My flake count is 5 in a row now. Gosh

[Dole]

Girl's keep flaking on me and its becoming frustrating. I can't figure out what it is seriously. It's not my physical features for sure, but i am doing something wrong! All these three of these girls are HB8+, Here are the last three examples:
1)
Went to the club, this girl that used to be a shooter girl got her boobs done and come's out of nowhere throws her self at me. She asks me if I want a tittie shot and I said "no thank you but your boobs have grown". She's like yeah I have been drinking alot of milk. Next thing she tells me she wants to have babies with me. I took her number down and told her I will give her a call, this was on a thursday. So I called her sunday around 3, thinking she would be up by now because she probably works saturday night. I give her a call she pick's up.
me: Hey hows it going?
her: Good just sleeping, who is this?
me: Its Dole,
her: Oh hey Dole, I am just sleeping right now how about I give you a call when I get up
me: No it's alright I will give you a call later
So I call her later that night, she dont pick up and I send her a text hey its dole give me a shout when you get this
Never heard from her since. Went to that club two weeks later she wasn't working but she was there, she was staring at me the whole time, I didn't wanna say hi, neither did she.
2)
Met this chickie at the bar, long story short she didn't wanna give out her number but she said to add her to facebook and she told me where she works and that I should come down for a few drinks at her work on friday. Few days later I had her to facebook.
Me:
Hey whats up?
I hope everything is well.
I can't come to your work this friday, I have plans but if you let me know what your schedule is like I could let you know when I could stop by so we have a few drinks!
Talk to you later
her:
Hey everything is great thanks How are you? Thats cool. I work Sat night too if you want to come by
Me:
I am good thanks!
Friday/Saturday I am always busy it sucks.
Do you have any week day shifts?
her:
no we are just open on the weekends. But I work at a different club during the week that will be opening Canada day so stay posted haha. called crazy horse
Next day I am at the club, she passes by me hammered out of her mind and I pull her by the arm to say hi, and she's like hello and walks away... I am guessing she didn't recognize me because she was so drunk.
the next day i reply to her message on facebook:
Ive heard of crazy horse, they closed down while ago. How about we meet up for some drink's on a weekday then?
No reply from her
3)
I was at my cousin's house, he was getting hammered with a few friends and two girls. Him and one of the girl's that where there have a thing for each other but they can't hook up because of some reason's that he doesn't want to tell me. So I ended up flirting with her and the other two girl's, taking pictures of them making out, doing tittie shots, doing some sex positions or what ever. I ended up leaving to go to the club. Next day on purpose I left comment on my cousin's facebook page because I knew she would read it and if she did she would add me to facebook if she was interested. Well three or four days later I have a friend request from her.
So I message her on facebook:
me:
Hey whats up?
I hope everything is well =).
I have been around you twice now and you seem like a very fun girl. I want to take you out for a drink!
her:
Hey sweety,
Not to much just been working, you??
I am lol your seem lik you need a crazy spontaneous night, your so quiet..are you always like that??
Yea absolutely lets I leave for Dominican not this fri but next so it best be soon!!!
me:
I am just chillen enjoying my break from school. Yeah I do need a crazy night, I just been taking it easy on drinking because of my birthday which was a complete mess! I am not quiet it just seemed that way because I was sober and you were a little tipsy both times =).
I am free sunday night, does that work for you?
her:
Awhh I see well you'll have to prove me wrong lol
Yea it could be I was a lil tipsy but Im usually always energetic..
Sunday it is! 6xx-xxxx give me a shout or txt
This was on a thursday. Over the weekend I didn't text her or call her at all [because i am a busy right???]. Sunday morning I log on to facebook and she was online. Facebook has a live chat feature, so I messaged her, I asked her how her weekend is she said well, then she asked me what I was doing i said just taking a break from doing an assignment. I asked her if we are still on for tonight she said she got called into work and she has some running around to do after work and maybe she can go out for a few drinks. I said well I have to go and that I will give her a call later tonight. I gave her a call and left her a voicemail she never called me back.
Fvcking cvnt's


Anyone have any advice. I broke up with my gf about two week's ago and now i am 5/5 date flakes.
:flowers:

 

[DonGorgon]

Your verbal game is inadequate to make them want to see you.. they have many many other option you are competing with and those guys are beating you every time...

You cant eliminate flaking and BS completely but you can learn to reduce it by being more flirty suggestive and make a date when you meet them...

