Masseuse weird situation, please provide brutal honesty

RedPill1982

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Ok,

So let me just go with the story and then I would like you to give any opinion you want about my case.

I went to this massage parlor and ended up having a massage from the "receptionist" I sweet talk my way to get her to give me a massage which she agreed. BTW this is a real massage parlor not a brothel.


So I ended up having a massage from her butt naked. By then I realized that she does do massages just not all the time, so I was lucky. I started touching her legs while having a big boner. I then managed to get her clothes off and I started touching her sensually. Next thing you know we were doing some serious fore play. No penetration though, she refused.
Our foreplay was very intense and very sensual. It wasnt dry. It felt like she was my gf and I got positive vibe from her. And it didnt feel like she was doing it for money because other wise she would have initiated the price thing (bj, hj etc) which she didnt. By the end of the session she ended up jerking me off. I left some tip and I left but it was awkward cause she didnt ask for it. When I left I was wondering what the **** just happened. I was confused as ****. I didnt know if I ended up having an erotic moment with a receptionist? It didnt felt like a regular visit to the massage parlor. It felt kinda real and i think she was doing something she was not supposed to like getting naked and fore playing with a client. Dont get me wrong, I have seen this girl before and she told me she was just the receptionist. She has crossed my mind every now and then. I really like this girl. So I decided to go back again a few days later.

The next time we did the same thing. But this time she was more restrictive. No fingering, she told me I tricked her which I denied of course. But I did managed to french kissed her and I liked that even better.

At this point I was hooked, I really like this girl. So I decided on my third visit I would try to ask her out by giving her a little gift with an insight joke kinda thing. Nothing big, simple yet meaningful. In the note I gave her my number and asked her out for dinner. (btw, I have asked for her number but she refused, instead she only gave me her work number if I wanted to talk)

SO comes the third visit. Same thing but more sensual. I gave her the gift and told her not to open it until she goes back home.

Now comes the part where I get more confused. She never called. All that feeling and conversation we had just went down the drain. I waited more than a week with no phone calls to her, nor did I made any return visit. Nothing. I had to keep my mindset clear. I didnt give up but I didnt want to chase neither. i was recuperating psychologically. Finally, when I was back to "normal" I went back again.

This time, I was more cheerful, I didnt made it a big deal that she didnt call. I was confident and cool. I never showed any sign of desperation for her even though I kinda was. This time, instead of going straight to foreplay, I went to the room with her and talked to her with more personal stuff and joked with her as well, that since I couldnt get a date with her, I have to arrange the date to her. We talked and she was more open this time. We never mentioned the phone call nor the gift. We just talked more personal and then went straight to sensual foreplay again. This time, it felt even more real like shes enjoying it more. I can literally feel her breathing hard and moving more erotically. I whisper to her ear how I keep thinking about her. How it got weird from seeing her as a receptionist to what we were doing on every visit. She told me she didnt want me to have hope that I would end up having sex with her. I told her what I wanted is to get to know her and not just trying to pursue sex (although I did try my limit on every visit) Again, I left with no progress, no dates, no number. But I still persisted.

A couple of days later I would instead call her workplace and try to talk to her. Conversation was short and simple (didnt want to look too needy)

I would also come by for a little short visit during lunch hr with no massage session. Things were normal as if she was giving me a little chance.

A few more days later I went for massage again. Final visit to her was the drawing to conclusion. I was pretty mad at her for some reason so I kinda confronted her that it hurts to see her attending other guys. That I would like to see her doing something else even though I admit I have no right to say that. She didnt look too happy and knew where i was going with this so she broke it off for me. She told me that she doesnt want to date clients. That they are shady and just **** around. That these people are married and cheating their wives. Ok, this is true but it also showed how naive she was. I told her that I felt for the receptionist not the masseuse. I then turned the table and ask if she would do this to all her clients. She said no. Which frankly Im not sure. But I believed her.
So we reconcile and went to foreplay again. We tried to keep it like it was just another massage visit. But it got sensual foreplay again. We were both enjoying it and giggle all the time like its our routine.
Then it got ugly again. She suddenly burst and kinda scream at me saying that "honestly, I feel uncomfortable doing this!" (foreplay?) "next time, you are having just a regular massage or go with another masseuse" I told her to cool it and asked her whats wrong? She said I was being too pushy. I dont know if what she meant us having foreplay is uncomfortable with her or that I was being too pushy with her that makes her feel uncomfortable. Things just didnt seem to make sense now.

I was heart broken. I then told her that I wont be doing this for very long anyway. We both felt bad so we tried to reconcile. I can tell when she burst that phrase, her eyes looked different. Like wanted to say it for a long time but yet at the end kinda regret saying it. Again we reconciled. What I dont know if she reconcile just to make me feel better and not get hurt. Or was she genuine that she felt bad for saying that. I dont know.

Long story short,
At the end of the day, I just went straight to her and give her a soft hug with one hand and whisper in her ear "Ok, Im going now, BYE!" And I left without looking back. I didnt know if I would come back or not, but I kept it ambiguous for her. Normally I would say, "when should I come back again?" This time I did not and left in a dramatic fashion. I also felt her sense of uncertainty when I turned and left without looking at her. I dont know if she wanted me come back or she just plain feel sorry for me for feeling disappointed. At that moment I felt like i should not come back. That all the signs were there. Since then I have not returned.

