My failed experiment of living abroad, reflections

[DreamAgain]

If an American male is to go to Europe to try to improve mating outcomes, it must be Eastern Europe and not a Western European city like London. The mating environment in London is not much different than a large USA city. The only thing London has going for it is foot traffic, which helps for random street approaching. There's a reason why it is called the "London Daygame Model", which is a street approaching based system.

Roosh called street game the most difficult venue hands down back in 2012.

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I actually believe only the bigger cities in the west are worth it for foreigners.

The Eastern European countries have become no different, and are simply economically unviable for long term serious living. Corruption is too widespread into everyday life, medical care is pitiful, air and food quality are low, cost of living adjusted for wages is really viable only for people working for western salaries and western companies.

The main goal of young women is to be an instagram influencer, of men to be some sort of rapper/athlete/fitness influencer. Or miscellaneous businessman who flaunts wealth on social media.

This is not a healthy society by any means.

 

[SW15]

I actually believe only the bigger cities in the west are worth it for foreigners.

The Eastern European countries have become no different, and are simply economically unviable for long term serious living. Corruption is too widespread into everyday life, medical care is pitiful, air and food quality are low, cost of living adjusted for wages is really viable only for people working for western salaries and western companies.

The main goal of young women is to be an instagram influencer, of men to be some sort of rapper/athlete/fitness influencer. Or miscellaneous businessman who flaunts wealth on social media.

This is not a healthy society by any means.

The book on Europe has been that Eastern Europe is the place for USA/Western European men to go to escape the mating crapholes of Western cultures. Roosh spent many years in Poland in the 2010s for instance.

Within the USA, it's been common for Millennials raised in smaller towns to go to bigger cities once they reach adulthood.

 

[pipeman84]

The Eastern European countries have become no different, and are simply economically unviable for long term serious living. Corruption is too widespread into everyday life, medical care is pitiful, air and food quality are low, cost of living adjusted for wages is really viable only for people working for western salaries and western companies.

You must've traveled back in time and write this from 1993.

The main goal of young women is to be an instagram influencer, of men to be some sort of rapper/athlete/fitness influencer.

You misspelled hoes and morons.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

I'm going to assume you are well intentioned, but, unless you spent a significant time in such a place, alone, in the year 2023, you are speaking out of ignorance.

A little bit is obviously on me, I failed to integrate properly with the locals because the differences like I mentioned are just too vast. But I believe it is more on the environment, it is not conducive for "foreigners" to put it simply. It is not a large, cosmopolitan city with many immigrants like London.

There is a weird tendency on SS to say "the problem is you" whenever someone talks about moving. Like you can control the job market, weather, or local customs. IMO if a person doesn't like where they live and wants to take a chance somewhere else, go for it. Nothing wrong with taking a calculated risk, you gave it a shot and it didn't pan out.

 

[DreamAgain]

You must've traveled back in time and write this from 1993.

You misspelled hoes and morons.

I see your location is Europe so you're being a bit sensitive about this...feel free to go to another thread if you have nothing to contribute of substance.

 

[DreamAgain]

There is a weird tendency on SS to say "the problem is you" whenever someone talks about moving. Like you can control the job market, weather, or local customs. IMO if a person doesn't like where they live and wants to take a chance somewhere else, go for it. Nothing wrong with taking a calculated risk, you gave it a shot and it didn't pan out.

It's their little man syndrome of some sort, feeling good when you can put someone else down on the internet.

 

[SW15]

This is not a healthy society by any means.

The most unhealthy places are in Western nations.

I remember reading internet content as far back as the 2000s about Western men leaving for Eastern Europe, Asia, or Latin America to get into healthier mating environments.

The main goal of young women is to be an instagram influencer, of men to be some sort of rapper/athlete/fitness influencer. Or miscellaneous businessman who flaunts wealth on social media.

You forgot OnlyFans for women. Women like getting big followings on Instagram and some women like getting a boatload of simps to give them money on OnlyFans.

Remember this woman? She's now 40. She makes far more money showing off her breasts and butt on OnlyFans and Instagram than she made running a house cleaning company.

Post wall average 39 year old woman making 500K a year on OnlyFans for mild content...sad state of men

So disgraceful dudes are that thirsty these days they would pay to see mild content from an average looking post wall 39 year old woman... What the hell is wrong with these dudes? https://news.yahoo.com/meet-family-behind-texas-thighs-083012479.html

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There is a weird tendency on SS to say "the problem is you" whenever someone talks about moving. Like you can control the job market, weather, or local customs. IMO if a person doesn't like where they live and wants to take a chance somewhere else, go for it. Nothing wrong with taking a calculated risk, you gave it a shot and it didn't pan out.

There are situations where there's not a good fit between a person and a certain city. It happened to me with my first post-college city in the 2000s.

 

[DreamAgain]

The book on Europe has been that Eastern Europe is the place for USA/Western European men to go to escape the mating crapholes of Western cultures. Roosh spent many years in Poland in the 2010s for instance.