 

[lookyoung]

Don't take flaking personal, its part of the game. These girls that are flaking on you have 25 guys they could call at any given time and have sex with them at the drop of a dime. That is why flaking is so common. Imagine if you had 25 brauds just waiting to fvck you. you would be flaking on woman left and right.

The key is interest level. This is what eliminates flakes. If a girl sees you as rare and a catch than this will reduce the chances of flaking. Woman at the early stages of the relationships can be more picky and choosy than we could be, because they have more OPTIONS than we do.

Don't worry about the flakes just work on yourself. Workout, Work on your style, and have goals and passions in life and everything else will take care of itself.

 

[Prodigy746]

I think 1'st and 3'rd girl you could have f closed. I think you need to be more flirtatious when you meet them. Shes asking you if you want a tittie shot so thats you chance to get some real good kino in. Thats my guess at what could be your problem.

 

[SayWord?]

wheres the other 2 flakes

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Don't take flaking personal, its part of the game. These girls that are flaking on you have 25 guys they could call at any given time and have sex with them at the drop of a dime. That is why flaking is so common. Imagine if you had 25 brauds just waiting to fvck you. you would be flaking on woman left and right.

The key is interest level. This is what eliminates flakes. If a girl sees you as rare and a catch than this will reduce the chances of flaking. Woman at the early stages of the relationships can be more picky and choosy than we could be, because they have more OPTIONS than we do.

Don't worry about the flakes just work on yourself. Workout, Work on your style, and have goals and passions in life and everything else will take care of itself.

good post

To build off what was said You have no idea what is going on in these girl's lives, so you need to give them a reason to want to be with you again. What will they tell their friends when they ask who you are? Will you be "the guy who put his arm around me when I was drunk" or will you be "the guy who I have so much in common with and i'm waiting by the phone for"?

I've been there man, it comes down to the effort you are willing to put in. In my journal I got madddd flakes coz I just rushed the seduction aspect and the getting them interested part. So either
a) slow down and get the girls interested
b) look for girls already interested (like girl #1) and take advantage QUICKLY. Strike while the iron is hot, blah blah

 

[Effington]

I'm going with Prodigy on this one. Yeah, it's nice to chat up a girl, and if you're cordial, most will give you their number, but to get legitimately high interest you need to escalate kino. In layman's terms, women are all about what they feel and their emotions, blah blah blah, and kino is what triggers that for them.

 

[vonbock]

dole: gosh, you really opened my eyes here. I am the old fashioned nerd and thought all the girls in the clubs would never like a guy like me and I am just to be used. Now I realized even good looking experienced guys like yourself are going through the same problems with club chicks. I always thought the good looking guys in the clubs get all the chicks.

 

[frisco]

your letting them dictate your value, you took to long to talk to the girl with tits, you said you would call her later instead of vice versa, you let the other girl say that you need a night out and you were like yah i do. When you call you should always have something interesting to say storie or such. not just hey how you doing its way too generic. Be more spontanous and not so generic in my opinion.

 

[Dole]

Your verbal game is inadequate to make them want to see you.. they have many many other option you are competing with and those guys are beating you every time...

You cant eliminate flaking and BS completely but you can learn to reduce it by being more flirty suggestive and make a date when you meet them...

I just been thinking about my past girl's I landed date's with and I have always said something that made them say 'awww'. So yes I need to work on this.

Don't worry about the flakes just work on yourself. Workout, Work on your style, and have goals and passions in life and everything else will take care of itself.

Will do

I think 1'st and 3'rd girl you could have f closed. I think you need to be more flirtatious when you meet them. Shes asking you if you want a tittie shot so thats you chance to get some real good kino in. Thats my guess at what could be your problem.

Sh1t I totally missed that one, I wasn't really expecting her to give me my number nore did I ask for it. She came off as typical bar employee wanting to advertise her tits and make you buy a shooter from her. If she came off saying she wants to have my babies first then yeah for sure I would do a tittie shot with her, but it just seemed like she was trying to pick pocket me lol.

To build off what was said You have no idea what is going on in these girl's lives, so you need to give them a reason to want to be with you again. What will they tell their friends when they ask who you are? Will you be "the guy who put his arm around me when I was drunk" or will you be "the guy who I have so much in common with and i'm waiting by the phone for"?

I've been there man, it comes down to the effort you are willing to put in. In my journal I got madddd flakes coz I just rushed the seduction aspect and the getting them interested part. So either
a) slow down and get the girls interested
b) look for girls already interested (like girl #1) and take advantage QUICKLY. Strike while the iron is hot, blah blah

Part b) I have no problem with. This girl (from #1) actually went to high school with me lol but she was two years younger then me... So I didn't think the iron was going to cool off that quick after she gave me the number that's why I called her sunday. But oh well.
So do you have any examples I could read for part a)? Is your journal good on seduction and raising the interest level?

