My life as the "Invisible Man"

Ricky

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I hate to make posts where I complain or do the old "Woe is Me", but it seems like I go through cycles where I get good attention from women (they check me out), and then go into total "Invisible Man" mode where as the name suggests, no girls even take a first glance let alone a second glance at me.

The only thing I can make of this, is that my looks are borderline and the difference is when I dress better. Yet I hear from my girlfriend and some other girls that I am actually quite handsome.

Is there anything you all can suggest on how to break out of this. I guess the other big area is body language. If I am having a bad day maybe my posture isn't as good and that hurts me.

It drives me crazy. Time to get some new clothes I guess. I workout all the time, but am a hardgainer (after 7 plus years, I have a good body with my shirt off, but look like an average joe with clothes on)
 

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Why do you want attention from women so much?

I think it kind of gets annoying, especially if you are trying to do something, and they try to make your mind...uh...wander...
 

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Why are you worried about them checking you out? You should be finding and approaching them; who cares what they do when you walk by...





Originally posted by Ricky
I hate to make posts where I complain or do the old "Woe is Me", but it seems like I go through cycles where I get good attention from women (they check me out), and then go into total "Invisible Man" mode where as the name suggests, no girls even take a first glance let alone a second glance at me.

The only thing I can make of this, is that my looks are borderline and the difference is when I dress better. Yet I hear from my girlfriend and some other girls that I am actually quite handsome.

Is there anything you all can suggest on how to break out of this. I guess the other big area is body language. If I am having a bad day maybe my posture isn't as good and that hurts me.

It drives me crazy. Time to get some new clothes I guess. I workout all the time, but am a hardgainer (after 7 plus years, I have a good body with my shirt off, but look like an average joe with clothes on)
 

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Ricky, I struggle with this problem sometimes, but like the other answers to your question said, who cares if they're looking at you or not. I don't really care anymore. Usually I just go about my business. If a woman is really interested in you, she'll go out of here way to get your attention. If she doesn't...... keep your toes tappin! There's a lot of women out there.
John
 

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I was talking to Deep Dish about this the other day.

It seems most guys go through the same thing. It's either all or nothing.

This attests to the power of non-verbal cues. I doubt it is just a coincidence this happens this way. It must have something to do with the signals or attitude you throw off when you have plenty of options.

Don't really know what to tell you here.....there isn't a magic bullet.
 

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all i have to say is that you can be the best looking guy in the place and have all the girls looking at you, but that doesn't mean ****! so don't worry about it. You should count yourself lucky that you are not a hot guy in the eyes of women. You can walk down the street and know that you are the man. Any girl that is interested in you is worthy because she won't be interested in your body or the way you dress. Being average looking is a test in itself to the stature of a real man. who do you think is more of a man? the guy with the looks that has a girl or the average guy that has a girl? If you are the man you don't need looks! In fact good women don't get along well with pretty guys that try to impress women. if you are the man you don't have to impress women they have to impress you. try walking through the mall someday and look at woman as the inferior for a while. This will help you take control of this situation.

if you're still ****ed up I suggest 2 years in the military. That will get you off your ass and make realize what it means to be a real man.
 

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Funny---I remember the invisible thing and other variations.

Remember this one?

You are single and NO girl pays attention to you.

Period.

But--!! You get a GF and--I shyt you not--every fvcking 8.5+ chick walking down the godd@mn street and her 9.2 friend both--yes! both!--STOP and blatantly check you out!

You--of course--not wanting to get caught gawking by your GF, try not to notice. The self control this takes is of Oscar-winning caliber, and by that measure, I've earned countless Oscars...

...but inside you clench both fists and silently scream one thing: WTF!!!!!

Later, when you calm down and think back on it, you clench both fists and actually scream WTF!!!!

15 years later, I still clench both fists and randomly scream in public "WTF!!!!"

Freaks people out.

Ok---just kidding there, but after being here, I understand it differently. I look at how clueless I was then and I look at myself and say "WTF?--jeezus, buddy...you were such a clueless fvck it is unbelievable!"

Ok, let's get down to it.

Invisibility is a related phenomenon. I can't convince you that what you're experiencing is a subjective experience (of course, by definition it is a subjective experience, but that's just low-value semantics...) YOU will have to go out and re-work your perceptions and see reality more clearly.

Simple experiment:

Step into a room at work where a number of people are gathered. Many of them seem engaged and don't seem to notice you.

But you are aware and instantly categorize EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the room before 3.5 seconds have elapsed.

Guess what?

Everyone else there is aware and have categorized EVERY SINGLE PERSON in that room in the same way and the same amount of time that you just did. That is, if you're aware of them, they're aware of you on some level, and that level is probably the same as the one you're on. You thinking that you're invisible is a skewed and subjective interpretation, but, in reality, they are aware of your presence and have slotted you somewhere--just as you have done to them.

If you're looking for overt signs of "I'm being noticed"---this is important when you've just improved yourself and need some re-inforcing feedback (completely natural), but that passes after awhile. You can just assume you've been noted. Don't hang onto the need for that type of notice too long or you become an attention wh0re of sorts ("I wanna get a reaction! I need a reaction!..or else I don't exist!")

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What is actually going on is a deeper, more complex interaction between you and the rest of people in the room. Focusing on "noticing you" is a less mature and sophisticated means of judging the situation than what you're cappable of doing.

You're noticed. Realize it. You're not getting the obvious feedback about it, that's not what's at issue here. You have to dig deeper and pay attention more to the subtler clues. You're ready for it, too.

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Random notes:

You work out but this doesn't show in the clothes you wear--???

This is ass-backwards in my experience. Usually physical self-improvement means that it will show up first in the clothes you wear since most clothing is deeply imbued with the need to cover flaws and show your form in a more flattering light. This is nearly universal in fashion (Mao jackets notwhithstanding..)--it is meant to enhance what's there or hide flaws and give the impression of good stuff underneath.

I can (and have) lose 25 lbs and look stunning in clothes. I even look good stripped, but not as good as I do in clothes since what flaws I have are not covered. If you look great stripped---(don't bytch, first...)---you SHOULD look unreal in clothes.

Examine the clothes you wear (as you noted.)

Let me offer this: if you're young, fashion is everything. People (the younger the more so, the more female the more so...) are herd animals in this respect. To be fashionable is very important: you wear what everyone else your age wears. I did it. And if that fashion happens to not to flatter your figure--you don't notice or think of it--you wear the fashion and think you look good.

Try to step out of that and find what simply looks good on you. If you've worked out and have a good figure, especially if it looks good w/o clothes, I guarantee you that the classic designs will make you look like a fvcking greek god. If what you wear doesn't do that now--my guess is you wear whatever comes out of the Gap or Banana Republic or Abercrombie or who-the-fvck-knows what trendy place you've been to.

You're not invisible--that's just subjective perception. You probably don't look bad in clothes, you just need to think for yourself on this--and the women will notice when you do.
 

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you sound like a needy person who cares about ego.
 

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Good stuff Red. I think almost everyone goes through this invisibility stage. H*ll, that's why everyone wants to be a movie star or be Mr. Popular. Only one with great self-esteem doesn't care about obtaining that. I used to feel invisible too when I was younger, and yeah it hurts. Everybody wants to be popular when they were younger. Everybody wants to be a "somebody." But you know, when you get older, you don't give a rat *ss anymore.

And another thing, I forgot who was my school-voted Most Popular in my high school because I don't give a d*mn about him/her. Don't put such a huge weight on being popular or well acknowledge, because most of the time it is very short-lived.
 
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