Men and woman as friends; revisited

[reorex]

I have a good female friend who has many male friends. She said she knows most of them want to F her. In fact, I have gotten to know some of them, and, in a 1:1 conversation they tell me how hot she is and that they want to f her. She even lets them joke with her about it as she knows it will never happen. I have witnessed this kind of dialog with these male friends.

She states they know her boundaries, and they each cherish the friendship because of it. I countered with, but given the opportunity they would F you. She said ALL men would (not with her, that all men in general would F a female friend they are attracted to).

I told her I would not F her, given the opportunity. She said I was different, which is why she likes our friendship so much.

So, me personally, as a male, can't understand how a woman can state a man is a great friend, knowing that man would F her given the chance. Yeah, they "agree" to the boundaries, but they really are not. It's not a boundary if you would cross it given the chance. My ex gf had a male friend like this. She referred to him as her brother, as they were so close. I would think to myself, really, i don't want to F my sister.

So, women of LS, who have male friends that you know would F you, how is this man your friend? You have the control, that is not a balanced friendship, right? You defined boundaries they agreed to, yet you know they would cross those boundaries given the chance to.

What am I missing here?

 

[VikingKing]

Women use the fact that their male friends that want to fvck them to their advantage. So they can get favors, and dinner, or money, or gifts ect.

Met this girl at my school who was in my intro to psyche class. She admitted that she gets fvcked by a certain guy, and then leads other guys on emotionally. Shes constantly texting in class, getting all the attention she could every want. I just wanted to get it from the horses mouth, but she did initiate the conversation with me after class, asking what I thought about it.

She doesnt give a fvck either. I think she is a piece of sh!t of a human being, and I literally ignore her.

90% of women are snakes that are amoral. They do not care how they affect others emotionally, as long as nothing comes back on them, and hurts there reputation.

 

[JoshSway]

Eh. You can still be friends with a girl you would f-ck, and they can still be friends with you. Would f-ck and actively pursuing to f-ck are different things.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Agree with Josh.

Also: when people ask if men and women can be friends, what needs to be said is that friendship between a man and a woman will not look the same as friendship between two guys or two girls. Because it looks different, people wonder "Is that friendship?" It's a different species of friendship.

A guy needs to treat it for what it is, just take it lightly. The only female friend I have is so because she is very intelligent, which is unusual. Very knowledgeable with an analytical mind, which is unusual in guys and even more so in women. So it is fun to go out and have a cup of coffee on occasion. Plus it is useful sometimes. Showing up with a female friend at a social event is instant pre-selection.

Yes, I would have sex with her if she would want it, but she is awkward about sex and only has it when she gets into deep and long relationships. That's okay, women and men are different that way. She probably knows I would sleep with her if she suggested it, but so what? My best friend (a guy) must know that I would take half of what is in his bank account if he offered it to me, but that doesn't mean things are awkward between us.

 

[Mr Wright]

I have some quite hot female friends who I have previous done stuff with and it was weird and we realised that we were better off friends. Because I've been there and have no desire to go there again, our friendship is solid, neither of us like each other and we both get other benefits from our friendship.

Remember that girls grow up knowing that most guys would fvck them if they had a chance, so to them, its just an everyday thing. The fact that you're nice to her and talk to her is what she enjoys, hence you're probably being used as some sort of emotional tampon.

If you're not getting from the friendship other than hoping that you'll end up in her pants one day, you're a chump. Get something from the friendship or realise that you're just another guy she has wrapped around her pinky finger. There are benefits of being friends with a girl, such as when you go out clubbing, you have social proof and if you're pretty open with them and tell them what to do, they will help you. She may also have hot friends, remember you're her friend, not all of her friends friend and make that clear to her and them. Fvck them but don't scorch the farm too quickly, play your cards right and you can have a few of her mates.

 

[NewJack]

I think Wolfgang said it:

A guy needs to treat it for what it is, just take it lightly.

Look at the guys this board attracts. Could we ever take anything sexual, lightly?

Basically no, we could not.

That's why we don't understand this dynamic and view it as purely exploitative.

 

[Trump]

Bro you are not honest with yourself. A guy would have sex with any hot girl given the opportunity. He could hate her more than anything, but if she's hot, he will still have sex with her. Guys aren't wired for the emotional and support crap, girls are.

As for why women keep men around without having to give it up, it is for ego. They want to see which sucker hangs around and has no backbone to ask for anything in return.

 

[FairShake]

I encourage guys to have female friends. They tend to be more empathetic and you can have much deeper friendships with them than you might be used to with your bros. They are better at remembering your birthday, sending you good luck texts when you are starting a new job, getting you a gift based on a random conversation months ago, and things like that too.

But...