So I am confused, did we have something more than just a client provider relationship? If so, how twisted. From what Ive seen, I can honestly say she doesnt seem like the skanky hoe from a massage parlor. She was genuine. Yet there was a mystery about her. Although I think she felt the same way too about me. That I was hiding something. Which I kinda was. Ive never got to the usual route of meeting someone and then slowly going through sexual foreplay. This time it was the opposite. Dont get me wrong, we did enjoy the foreplay. She would get into it more than me sometimes with her dominating role. Honestly, it felt real. Each time with its unique sense. The first time was spicy hot. some visit she was more restraining. OThers, we were very sensual. But enjoyed every single one of them.

So I like her, theres no denying in that. But my mind is confused right now. My emotions is telling me one thing whereas my mind is telling me the other. Sometimes I felt stupid, that she never was interested in the first place. But sometimes I also feel the connection with her, not just the sensual part but the little things like the jokes, the tickles, the laughter we share, our personal story and our ambitions. But something was holding us back for some reason.....

So fellas, please advice. where do I stand now? What do I do? Whats my next move. Do I move on? I still think about her and I still like her. Although I dont fantasize about her as much and I pull my self more towards reality. What do think its on her mind? How do I pursue her without looking desperate and chasing her. What was it that happened between us? Have I done something wrong with the game? Where did I ****ed up? How can I make it up. Please help. I plan on not visiting her for a very long ass time, because I cant anyway. Although I have a small window of opportunity to see her one last time until a very long time if ever.

Please give me your brutal honesty! Thanks guys.
 

RedPill1982

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No she did not. She never mentioned anything about money when I was with her. As a matter of fact, on my last visit, she told me not to put any money on the table. She never ask for it. We never discussed paying for full service. If she was into money she would mentioned it. It was 5 massage visits with 6 visits in total. Money was never mentioned. I know this may sound naive, but she did talk about not wanting me to give her anything and not to spend more money just to visit her. I dont think they would go all this trouble to trying to get my money because its so contradicting to their business model. Really, your employees telling their client NOT to spend any more money on visits? Believe me, Ive been to a lot of of massage parlor, this is a very unique case.
 

LiveYourDream

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Reality Check = You paid for her time and bought each experience. Nothing more!

As you are realizing, you can make it into much more inside yourself. One can become attached or addicted and money flows out fast. Your head and heart want to believe THIS case is special and truly different. It's not!!! You paid for her time and she did her job well. You were a happy satisfied customer, each time, eager to return.

Once you desired more from "the relationship" it all went south because there was no "relationship". There was an experience provided on each visit, in exchange for money! That is all!!!

Do not give this receptionist anymore of your time and life by thinking about her further!

DO NOT GO BACK EVER!!!! Going there will just drain your wallet and Fu*k with your head and heart even more!

Step back into reality! Focus on bettering your life!

Make it a point this week, to go places where you can meet lots of NEW women to move onto. Get busy. Only choose women that are truly into you, not just playing for your money.
 

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she used you and you used her. end of the story.

It's amazing how human mind/ego has the ability to rationalize anything and make a failure seem like a win.
 

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The answer as I can see it by your description is yes. At least, most likely.

I think she “enjoyed” you. I think it would be perfectly reasonable to think she could like her “job” when you are the one involved. Perhaps more than anybody else she massages. I think you even hinted at her being “wet” for you. Im not sure chicks can fake that right out of the gate. Yeah, yeah, there are exceptions in both directions I get that guys. But this isn’t a human anatomy lesson. Just rationale to help the OP understand the mixed signals.

Now for the bad news. The feelings you two have/had do not supersede the business relationship. At least she can’t get past that in her mind. Either, she is truly "professional" or she is jaded by other guys. Maybe she had fallen for other men in the past in this way and got hurt. Maybe some guys are just filthy pigs and that has her hating. Maybe she even resents herself for liking you. All is stacked against you.

Look, the writing is on the wall here. She never initiated. Whatever the reason. She just didn’t. That is an important variable as to why you should move on.

I have said this before here at SS and I think it is very pertinent and prevalent here. In every relationship, not just romantic ones but all relationships, there is a pursuer and a pursuee. The short of it, and sort of obviously, is, the pursuee is always the weakened position and usually this cannot be changed. Meaning, that person usually “loses”.
I’m not sure I would ever think of this as rejection. I think maybe she might have even thought about calling or even seeing you in a more romantic fashion. Maybe she even dreams of it. Alas though, SHE NEVER WILL MAN.
She would have already. Im so sorry. I can see this pretty clearly. She had her chance to, she has DECIDED. Unfortunately, once that happens I think the decision only strengthens. You’re out.

Moving on I think anything you do will make matters worse for both of you. I also think even if you ended up with this sort of girl it would end badly. She sounds a little borderline(BPD) and you are infatuated with her. Its all pretty hot sounding actually, I don’t blame you.

My wise and caring verdict here is though. Its over. Move on. Enjoy the past experience.

Sorry bro. But, good on you for finger blasting a secretary with a slippery slit for you! That always feels good! Try and dwell on the victory of it and not the loss.
 

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she jacks off guys all day long for a living, she see's you as a random john and isnt interested
 

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foreverAFC said:
she jacks off guys all day long for a living, she see's you as a random john and isnt interested
Yup

The moment you give a girl money for this kind of stuff, she will see you as nothing more than a John
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

LMFAO

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Not sure whether to laugh or cry. Most likely a troll as no one can be this stupid.
 
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