My personal experience when it comes of being skynny or muscular

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So we talked much about muscles and how being bigger than others may help, so here my experience.

Will compare this last summer with summer 2013 since summer 2014 I was somewhere in the middle and had a gf so didnt hunt much.

During summer 2013 I was in good shape but nothing special, when dressed with normal clothes nobody would have say that I was working out, I was hard enough but surely didnt have muscle fullness, an average guy with some tone lets say.

This last summer I became quite different after the previous 6 months of hard training, it is obvious wearing a t-shirt that I lift, even with a sweater I had both guys and girls grabbing my arms to feel them, back and arms grew considerably.

Amazing how just approx 10kgs (22 pounds), 90% of which are muscle can change the frame of a man.

Height 180cm (5'11) moving from 74kg (163) to 84 (185) approx, also keep in mind Im using pump supplements now so the days I train I look much fuller for the whole night.

Now lets talk about the results which Im sure will surprise most of you.

So in terms of cold approches I had a much higher success ratio when I was skinny, not sure why, either cause I look more intimidating or they take for granted that a guy that lifts is more arrogant and superficial, which actually is true since I changed also in taste and priorities.

On the opposite side, the girls which I already knew shown a much high interest in the bigger version of myself, girls with which I was just flirting came and rubbed their asses on my croach giving me green light to escalate, girls that needed few drinks to get intimate where then taking initiative by themselves.

Girls introduced to me from friends were much more prone to show interest and being talkactive, talking about sex topics came faster and from their side.

So if it wasnt for other factors I would say that muscles surely made me more attractive but at the same time gave girls the idea that Im somehow dangerous or arrogant or simply superficial or not interested in anything more than sex thus complicating my attempts.

Im also considering other factors like different clothes I wear and a different body language, a stronger body makes you subconsciously more confident but at the same time less concerned about being accepted.

Could be also the case that I was two years older or the skinny version looked younger.

The group of girls I mostly dealt with were aged 18-25 with few late 20s.

When it comes of guys I get much more credit in the bigger version, no jokes or disrespect but acknowledge of the fact that I play in the strong guys team altought in the lower league, that alone was a good satisfaction worth the effort in the gym also because women notice how mean interact with each other and buy the hierarchy.
 

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Well I'm 185 and used to be 95kg with a lot of muscle, which mostly was at torso&legs though (big gut). I have a babyface.
Now I still work out the same but cut the diet down so I'm at 87kg - changed my life. I am a bit slimmer, but you can't really see it if I'm not wearing fitting clothing. The main thing is my face - it's now alot sharper and more defined.

I eve get cold approached by girls every now and then ... I also mostly don't get rejected anymore. Which is a weird situation, because hotties will agree on dates then turn cold straight after. I wish they would just tell me instead of faking interest. But well, I guess I did make it to the next level, keep fighting ;)

So yeah, if you're already bigger than average - SLIM DOWN. I know alot of guys here don't want to hear it - but don't hate if you don't try. 6 months of strict diet should do it.
 

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Allow me to use this from the great Book of Pook

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I started out around 155 pounds at 6’3 height. This meant that I was very skinny. I was also considered a nice looking guy. Women loved me being tall. At this point, I had to deal with a lot of fat chicks hitting on me. These girls were BIG and I wanted nothing to do with them. Ugly girls also would come to me. This was me not doing anything. This was what my body was attracting all alone. If Iwanted to get a cuter girl, I had to work for it.I have problems talking to women, not because I am scared or boring, but becauseI sense the women think I am ‘below’ them. And the truth is that they do.I date average women.

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Already, things have changed. The fat/ugly women still go for me but they don’t think I’m as easy. They want to enter oneitis with me. The ‘unworthy’ girls category would now all be staring at me. To the beautiful women, I’m just a typical guy.Cute girls now enjoy talking to me.I still date average women and now some cute women

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“You are looking very good,” my older female manager told me. The fat/ugly women no longer hit on me (thank goodness!) and people (out of the blue) are asking why I don’t have a girlfriend. Average girls are beginning to stare.I date only cute women with some very attractive ones mixed in.

185
Average girls are now hitting on me. Very attractive women are checking me out. At this stage, every woman is happy to talk to me. They all secretly wonder if I’m gay.I date more very attractive women but still have the cute ones.

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OK, when you don’t have a girlfriend at this stage, the ladies will whisper, “Is hegay?” all the time. One girl got bold about it and asked me point blankly,“Pook,you are cute and all. So why don’t you have a girlfriend?” I was stunned by herbluntness (rare among women).Average women consider me out of their league. Cute ones try to become my‘friend’.I date only very attractive women. Beautiful women are still a bit of an anomalie.

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When you get to this stage, something very strange happens. All the attention andstaring women gave you is gone (mostly). Ugly/Fat women will despise you as willthe average women. Most girls will be scared of you (cute girls, very attractive girls).
 

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That article by Pook is sheer fiction.
 

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So we talked much about muscles and how being bigger than others may help, so here my experience.

Will compare this last summer with summer 2013 since summer 2014 I was somewhere in the middle and had a gf so didnt hunt much.

During summer 2013 I was in good shape but nothing special, when dressed with normal clothes nobody would have say that I was working out, I was hard enough but surely didnt have muscle fullness, an average guy with some tone lets say.

This last summer I became quite different after the previous 6 months of hard training, it is obvious wearing a t-shirt that I lift, even with a sweater I had both guys and girls grabbing my arms to feel them, back and arms grew considerably.

Amazing how just approx 10kgs (22 pounds), 90% of which are muscle can change the frame of a man.

Height 180cm (5'11) moving from 74kg (163) to 84 (185) approx, also keep in mind Im using pump supplements now so the days I train I look much fuller for the whole night.

Now lets talk about the results which Im sure will surprise most of you.

So in terms of cold approches I had a much higher success ratio when I was skinny, not sure why, either cause I look more intimidating or they take for granted that a guy that lifts is more arrogant and superficial, which actually is true since I changed also in taste and priorities.

On the opposite side, the girls which I already knew shown a much high interest in the bigger version of myself, girls with which I was just flirting came and rubbed their asses on my croach giving me green light to escalate, girls that needed few drinks to get intimate where then taking initiative by themselves.

Girls introduced to me from friends were much more prone to show interest and being talkactive, talking about sex topics came faster and from their side.

So if it wasnt for other factors I would say that muscles surely made me more attractive but at the same time gave girls the idea that Im somehow dangerous or arrogant or simply superficial or not interested in anything more than sex thus complicating my attempts.

Im also considering other factors like different clothes I wear and a different body language, a stronger body makes you subconsciously more confident but at the same time less concerned about being accepted.

Could be also the case that I was two years older or the skinny version looked younger.

The group of girls I mostly dealt with were aged 18-25 with few late 20s.

When it comes of guys I get much more credit in the bigger version, no jokes or disrespect but acknowledge of the fact that I play in the strong guys team altought in the lower league, that alone was a good satisfaction worth the effort in the gym also because women notice how mean interact with each other and buy the hierarchy.
I reckon your attitude towards the girls changed. You were probably indifferent towards women whom you still needed to build up interest.
 
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