Most People are Phoney.

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I came to realization that majority of people whom you meet are pretenders. It seems that most people are always trying to put a front of how much successful they are and how good they are and yet deep down they are very hallow and insecure indvidual's.

Just recently a guy I haven't seen for ages whom I looked up to when I was younger because he was a hockey player, seems confident and was succseful in business and women. I have come to know that this guy was a raging alcholic who recently beat his wife and lost his job because of his drinking. He has done so for years but no one knew about it. I also found out that a very respectable University professor I once admired, was cheating on his wife with female students and as a result those students pass his classes or recieve a resume recommandations from him.

Next time you meet someone who seems to have it all together and may even brag about it, realise that he may not be so hot sh1t themsleves. During my AFC's years I always thought that something was wrong with me while everyone else were so successful and now I realise even back then I was more normal and level headed then the vast majority of them.
 

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Yes very true. Most people are phonies. Dont worry about other people. This is very true. You don't always know the truth.
 

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Yep.
When you find real people, be good to them.
 

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For the love of all things sacred don't read Bret Easton Ellis' early books; you'll kill yourself!

C'mon, don't tell me you were naive enough to believe most people are actually real, truthful, and worth caring about. Heh, maybe I'm a tad cynical.
 
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DJDamage said:
I also found out that a very respectable University professor I once admired, was cheating on his wife with female students and as a result those students pass his classes or recieve a resume recommandations from him.
What is the name of this professor? What University? Do you have real evidence of this or is it just rumours? Should get a pen-camera so you can get evidence like this and post it on you-tube for our entertainment.
 

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Agreed. I should say that phoney can be a DJ or an AFC, it don't matter.


A PUA/salesman I worked for recentely was extrimely phoney. He'd brag about sh1t, try to impress women, even put his lame a55 game on me (work purposes nothing gay). In the end, he ended up short paying me. Just shows you what a trash he is. He'd brag he has friend on swat team that will kick anybody's a55 and do thing for him. I asked him if his friend can help me with my direver license situation, he said sure thing he wouldn't do anything to help me out, I haven't heard from that phoney for two weeks. Then I take my money and leave and he short pays me.

A lot of people I knew were phoney. But I'm lucky, I got one true friend who is for real. Those are had to come by.
 

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Agreed. I should say that phoney can be a DJ or an AFC, it don't matter.
Not true. In order for someone to be a true DJ, they can't be phoney. An aspiring DJ or a PUA, sure, but PUA's are a superficial imitation of a DJ anyway.
 

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PUA/salesman. I doubt the guy knows the science, he might be a natural. He was married several times, if that's to tell me anything. Game is based on bragging and a55 kissing, a few techniques I noticed such as 101, push and pull, and sh1t like that. Always dominant, alpha male, but jew type of alpha male with a55 kissing and bragging at its roots. Fvcker pulls several 8+s a week, must be player.


Based on that I say that either DJ or AFC could be phoney. Because clearly, you can't call that guy an AFC.
 
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i find this thread very interesting.

i get what you are saying, that you see people and think they have very nice lives but have a lot of deep chit inside.

i used to consider myself an average person, because i didnt have something special that differentiates me from everybody else.

I used to see classmates that were national champions in any sports, or like they would be the person with better grades in the whole class or whole high school, other were very popular and have tonz of friends and girls, and me i had nothing.

But i started to realize that these people had a lot of trouble inside their lives, some people i knew where bulimic, other people had babies, other ones where into drugs, other where alcoholics and things like that.

and i dont have this problems, i may not be good at something, but i have the ambition and courage to become a better person, also i have seen that i have a lot of COMMON SENSE and logic, and this people i know have good grades in school but they dont have any common sense they are stupid pieces of chit so i think this put me on another level above them even though they may seem more "cool".

dont go for what it seems.
 

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People are who they are because it it's the easiest and/or most comfortable type of person they know how to be. Whether or not they are authentic or not doesn't matter. What matters is how you allow them to effect you.
 

Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.

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djSlvt said:
Always dominant, alpha male, but jew type of alpha male with a55 kissing and bragging at its roots.
Keep **** like this out of here. This isn't a KKK forum.
 

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You have to wonder if he is actually a jew that got offended, or some white kid with problems. Because I don't know a single jew who's be offended by that sh1t. Either way, these are just words, there is no reason to get insecure and verbally abussive, nor there is need to troll and ruin a good thread.
 

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I love how he can make racist comments and then attack people who actually point out that he's racist. That's some deep-rooted, messed-up defense mechanism right there. Did your mommy not give you enough attention when you were a kid?

Go away troll.
 

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Oh wow, this one took it personal.


Ok, here is some reeeeel racist sh1t, don't read if you're easily offended.


...but an American type of alpha male with a55 kissing and bragging at its roots.

Troll :down:
 

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I think people fail to realize there is a border between Canada and the US, and that people from the United States are generally called "Americans" while people from Canada are called "Canadians." Heh, that's what happens when you let uneducated trolls on forums.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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I see what you guys are saying with regards to not worring about other's being phoney and letting it to affect you, however when you are dealing in the social relam it does affect you. Sometimes I catch myself being phoney in social situations, let me give you an example:

Before I found sosuave I was a lost cause. Highschool was a sad existence. When I went to university, I met this guy who was a natural PUA and he took me under his wings. Not only did he show me the ropes of how to talk with women but he also told me how to dress like and get a hair style so WOMEN WILL FIND ME ATTRACTIVE (that means looking like a metro) The method was mostly supplication, involves lies and dressing up well so they will think you are rich. His motto was that it doesn't matter how you go about getting the pvssy but as long as you do, you win.