Within the USA, it's been common for Millennials raised in smaller towns to go to bigger cities once they reach adulthood.

To be frank, Roosh is a charlatan who shouldn't be taken seriously for really anything.

 

[DreamAgain]

The most unhealthy places are in Western nations.



You forgot OnlyFans for women. Women like getting big followings on Instagram and some women like getting a boatload of simps to give them money on OnlyFans.

Remember this woman? She's now 40. She makes far more money showing off her breasts and butt on OnlyFans and Instagram than she made running a house cleaning company.

Post wall average 39 year old woman making 500K a year on OnlyFans for mild content...sad state of men

So disgraceful dudes are that thirsty these days they would pay to see mild content from an average looking post wall 39 year old woman... What the hell is wrong with these dudes? https://news.yahoo.com/meet-family-behind-texas-thighs-083012479.html

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You can go to some of these other places and see for yourself, a plane ticket is not that much.

There is not much difference between Western and "Eastern" besides some tropes involving culture wars. The fundamentals, meaning the effects of the digitization of the world, of the shift to capitalism and its implications, have made the world overall pretty homogenous.

I cannot speak for Asia as I haven't been.

 

[SW15]

To be frank, Roosh is a charlatan who shouldn't be taken seriously for really anything.

Did you consider Roosh a charlatan before his Christianity conversion? I was referring to pre-Christianity conversion Roosh.

I think Roosh was traumatized by losing his younger sister to cancer.

Roosh did take a big step in life leaving his microbiologist job in the USA to become a full time pickup artist and blogger/content creator surrounding sexual topics.

You can go to some of these other places and see for yourself, a plane ticket is not that much.

There is not much difference between Western and "Eastern" besides some tropes involving culture wars. The fundamentals, meaning the effects of the digitization of the world, of the shift to capitalism and its implications, have made the world overall pretty homogenous.

I do not plan to travel to Europe any time soon. I also think that there is a massive effort in the West to replace capitalism with socialism.

 

[DreamAgain]

Did you consider Roosh a charlatan before his Christianity conversion? I was referring to pre-Christianity conversion Roosh.

I think Roosh was traumatized by losing his younger sister to cancer.

Roosh did take a big step in life leaving his microbiologist job in the USA to become a full time pickup artist and blogger/content creator surrounding sexual topics.



I do not plan to travel to Europe any time soon. I also think that there is a massive effort in the West to replace capitalism with socialism.

He was a grifter who found a niche and exploited it, his occupation was selling desperate men false hope. I have zero respect for him.

 

[SW15]

desperate men false hope.

There are a lot of desperate men out there. Male thirst has exploded in the last 20 years. A lot of desperate men are the men who leave Western nations to get pusssy in Eastern Europe, Asia, or Latin America. There are Western men besides desperate men who look to leave their Western homelands, but desperate men are a big part of the group of Western men who expat.

Pre-menopausal Western women typically don't expat to find penis.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Wherever you go: there you are.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

It's their little man syndrome of some sort, feeling good when you can put someone else down on the internet.

I don't know about that. I think it's just a point of view. I get that everyone should work on himself and think about what the source of any kind of ennui or depression is. But sometimes it's where you live. I'd rather take a stick in the eye than stay where I grew up.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I moved to a different city and I made most of my f

There are a lot of desperate men out there. Male thirst has exploded in the last 20 years. A lot of desperate men are the men who leave Western nations to get pusssy in Eastern Europe, Asia, or Latin America. There are Western men besides desperate men who look to leave their Western homelands, but desperate men are a big part of the group of Western men who expat.

Pre-menopausal Western women typically don't expat to find penis.

Alpha Widowed women will put their own lives on pause or standby for a certain type of dude that gives them the fuzzies. Men will put their own lives in submission to a foreign government and woman to find feminine pvssy lol.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I'm going to assume you are well intentioned, but, unless you spent a significant time in such a place, alone, in the year 2023, you are speaking out of ignorance.

A little bit is obviously on me, I failed to integrate properly with the locals because the differences like I mentioned are just too vast. But I believe it is more on the environment, it is not conducive for "foreigners" to put it simply. It is not a large, cosmopolitan city with many immigrants like London.

Ever hear the expression "When in Rome, do as the Romans do?"

If you failed to integrate in any way, then it's almost all on you.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Ever hear the expression "When in Rome, do as the Romans do?"

If you failed to integrate in any way, then it's almost all on you.

What if it wasn't the right fit for OP? The biggest social divide between humans is urban vs rural tbh.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

What if it wasn't the right fit for OP? The biggest social divide between humans is urban vs rural tbh.

Adapt or die.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Human beings have migrated since they could walk upright. It's part of adapting. There would be no one in the Americas if people just stayed put.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Human beings have migrated since they could walk upright. It's part of adapting. There would be no one in the Americas if people just stayed put.

A lot of people also died in the Americas and human evolutionary process