Mel Gibson

[insanity]

wow poor mel gibson and the controversy surrounding him. but he's human just like you and me. i think he made a major mistake, but am i going to boycott his movies. hell no.

people are to sensitive. mel rocks

 

[BacardiGuy]

I found it funny he made some huge anti-semetic speech to a Jewish cop.

 

[OfficeSpace]

Haha, yeah... But the guy was pretty drunk! I was happy to hear Mel made an apology though...

 

[whistler]

Gibson's dad doesn't believe the holocaust occurred. (That's the gist at least.)

So the remarks -- congruent with his beliefs or not -- aren't surprising.

 

[reyalp]

 

[The Truth]

I find it hypocritical that the American media and government promote racist propoganda against Muslims, yet someone who has a personal opinion about Jews is unacceptable and outrageous. I am 99% sure if he spoke the same way about Muslims, it would have been overlooked.

I don't condone racism in any way, but one thing I do agree with is that Jews hold a lot of political and media power and when it comes to the wars, they are not the innocent persecuted victims they make themselves out to be.

 

[insanity]

yep the media stinks. a couple of nights ago watching the news, there was something about three dirty cops who got caught for something(can't quite remember)...anyways the only picture they showed was the african american cop and then they switched stories really quick "in other news"

i was wondering who what the 2 white cops looked like.

 

[whistler]

yep the media stinks.

Well, TV sucks anyway...

Try:

http://news.google.com/

and shut off the endless commercials and retarded reporters.

 

[Le Parisien]

I find it hypocritical that the American media and government promote racist propoganda against Muslims, yet someone who has a personal opinion about Jews is unacceptable and outrageous. I am 99% sure if he spoke the same way about Muslims, it would have been overlooked.

I don't condone racism in any way, but one thing I do agree with is that Jews hold a lot of political and media power and when it comes to the wars, they are not the innocent persecuted victims they make themselves out to be.

I completely agree!

However, I do think that it all comes down to a power struggle. By sheer numbers or by their financial/political/lobby influence, certain groups are always injustly favored, some others are more discriminated. Whether in the US or in other countries, it's the same thing, only the groups are different.

For example, in the US, any thing slightly against Israel would be branded anti-semitic; and to a lesser degree, anything critical towards the black community would be considered racist.
On the other hand, the mideastern community gets verbally lynched everyday, no one seems to care. Asians suffer from blatant racism all the time, but it's always "nah, I'm not serious, was just a joke, just for fun, nothing harmful..." From the daily speech of average citizens to major hollywood movies, no one feels "guilty" of promoting stereotypes/racism against these groups.:cuss:

But again, no one said life was fair...

 

[MR.ALPHA]

Ironically now we hear he is suicidal just like the character he played in the LETHAL WEAPON trilogy. Goes to show that fortune and fame does not guarantee happiness. I do wish him the best

 

[Crowes]

I find it hypocritical that the American media and government promote racist propoganda against Muslims, yet someone who has a personal opinion about Jews is unacceptable and outrageous. I am 99% sure if he spoke the same way about Muslims, it would have been overlooked

You are in dire need of an education, IN A HUGE WAY, where do you live, may I ask?

BTW, the American mainstream media HATES America! NBS, CBS, ABS, and the Clinton News Network (CNN), to mention a few. Media against muslims? Enlighten me please?

 

[Vincent]

This thread is teatering on the edge of a political discusssion. Be careful.

 

[seanchai]

I don't condone racism in any way, but one thing I do agree with is that Jews hold a lot of political and media power and when it comes to the wars, they are not the innocent persecuted victims they make themselves out to be.

I'm not sure what to take from this statement. Which wars are you referring to? The Second World War? Are you saying the Jews deserved genocide due to them not being "innocent"? The Israeli War of Independence, the Six-Day War or the Yom Kippur War? Are you saying the Jews deserved to be driven into the sea because they're not "innocent"? Please do clarify.

 

[Derek Flint]

I find it hypocritical that the American media and government promote racist propoganda against Muslims, yet someone who has a personal opinion about Jews is unacceptable and outrageous. I am 99% sure if he spoke the same way about Muslims, it would have been overlooked.