So for a while I was going around clubs and bars, lying to chicks about my name, what I do, where I am from and pretty much becoming a different person at night. To be honest, I hated it. I would get more attention by saying I am from NYC and flaunting my cash (which I never really had to spend) but it was eating me on the inside. I was living a lie myself and I wanted out until I met some chick whom I develped oneitis for and allowed me being myself but since I was an AFC, it didn't last long and that what drove me to this site. I was captivating by Pook's and Senor finger's writing about being natural about things and thus you don't need to lie or run routines when you are in the zone and confident in your own abilities.

The one thing I try not to do in social situations even to this day but fail is the need to try to impress people. I still catch myself embellishing stories or make up stories for a good laugh. I am still trying to create that kind of life where I don't have to do that or feel the need to impress people because I want to start living the kind of life where stories are written about.
 

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DJDamage said:
I came to realization that majority of people whom you meet are pretenders. It seems that most people are always trying to put a front of how much successful they are and how good they are and yet deep down they are very hallow and insecure indvidual's.

Just recently a guy I haven't seen for ages whom I looked up to when I was younger because he was a hockey player, seems confident and was succseful in business and women. I have come to know that this guy was a raging alcholic who recently beat his wife and lost his job because of his drinking. He has done so for years but no one knew about it. I also found out that a very respectable University professor I once admired, was cheating on his wife with female students and as a result those students pass his classes or recieve a resume recommandations from him.

Next time you meet someone who seems to have it all together and may even brag about it, realise that he may not be so hot sh1t themsleves. During my AFC's years I always thought that something was wrong with me while everyone else were so successful and now I realise even back then I was more normal and level headed then the vast majority of them.
this reminds me of the book

how to win friend and influence people.

There is a whole chapter on the feeling of importance.

We all do its, human nature some to a bigger or lesser degree.


If you want a very good insight into it, read the book, it will blow your mind, you cant help to look at people a little different.

Everyone is out well most are out to impress to feel important it is essentially a core make up of being human, its rooted at the core of all out advances, its like you wanting to do well at a job, girl, university, test e.t.c or become something, so others can say 'isn't he doing well'.

when you actually really think about it you wonder why we do it, you read the book and become almost desensitised by it, you start to see where people are coming from in there interactions, it has a dampening effect on you.

no longer are you thinking, he is fake or whys he trying to impress me since you can see in most conversations the same thing.

I saw two old people chatting the other day on the bus and i just observed how this ideal is in place even in people that have lived and supposed to be wiser.

well one old lady was talking about her docters appointments and she was so hell bent on trying to put her story across, her mate on the other hand was hell bent on telling the women about her holiday, niether actually listening both just telling each other about them selves, you see people are very much 'i', one part they want to tell you about them, there experiances and want you to acknowledge it subcounciously, whislt the other is doing the exact same thing.

when you read these types of book, you can actually learn to listen, instead of deriving that feeling from your interactions, since when you reflect you realize for a large % of people its not really about 'you' its about 'them', this is just the way it is and this is not a bad thing, when you understand you see this is essential for progress and that feeling of importance is one of the many factors why we even get out of bed on a morning.

imagine being on an island by your self, would you build an hut for you just to live in or would that hut be different if there was some other on that island.

would you build it to set an example or would you build it out of a need for shelter? well if you actually think about it, if your intune with how people work eventually if there are others on that island you will want to contribute something, now one could put this at the feeling of importance, to be recognized for and achievment in some way.

this can be applied to almost anything, even me posting in this thread is deep down rooted and others wanting to read it and state yeh i got something from that, otherwise whats the points in advice at all.

even charity, one can think did he offer it to make himself feel good or did he do it out of unselfish acts and keep it to himself? even when you do it for yourself, did you do it for a reason?

think about it the next time you offer a begger a dime, why did you offer him that cash? did it make you feel good or did it make you think you did they right thing and derive a feeling from it.

people can expand on this and take it to extreams but we are all as guilty of this as each other, to be out of this loop would make you the second coming of christ, unselfish acts not made to derive pleasure or a certain aspect, but even then christ had a message so even there was that his actions made for a purpose and not selfish acts at all? i dont believe in the bible but i think you know where i am going with this.

is there such thing as a self less act?!

one does wonder.

anyway some take it to different levels, but at the end of the day if there bragging about there life to you, your feeling of importance is simply the fact they are trying to impress you!

life is all about 'you' its just the way it is.

so what people put screens up but when you inderstand where it comes from, its no longer a big thing.

anyway why should people who are false have any impact on you?
especcially when they are trying so hard to impress and get that feeling of importance out of it.

yeh look at me, look what i did, everyone did you see that, i offered that begger a dime, aint i good :D or, hey i did a good thing back there, i feel good about that, or that advice i offered that person, hey they really obsorbed it and it helped them, hey thats cool.

every thing can be attributed to that feeling.

problem is when you read stuff like this it can make you arrogant as you may get bored at people trying to impress you and you find, or i do sometimes, thinking, please stfu! sometimes people are so concerned and focused on the 'me' factor one can switch of to it especcially when you see what they are trying to do subconciously.

we are social animals if we like it or not another aspect where it comes in also.

anyway i am confusing even myself now so i'll leave it there maybe some others can expand on it lol
 
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