Personally I don't think guys and girls can really be friends like i outlined above unless they are both married or in long term relationships. Otherwise one or both of them will eventually develop romantic/sexual feelings that are natural when single people spend a lot of time together. And these feelings can lead to a relationship...which is great...but more often they lead to a drunken confession and attempted make out or a couple romantic interludes that lead to nothing but a lost friendship.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Any men who is in a relationship with a woman where the woman makes the rules is a faggot.

You as a man should not have a woman in your life (outside of an employer) who can tell you: "Ok.. this is how its gonna be" and you actually go along with it while YOU have little say in anything SHE does. :crazy:

If you're friends with a woman you want to f*ck and you're not f*cking her.. that means you have little say in that relationship. That makes you a faggot.

 

[NewJack]

Any men who is in a relationship with a woman where the woman makes the rules is a faggot.

Dude you are like a cartoon drawing someone made which actually came to life.

I DONT TAKE SH!T FROM NO ONE. TAKING SH!T FROM PEOPLE IS FOR FAGS.

I'M A HARDCORE DUDE WHO LIVES HARD AND PLAYS HARD. I ALSO LIKE FIRST-PERSON SHOOTERS.

I WONT LIVE BY ANYONE ELSE'S RULES. ITS ON ME NOW, SWEETY. YOU'RE A GUEST IN MY REALITY. BOW DOWN AND KISS THE RING, FAGGOTS. lol

 

[john1234]

Bro you are not honest with yourself. A guy would have sex with any hot girl given the opportunity. He could hate her more than anything, but if she's hot, he will still have sex with her. Guys aren't wired for the emotional and support crap, girls are.

As for why women keep men around without having to give it up, it is for ego. They want to see which sucker hangs around and has no backbone to ask for anything in return.

Can you delve more on this?

I think girls have male friends to take advantage of the sexual tension and abuse it to get favors or even to be treated nicely.

 

[nismo-4]

Does Briffault's Law hold any meaning for you?

Men and women can't be friends unless they've already been intimate. Sex first, relationship and friends second. If a woman wants to be friends before intimacy, drop her ass. She is rejecting you. All women have men they're f**king, and beta orbiters. I will reject any offer to be some beta orbiter.

Men, make your own goddamn mother**kin' rules! Stop letting b**ches dictate how a relationship will go! Judge nismo's orders.

Case closed. Sh*t!

 

[TheODB]

The number of women who have made good friends to me can be counted on two fingers. For the most part, they don't have real interests, hobbies, or passions, and thus don't have much to say in terms of conversation. I like to have friends for the purpose of engaging in some sort of intelligent discourse just as much as for the purpose of being able to count on them. Most chicks, even the ones with high IQs and good careers, would rather talk about celebrity gossip or other similar shallow crap 9 times out of 10. Don't bother befriending women unless they've proven to you to actually be good company, or if they're serious about acting as a wing-woman.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Does Briffault's Law hold any meaning for you?

Men and women can't be friends unless they've already been intimate. Sex first, relationship and friends second. If a woman wants to be friends before intimacy, drop her ass. She is rejecting you. All women have men they're f**king, and beta orbiters. I will reject any offer to be some beta orbiter.

Men, make your own goddamn mother**kin' rules! Stop letting b**ches dictate how a relationship will go! Judge nismo's orders.

Case closed. Sh*t!

Pure flawless Gold.

Men need to stop projecting their own attraction onto a woman. Playing by a woman's rules to get p*ssy from her is the ultimate display for desperation.

Spin plates.

The female entitlement of today is a direct result of all the pandering, desperate, faggots who make all women feel like they deserve the world. These men spend all their time auditioning for female approval. Then once they actually hand a woman, they spend all their time worrying about losing her. Its a really stupid way to live. :trouble:

 

[apprenticedj]

You guys crack me up, so many rules and lines drawn in the sand. Life doesn't fit neatly into these imaginary boxes we put people and relationships in. Just live dammit, make friends, bang chicks, have drinks, laugh and take a major fvcking chill pill. Life is good if you allow it to be.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Dude you are like a cartoon drawing someone made which actually came to life.

You know, the feelings-are-for-faggots routine, with all the colors and italics and underlinings added, always has me wondering if it is a joke, pulling our collective leg. Note that "PlayHer" is written as one word, and if you take away the H, which is often mute in English, it becomes "Player Man", as in playing us all. Mad props if that is the case.

 

[VladPatton]

Holy flaming shıtballs, this girl said it with her own mouth:

"given the opportunity they would F you. She said ALL men would"

She knows the deal. Men and women cannot be friends...one ALWAYS wants to fück the other. Everything else is just puṣṣyfooting and orbiting.

 

[Krueg]

I know a couple of fat chicks who would like to F me, but that aint happening! They stay in the friend zone!!!

Kinda like this girl your talking about, has a couple guy friends, but thats as far as it goes.. Men and women arent that different, though this site likes to make you think women are some mystical creatures...