I don't condone racism in any way, but one thing I do agree with is that Jews hold a lot of political and media power and when it comes to the wars, they are not the innocent persecuted victims they make themselves out to be.

Can you post some sources of that alleged "racist propaganda" being promoted by the government and media against Muslims?

 

[Titanium]

I think its interesting how alcohol can sometimes have people reveal their 'true selves' and their honest opinions....the ones that they would otherwise politely with hold.

Mel Gibson obviously hasn’t learned the art of 'keeping cool'. His actions, and coming off on a policeman like that are just retarded…..especially for a 50 year old man. I think he definitely has anger issues. An intense nut. For that alone, (and regardless of his political disposition and whether one agrees with him or not)…I think he’s a f*cking fool.

But I digress, a bit – considering how the media tends to distort details. Maybe some of his behavior was exaggerated.

From what I read in CNN, he wasn’t that much over the legal limit…he definitely wasn’t smashing drunk.

 

[Phoenix_of_the_ashes]

I think its interesting how alcohol can sometimes have people reveal their 'true selves' and their honest opinions....the ones that they would otherwise politely with hold.

IN VINUM VERITAS

 

[drummer]

FVCKING CELEBRITIES!
Mel Gibson is stupid... and its settled.
I would like to point out that I make fun all of racial groups equally.
And I do agree about overly sensitive groups and groups that just take sh!t all the time.

Sincerely,
Your friendly, bow and arrow weilding, feather headress wearing, corn eating, smallpox getting friend.

 

[seanchai]

Who the hell cares what Mel Gibson said anyway, He's MAD MAX the road warrior mother fvckers and can say whatever he wants..The end.

Good point!

 

[The Truth]

To answer some questions here, NO I DO NOT THINK ANYONE DESERVED WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HOLOCAUST! Just because I don't think they're entirely innocent does not automatically mean I think they deserve to be executed and tortured! And I do not believe civilians deserve to be included in the wars in any way.

As for them not being so innocent, look at Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq. Look at the war on terrorism and how it is focused 100% on Muslim terrorists. You don't see IRA members being arrested or US airforces raiding any white man's countries to hunt out terrorists. Don't you think it's all a coincidence?

I know I've probably broken the no politics rule here but I didn't want anyone thinking that I condone the Holocaust or am racist against Jews, so I needed to clarify my opinion.

 

[The Truth]

Oh and just a random piece of media racism. This comes from the ABC network. It's a big article so I've cut it down to the basics.

L O N D O N, Dec. 28 — A suicide bombing that killed three Israelis in Tel Aviv last spring. The brutal murder of an American journalist in Pakistan last year. And the notorious attempted "shoe bombing" on a flight from Paris to Miami two months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

‘Targeting the U.K.’
Since 9/11, many British Muslims have exported their extremism.

One week after the Istanbul bombings, British police arrested a Muslim man in Gloucester, U.K., and charged him under antiterror laws with conspiring with Reid.

That same day, authorities searched a Muslim school in northern England, and made more arrests in other British locales including Manchester, Cambridge and London.

But in many ways, preventing a terror attack in Britain will be much more difficult than it is in the United States. The difference begins with the make-up of the respective populations. There are between 1.6 million and 2 million Muslims in Britain — roughly the same as the United States, which has almost five times as many people.

Over the years, Britain has taken in all kinds of radical exiles, including famous names like Marx and Lenin. More recently, Saudis, Algerians and other Muslims have taken refuge there.

The British believed exiles provided useful intelligence and had grievances with their own countries, but not with Britain. But that was before 9/11 and the Iraq war. Since then, the presence of Muslim exiles in Britain has taken on a different meaning.

Notice how "Muslim" and "terrorist" are used interchangably? Notice how they imply that Muslims are some kind of threat? Notice how they use words like Muslim and extremism together, to try and create phrases like "muslim extremist" in our heads.

It's shocking how they say "many" Muslims have exported their extremism when only a tiny percentage of Muslims are extremist. In fact I would guess there are more Christian extremists in the world than Muslim extremists.

You have to look for the propoganda but it is there and it does have a powerful affect on society. I've heard Bush and many other news networks doing the same kind of thing.