one before and after workout, but after workout is more important.

Also I have never had canned tuna or fish oil. They don't look appetizing to me but I guess I will try them.
Tuna is ok. Bland, but you just have to experiment with different recipes to give it some flavour. Fish oil shouldn't taste bad. My fish oil is lemon flavoured and is actually really nice. If you can't stand the flavour/texture, buy capsules instead, though they are more expensive.
 
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