So I wanted to continue the current discussions re Social Circles for access to women (and other benefits above getting laid or having a relationship). I want to turn people attention to social events vs social circles. The latter tends to require the former so it is beneficial to think in terms of the former.
It's true that social circles (community) is hard to find outside of the people we grow up with. It is generally to do with the fact that our society is still based upon the nuclear family and marriage model. In the past most men and women were married early, so the marital relationship pretty much defined the social circle and social events people went to. Most people socialised at their marital home, in their living room or garden.
As the traditional marriage system has broken down and more and more adults are single there is now a big gap in social interaction. This is related and is generally part of a wider atomization and break-down of society. Note, however, that Upper-Upper-Middle Classes have less of this problem. These people AFAIK have many more opportunities to socailise as they have access to parties and social events where they can access a certain quality of people, but more importantly, a certain quality of behaviour. The class system is a big part of this problem. I am sure Upper-UpperMiddle Class people in most 'Westernised' countries have many different types of advantages over 'lower' classes and socialising is no less important than business and networking opportunities, probably more so.
This seems to present opportunities for social group formation or possibly event organization. I am thinking the next step for me is to think about organizing parties and social events where people can meet and mingle.
Most Social Groups and Events break down due to a lack of leadership. This is because there is a huge dearth of high quality, older men available to Game young women (and men) and run these groups. This is because most of these types of guys are already married by the age of 35. Creating a social group like this requires these types of guys because younger men just cannot be in a group together without it falling apart.
For me, this is the line I am taking in my life. I can meet loads of women and 'Game' them especially now where I am working (hospitality) but I have no real credible value proposition to them other than being a bf or something casual. If I had a social group with good energy I could invite these girls out there and I feel like this is where it needs to go. I am thinking about organizing parties with drinks and food and keeping it for select people with good security and social vibe. Like hire out a hall or venue and then have food and some drinks for a flat fee, the girls I will game and make sure they are treating other girls well. The guys I dont know it depends on the guy, most are gonna be beta or 'average' guys who dont understand the setup so I just have to let the girls handle them.
Obviously my biggest problem is the lack of men available to work with set this up. This is because most guys dont understand the Game at this level. A natural human 'community' has the following structure:
Alpha Males > Women > Beta Males (imagine concentric circles)
This is a bit like
Pimps > Hoes > Tricks
Most guys dont really get this, so they are stuck in the Trick frame and few capable guys remain single or practicing game long enough to develop the skills, knowledge or approach to be in the innermost, Alpha circle.
But hopefully there are enough high-value older guys out there cos these are real opportunities.
All the types of douchebag guys who cause problems generally fit into Beta category. They are not really the problem though, because women simply game them, as a hoe will game a trick for the pimp. But the issue is the the lack of Alpha guys.
For the woman, the most fun she is ever gonna have running Game, is just like a hoe, and hence the Game is the same whether in the pimp world or the square world. For the woman, she wants to game a beta male with resources, but she also needs to Game the Alpha Male. For a woman, its alot of fun to be in that energy with an Alpha guy but to be running Game on a Beta who wants her. For this to happen we cannot be in the marriage system but in a communal system, where the Alphas are the centre of the group and the betas are all the 'normies' who just want access to women and community. The betas can work and bring money and pay for **** and get attention from the women. The women wanna be in the Alphas good books because that is the difference between the alpha and the beta, and the alphas need the women and betas for power, stabiltiy, resources etc.
Anyway, I know I am getting theoretical and this can all sound a bit odd, but I think this stuff is definitely real and present IRL opportunities for the right men.
For men, the issue is simply that they are getting married and hence out of the Game. At this point, with the dating market wide open (polygamy, women working, social freedom) and the marriage proposition looking so bad, quality guys should really look at social group formation, because for guys with game and good social skills who are attractive and enjoy female interaction, this presents a better life than the standard marriage and nuclear family set up.
Personally, I know that there is demand for this type of thing from women, but to take advantage there needs to be the right type of guy to step up. This guy is someeone who women would consider high value which usually means serious dating or marriage type of guy. Obviously good looking, intelligent, masculine, social skills, 30+ etc.
