[- Most men's problem isn't being too nice -]

[[R]eality]

We have a fetish at this site of saying that the only problem we all have is being too nice; you stop kissing ass and you'll get women obsessively: "women-women-women-sex-sex-sex lol). I think that's wrong.

Most guys I know or come in contact with aren't clueless, clumsy, too-nice doormats. Maybe they are with women, but they aren't at first glance.

The problem is something else. My guess is being too average and not sexual and aggressive enough.

 

[brenbaus]

yeah, the problem is not being sexual enough, and the way to stop that is to stop being so nice to women, treat them like you did when you were in elementary (or primary) school, tease them but then give a compliment

 

[[R]eality]

How many girls you sleep with, Brenbaus?

 

[white sox bill]

Seems like a lot of women teen-mid 20's like bad boys....once they are in late 20's, they realize thats NOT what they want. There are exceptions of course.
Being ****y and funny is NOT being bad boy.

 

[brenbaus]

How many girls you sleep with, Brenbaus?

i dont kiss and tell bub, that is for me and my current girl to know

 

[[R]eality]

Your first one.

 

[Rata Blanca]

Seems like a lot of women teen-mid 20's like bad boys....once they are in late 20's, they realize thats NOT what they want. There are exceptions of course.
Being ****y and funny is NOT being bad boy.

just like men woman want the following

good sex and money

during 18-20's the money issue is still secured by her parents
so they look for good sex only. (bad boys, naturals etc.)

during 25-30 are last healthier years to have babies
and they don't have financial security from her parents anymore..

so...who will marry then, have babies, support her (and kids from other guys in case she have some?) not the naturals, or bad boys who can support themselve and look for sex only!


IT DOESN'T MATTER
as long as he has a secure income and a d!ck and is no horrible he is a candidate and of course the first in line are the afcs
so woman neglect good sex for a financial security of course later on they will miss it and will:
a)cheat
b)divorce
c)both


there ya go thats a womans life

 

[flyinshark]

i have to agree with Rata Blanca.

Women will go out with the bad boys when they are young, and they will gradually start going for the nicer guys with time, because either the nice guys have lots of money or they(the women) are tired of getting hurt by the bad boys.

And if the nice guy they marry is not manly enough, they will cheat on him and they will get the best of both worlds: the nice guy's money and the alpha male's body and emotions he can stir inside of her.

 

[brenbaus]

how about we dont be bad boys, we dont be nice guys and we be men

 

[KillaCam]

how about we dont be bad boys, we dont be nice guys and we be men

That concept is lost on a lot of people unfortunately. Well said though.

 

[madgame]

I don't dig the '2 nice' line either. You don't have to be an ******* to make girls want you. You just have to be manly as in not act like a wussy and a man can still be nice. Just because you're not a wussy doesn't mean you're an *******. The being more sexually aggressive part fits right in there, I guess.

And the reason why girls often prefer the *******s is because:

Man who's no ******* > ******* > Wussy

But as there aren't too many of the first category, females go for the second category...

 

[[R]eality]

madgame, you wanna re-type what you said so we can get it instead of seeing ***'s all over the place?

 

[Rata Blanca]

this is what he ment

Wussys < Bad Boys < Real Men


edit. Agreed with brenbaus just be man.

 

[brenbaus]

That concept is lost on a lot of people unfortunately. Well said though.

i agree, most of the guys here are only here for poon so they learn the pua tricks, but never the mindset you need to have to be sucessful with women. and i know i am not the first guy to realize this on the board

 

[insanity]

i've changed my mind about the whole badboy thing. my brother-in-law has spent the majority of his life in jail. this year he applied to college and got into carpentry. last year my woman talked about her brother to her friends and said he was in jail and would be getting out to go to school next year.

so anyways this year when he went to school and a few of her gal pals were all smitten with him. he was flirty and acted like a bad boy. so one day my woman mentioned to him that one of her friends liked him. he went from bad boy to wuss boy. he became really clingy, always coming around my woman and this girl. he would call everynight at our place wondering where they went for lunch, what did they do, etc. and to make matters worse he became very insecure when guys talked to her. he always let those guys know that he just got out of jail.(lame) sometimes he would show up for lunch without a lunch and her being nice offered her sandwich to him and he took it.

for a guy who spent most of his life in jail i expected easy success. but he was to accommodating and used to many compliments to her and he was to pushy to get a date. his kino skills sucked by asking her for hugs and the girl told my woman that she didn't like pda in front of people, it weirded her out.

after a while it fizzled out. the next day he went and payed for a hooker and shouldf up to school again without a lunch and my woman told him if he didn't spend his money on hookers maybe he could afford to eat.

its quite interesting

 

[typical]

Actually a real man is a bit of a nice guy and a bit of a bad boy all mixed into one, he has the best aspects of both types of persons.

Be nice to people less fotunate then you be caring be kind, but dont take any bs from anyone at anytime. And what do the badboys have we have the zest for life the whole be able to do what we want when we want attitude. You can have both.

I had to learn to be a little bit more nice as well being a total jerk may get you layed but the chick dont stick around for long trust me.

 

[[R]eality]

I don't know anyone if being a real man gets you desireable women anymore. I am one, or seem to myself to be one, and I do get more than average, but not what I think I should be.

 

[typical]

Your a man you like something work your way to getting it, you like some chick go get her, sitting here saying you think you can do better isnt good enough.

Always be happy with what you have and always try to get better.

 

[KillingTime]

I think a big problem is also analyzing it too much, I don't think most "real manly men" are sitting around pondering about guys being too nice, or guys being jerks etc.
This website has a lot of good info about overall confidence, but let's face it, look back to high school/college... i doubt most of the popular guys that were out with women every weekend would be spending their free time posting on internet message boards. I knew a few of these "cool guys" and they would use the internet about twice a year at most.

It's not about being nice or being an ass etc., you are who you are, it's about being your true self and living without fear. I was like that in high school and then mellowed out for a while (no clue why), but back in high school... man i didn't need to be reading some book about laws of power/seduction etc..
I wasn't the coolest or hippest guy in the world but i wasn't afraid to grab some chicks ass or feel her up, or if she was a bit more reserved simply joke around about how I wanted to have sex with her... that was just me, i didn't even mean it but I like to have fun and joke around, and i just did it without thinking. My goal was never too impress anyone, I wasn't trying to get laid, hell i didn't even have a car so dates were limited and not a priority.

Point is there were no worries back then, i didn't have to come look at some website to analyze if what I was doing was "alpha" or not. WTF man, I shopped at wal-mart, had a face full of zits and still had a blast just being me.

 

[[R]eality]

KillingTime:
..and were more normal than most people here.