Mutual Value Escalation

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Mutual value escalation has been the driving force behind most of the successful techniques and methods developed in history and recent years. It is also the concept which drives most symbiotic relationships between living things. A mutual value escalation is is an interaction which results in an financial / emotional / intellectual exchange in which both parties benefit. A coach makes his players sharper, faster, and able to think more quickly on their feet and in turn they go on to win games and championships for him. Their combined value as a team is much greater than the sum of their value as individuals.

Certain people are more inclined to escalating value than others. As pick up artists, it is of utmost importance. It can be said that there are three types of people in this world: Givers, takers and leaders.

'Givers' give everything away up front, with a hidden expectation of return. If they do not get that return, they harbor expressed or unexpressed anger and hostility. The classic example of this is the 'nice guy' who supplicates over and over expecting to get sex in return, and then when he gets dumped, blames the girl and calls her a *****. MVE is NOT supplication. It is the preservation and enhancement of overall or long term collective emotions of a group of people. When a 'giver' gives something (with expectation of return) then you will then be holding the 'expectation' emotion, and the girl will now be carrying a 'obligated / accountable' emotion. Neediness also causes these types of emotions. That is mutual value degradation.

'Takers', realizing that 'givers' get nowhere in our society, take as much as they can from people because of their own insecurity about their abilities to attain what they desire. They also will harbor anger and hostility if they do not get what they attempt to take. A good example is a guy (who some may consider 'alpha') who tries to extract sex or financial resources from a woman but adds absolutely no value to her life. These guys will be successful to a certain extent with low self esteem women, but eventually smart women will grow tired of this and conjure up enough strength to break free from such an unhealthy and destructive relationship. The relationship ends with both parties worse off than when they started, both with a distorted perception of the opposite sex.

Both 'givers' and 'takers' come from a similar place. They are both attached to an outcome and attempt to use negative emotions in order to reach that outcome. The hostility and anger originates from the fear of an imagined consequence resulting from failure to 'take' or 'receive'. Since the majority of people in this world fall into the 'giver'/'taker' category, it is the leaders who, through their strength and direction, can rise above and make things go right.

What most people fail to notice, however is that there is another option: The Leader. A leader will increase the value of himself all the while increasing the value of the people he interacts with. He makes intelligent decisions, takes responsibility for his actions and creates positive emotions in his group. Since the majority of people in this world fall into the 'giver'/'taker' category, it is the leaders who, through their strength and direction, can rise above and make things go right. It is commonly thought that there can only be one leader in any interaction. That is not true. It may be true that only one person can leading at any one particular time, but two leaders can interact in a very effective and mutually beneficial manner.

I really think people have a huge misconception about indirect methods. They seem to believe we are somehow 'hurting' the girl or making her feel bad about herself in some way. When done correctly, this cannot be further from the truth. Great C+F is giving her the gift of humor. Well constructed negs demonstrate awareness and social subtlety, valuable to any woman striving to be more beautiful. Well timed takeaways teach women to respect us, and in the end they appreciate the lesson.

If your methods do not add value to the interaction, then you are coming from the wrong place. Escalate mutual value, always.


Most healthy men and women have a tendency toward survival and the attainment of positive emotions. People naturally want to be around others who can add value to their lives and make them feel good. It is completely natural and built into us by evolution. Natural leaders take care of themselves, they involve themselves in actions to improve their lives, and the lives of the people around them. It just plain feels GREAT to be around people who possess this quality. They are charismatic, comfortable and inspire everyone involved to more positive and pleasurable emotions.

Mutual Value Escalation is THE way into the secret society. By your actions, you demonstrate that a woman's involvement in your life would only be a benefit to her, no matter what your intention is. You leave absolutely no room for implications of negative repercussions. Since leaders have no attachment and make no implied demands, women will very quickly realize the potential of a no-strings-attached sexual relationship as well as a fulfilling and rewarding long term relationship.

We are not the guys who impose on their freedom by dropping hints of emotional dependence. We do not supplicate to a woman and shower her with insincere compliments. We are also not the guys who, in a selfish pursuit of our own hedonism, sabotage her emotions with lies, deceit and invalidation. We do not drain the life energy from social interactions by demoralizing the team players on which we depend to enhance our lives.

We strive to improve our women's lives by helping them to become stronger, more independent, guiding her to self-discovery and excellence.

And for that, they will reward us with everything they've got!


Enhance her experience whether it is day game or night game, 'indirect' or 'direct' game. A lot of stock routines are created with value built in, so in a sense most of us are creating value escalation artificially. Be aware of the large frame of what we are doing and pay attention to the emotional implications of your technique. We are enhancing the shared experience of which we take part. MVE can be cultivated internally without routines, if you are aware of it while developing spontaneity. If you prefer to use straight spontaneity, only calling on stories when you are reminded of them, your intention will guide your language. Combine genuine expression with leadership frames so that you both benefit.

Learn to reframe everything into the more positive, optimistic, humorous - But this doesn't mean kiss her ass by any stretch. Be realistic and judge her shortcomings fairly. Be aware of her shortcomings, (don't lie and tell her the opposite is true) but make her feel better about them. This is the base structure of good c+f or a great neg.

The real power behind most great techniques is AWARENESS. Do you have the awareness to notice the subtle flaws and insecurities in a gorgeous woman, or are you perceiving her as perfect in every way, and merely picking out some random feature to criticize? In this game, cleverness is no substitute for true awareness.

EXAMPLE:
-Be aware and notice her shortcoming: She's a bit short for your tastes.
-Be honest with yourself about it, don't lie to her: Don't tell her she's the perfect height if you don't believe it.
-Reframe it to positive in an attempt to make her feel better about it:

Low degree of subtlety (C+F style): Tell her it must be nice to be able to get the child's admission price into theme parks.

High degree of subtlety (Neg style): Tell her you think she might look really great in high heels.


The success of an approach is especially dependent on MVE. It is important to start with a leader vibe from the very beginning and presented as an opportunity for the two of you make a great connection.

Taker's approach: Either forced, too ****y, or too presumptuous. These guys may attempt to make women feel guilty for not talking to them.

Giver's approach: Weak, and full of compliments. These guys will just tell her she's beautiful with hopes of her continuing the interaction. They expect that the simple act of giving a compliment will inspire her to chase them.

Great approaches, no matter what the technique have a vibe that says "This is an opportunity for you to have a valuable interaction."

The direct approach presents a unique challenge since it is very common for the inexperienced practitioner to vibe 'giver' when using a compliment-type opener. He must rely on projecting value through his vibe, as opposed to having it built into the opener as is more common with opinion opener / story type openers.

One of most challenging approaches from a logistical standpoint is opening a woman who is walking away from you. It requires a high level of physical awareness and playfulness. Any 'taker' vibe must be IMMEDIATELY diffused by increasing your distance, or by using humor. If you can do this well, pat yourself on the back. It requires a very subtle balance of different vibes, and opening with correct bodylanguage and timing.
 

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Mutual Value Escalation is not only the most important factor for picking up women, it is also very important for any social interaction.
MVE is the essence of charisma, and charisma creates success and leadership.
 
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