It's true that social circles (community) is hard to find outside of the people we grow up with. It is generally to do with the fact that our society is still based upon the nuclear family and marriage model. In the past most men and women were married early, so the marital relationship pretty much defined the social circle and social events people went to. Most people socialised at their marital home, in their living room or garden.
As the traditional marriage system has broken down and more and more adults are single there is now a big gap in social interaction. This is related and is generally part of a wider atomization and break-down of society. Note, however, that Upper-Upper-Middle Classes have less of this problem. These people AFAIK have many more opportunities to socailise as they have access to parties and social events where they can access a certain quality of people, but more importantly, a certain quality of behaviour. The class system is a big part of this problem. I am sure Upper-UpperMiddle Class people in most 'Westernised' countries have many different types of advantages over 'lower' classes and socialising is no less important than business and networking opportunities, probably more so.
This seems to present opportunities for social group formation or possibly event organization. I am thinking the next step for me is to think about organizing parties and social events where people can meet and mingle.
Most Social Groups and Events break down due to a lack of leadership. This is because there is a huge dearth of high quality, older men available to Game young women (and men) and run these groups. This is because most of these types of guys are already married by the age of 35. Creating a social group like this requires these types of guys because younger men just cannot be in a group together without it falling apart.
For me, this is the line I am taking in my life. I can meet loads of women and 'Game' them especially now where I am working (hospitality) but I have no real credible value proposition to them other than being a bf or something casual. If I had a social group with good energy I could invite these girls out there and I feel like this is where it needs to go. I am thinking about organizing parties with drinks and food and keeping it for select people with good security and social vibe. Like hire out a hall or venue and then have food and some drinks for a flat fee, the girls I will game and make sure they are treating other girls well. The guys I dont know it depends on the guy, most are gonna be beta or 'average' guys who dont understand the setup so I just have to let the girls handle them.
Obviously my biggest problem is the lack of men available to work with set this up. This is because most guys dont understand the Game at this level. A natural human 'community' has the following structure:
Alpha Males > Women > Beta Males (imagine concentric circles)
This is a bit like
Pimps > Hoes > Tricks
Most guys dont really get this, so they are stuck in the Trick frame and few capable guys remain single or practicing game long enough to develop the skills, knowledge or approach to be in the innermost, Alpha circle.
But hopefully there are enough high-value older guys out there cos these are real opportunities.
All the types of douchebag guys who cause problems generally fit into Beta category. They are not really the problem though, because women simply game them, as a hoe will game a trick for the pimp. But the issue is the the lack of Alpha guys.
For the woman, the most fun she is ever gonna have running Game, is just like a hoe, and hence the Game is the same whether in the pimp world or the square world. For the woman, she wants to game a beta male with resources, but she also needs to Game the Alpha Male. For a woman, its alot of fun to be in that energy with an Alpha guy but to be running Game on a Beta who wants her. For this to happen we cannot be in the marriage system but in a communal system, where the Alphas are the centre of the group and the betas are all the 'normies' who just want access to women and community. The betas can work and bring money and pay for **** and get attention from the women. The women wanna be in the Alphas good books because that is the difference between the alpha and the beta, and the alphas need the women and betas for power, stabiltiy, resources etc.
Anyway, I know I am getting theoretical and this can all sound a bit odd, but I think this stuff is definitely real and present IRL opportunities for the right men.
For men, the issue is simply that they are getting married and hence out of the Game. At this point, with the dating market wide open (polygamy, women working, social freedom) and the marriage proposition looking so bad, quality guys should really look at social group formation, because for guys with game and good social skills who are attractive and enjoy female interaction, this presents a better life than the standard marriage and nuclear family set up.
Personally, I know that there is demand for this type of thing from women, but to take advantage there needs to be the right type of guy to step up. This guy is someeone who women would consider high value which usually means serious dating or marriage type of guy. Obviously good looking, intelligent, masculine, social skills, 30+ etc.