Kino = kinesthetics (the ability to feel movements of the limbs and body)

He can't even get them on a first date past getting the number.

Kino should be built properly during confrontation.

what he said

I also suggest improving your flirting game, although this should be done strictly when in person, rather than over text.

My flirting SUCKS with random girls at the bar and strangers COMPLETELY.
I have no problem with flirting when I go on a date with her and sh1t like that. Landing a date with a stranger is the hard part for me, really hard and that's the aspect I am trying to work on mostly.

dole: gosh, you really opened my eyes here. I am the old fashioned nerd and thought all the girls in the clubs would never like a guy like me and I am just to be used. Now I realized even good looking experienced guys like yourself are going through the same problems with club chicks. I always thought the good looking guys in the clubs get all the chicks.

I am guessing you have seen a picture of me when I posted it in one of the threads? I am living proof that there is more to getting girls then physical features. And that you need to know the rules of the engagement

your letting them dictate your value, you took to long to talk to the girl with tits, you said you would call her later instead of vice versa, you let the other girl say that you need a night out and you were like yah i do. When you call you should always have something interesting to say storie or such. not just hey how you doing its way too generic. Be more spontanous and not so generic in my opinion.

Taken to heart and will do with next girl.
:cheer:

Overview:
1) More flirting
2) Better verbal game so I stand out for the girl to recognize [I suck at this with strangers and need a lot of pointers, anyone know of a good journal?]
3) Kino when we first meet [already know this one but I need to be more sexual then like somehow getting to the point where I slap her as$ that night ]
4) Not let them dictate my value
5) Have a fun or interesting story to talk about (like my weekend story's) when I give them a call.
:rockon:

 

[Dole]

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[Dole]

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god i fvcking bullsh1t i fvcking hate the fvcking reply feature on this board. It asks me every time to log in and then it delete's what I wrote because it says invalid thread. Argh so mad right now

The other 2 flakes
long story short [since I lost 30 minutes of typing them up and them getting deleted]
4) I fvcked her when I was 18 she was 16. Never called her after that. Ran into her picture on facebook started talking to her again. She flakes on our first date but wants to reschedule, second date her phone was off that day so I gave up, I ran into her at the club she wanted to do something the next day I was busy and said I will give her a shout later. So today I texted her saying
me:
Hey how's it going?
It was good seeing you thursday.
her:
Hey yea haha it was a suprise haha. Haven't seen you in like years. Then all of a sudden haha.
me:
You seemed familiar so I wasn't sure if it was you or not. You looked good
no reply.
5) I was certain that girl #5 was going to flake on me today, but she didn't. Success story I could go into full detail but I don't feel like typing it all up. we ended up going to sheesha lounge for our date. When I drove her home she hugged me good night and kissed me on the cheek at the same time I put my hand around her neck and we started making out. Got to feel her big round boobies under the bra and massaged her downstairs over the pants lol.

 

[jcap]

you nerd. no girls want to date you

end of thread

 

[Dole]

you nerd. no girls want to date you

end of thread

Shut it, VIRGIN.

 

[vonbock]

hello dole,
Brings up a question. Did you try any of the ****y and funny routine everyone here hypes up about? It seems a certain group of people say use CnF but another group says no, don't act funny if you are not, but be a man and don't let a girl walk over you.

 

[Dole]

I can't pull off CnF with a random stranger.

I am good at CnF on dates and I pull them off easily and alot of them. For example on my date last night she asked me what's the most stupidest thing I have ever done, which I replied to Went on a date with you with a big smile on my face, she found it really funny and punched me. So yes CnF's do work very well but I am still exploring the turf of doing it to a random person when I just meet them.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

When girls give me the runaround I pretty much diss them right back no matter what.Even if she wants to keep talking sooner or latter the get back comes and I stand them up.

You did the right thing with the first chic..just move on.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Another thing is dont just follow your **** unless your **** is rock hard..

Dont go after chics you dont really want..Girls do that to see if you really want them..

 

[Telos]

Sounds like you have good looks yet happen to be a little shy. They are probably expecting you to be a well versed extrovert but when engage end up pulling away because your demeanor is not what they expected.

 

[suavesuave]

Thats not flake. Flake is when someone cancels at the last moment.