manuplative girl i met at metro-horrible experience

[joe45]

met a girl at metrotown. i approached her and went direct. said she was cute and then got her number. 3 days later i call her and we chatted for 40 minutes. at the end i suggest we meet up for coffee. i ask her were is good. i suggest infront of london drugs on granville and she says parking is hard there and she suggest denman and robson. i say ok.
her -- what we going do on the date.
me- i say walk in park and have coffee.
her- then says ah arent you gonna take me out to dinner
me-ahhh sure where you want to eat
her- japanese sushi and sashimi
at that point im kind of wonderin and thinking oh great this girl has expectations and sashmi is expensive. first date i was thinking just lets go for coffee and walk in park .
the day come on friday and i wait for her at 7 at denman and robson and shes late 40 minutes. she text me sayin traffic and 10 min and turned out 40 min late.

i called her asking where are you at 7 25 and she gives me all this drama crap . my personal trainer quit on me, 2 ppl at work drop out their shift and i forgot my wallet.
im thinking oh great. if we eat i gotta pay and this girl late too. i suggest we sit at starbucks and drink coffee or get a pizza but she still commands the japanese sashmi. lol

she gets there and suggest this japanese restaurant. she already said she didnt bring her wallet so i have to pay. at that point we sit and go inside the restaurant and i say i gotta go in 10 min and my friend at that time calls and i pick up the phone and start talking to him. she gets off and walks out. i let her go

what a manulipative girl . she aint getting no dime from this real pimp sarger lol

 

[floydb25]

I dont know if manipulative is the right word... More like freeloading, selfish, drama-obsessed loser. Was she demanding, aggressive, and unsatisfied-looking? Stuck upish? Used to associate with this kind of prissy trash a lot.

You should've got rid of her as SOON as she asked about dinner. There was no hesitation, or even suggesting... More like condescending entitlement. That was the first red flag. Then, of course, she had excuses, because her time is so precious, and so is she.

HATE *****es like this. Theyre takers, and are more important than the universe. Thats why theres always so much "drama" in their lives. Everything is super important, and all about them. Over-exaggerations aplenty.

She wasnt interested in a casual get-together, because she wasnt interested in getting to know you... Just the services you could provide.

You never want to give-in to selfish *****es... They'll roll all over you... Like she did. Dont ask and agree... Thats just giving her fuel to use you.

 

[The Bat]

I dont know if manipulative is the right word... More like freeloading, selfish, drama-obsessed loser. Was she demanding, aggressive, and unsatisfied-looking? Stuck upish? Used to associate with this kind of prissy trash a lot.

You should've got rid of her as SOON as she asked about dinner. There was no hesitation, or even suggesting... More like condescending entitlement. That was the first red flag. Then, of course, she had excuses, because her time is so precious, and so is she.

HATE *****es like this. Theyre takers, and are more important than the universe. Thats why theres always so much "drama" in their lives. Everything is super important, and all about them. Over-exaggerations aplenty.

She wasnt interested in a casual get-together, because she wasnt interested in getting to know you... Just the services you could provide.

Somebody buy this man a drink...he nailed it right on the head.

Bravo OP for ditching this girl....most chumps would have stuck it out, bought the dinner, the whole dance, and ended up on here after jacking off to youporn for like 30 mins asking our advice about whether this girl is really interested or somewhat interested...

 

[Bible_Belt]

Notice that it all started with a cold approach. She was probably thinking about free sushi the moment you approached her.

The easiest person to con is the person who thinks they are the one conning you. The guy thinks he will con his way into her pants with a date. But the girl sees that, and realizes that he is an easy way to con a free dinner for herself.

 

[dap]

met a girl at metrotown. i approached her and went direct. said she was cute and then got her number. 3 days later i call her and we chatted for 40 minutes. at the end i suggest we meet up for coffee. i ask her were is good. i suggest infront of london drugs on granville and she says parking is hard there and she suggest denman and robson. i say ok.
her -- what we going do on the date.
me- i say walk in park and have coffee.
her- then says ah arent you gonna take me out to dinner
me-ahhh sure where you want to eat
her- japanese sushi and sashimi
at that point im kind of wonderin and thinking oh great this girl has expectations and sashmi is expensive. first date i was thinking just lets go for coffee and walk in park .
the day come on friday and i wait for her at 7 at denman and robson and shes late 40 minutes. she text me sayin traffic and 10 min and turned out 40 min late.

i called her asking where are you at 7 25 and she gives me all this drama crap . my personal trainer quit on me, 2 ppl at work drop out their shift and i forgot my wallet.
im thinking oh great. if we eat i gotta pay and this girl late too. i suggest we sit at starbucks and drink coffee or get a pizza but she still commands the japanese sashmi. lol

she gets there and suggest this japanese restaurant. she already said she didnt bring her wallet so i have to pay. at that point we sit and go inside the restaurant and i say i gotta go in 10 min and my friend at that time calls and i pick up the phone and start talking to him. she gets off and walks out. i let her go

what a manulipative girl . she aint getting no dime from this real pimp sarger lol

She stole the frame! Right from the begining! Wanna meet here for coffee? Nah, lets go here. Wanna walk in the park? Nah, lets get sushi. At this point, she is controlling the frame so she can show up whenever the f'uck she wants (40 minutes late).

 

[DonJuanabe]

Was going to reply at length but dap said what I was going to discuss -- you gave her the reigns and allowed her to lead you like a little puppy. She became the man and you became the woman. If she had any respect for you you allowed that to disappear. Don't let this happen again.

 

[BadNews]

Her: Aren't you going to take me out to dinner?
You: Slow down, let's start with a drink and a walk.

Pretty much this...take control bud.

 

[joe45]

She stole the frame! Right from the begining! Wanna meet here for coffee? Nah, lets go here. Wanna walk in the park? Nah, lets get sushi. At this point, she is controlling the frame so she can show up whenever the f'uck she wants (40 minutes late).

So how do u frame it so she does what u want or suggest. This girl was so combative and said oh I'm hungry no pizza I would gain 10 pounds. Combative and excuses

 

[NewAndImproved]

So how do u frame it so she does what u want or suggest. This girl was so combative and said oh I'm hungry no pizza I would gain 10 pounds. Combative and excuses

You become the kind of man who a girl knows she couldn't get away with that kind of nonsense in the first place. Those questions of "what we're going to do on this date" would not have been posed at all and if so would have been shut down with swiftness.

Between the let's say 10 minute cold approach and then 40 minute (CRINGE) phone conversation, she knew everything she ever needed to know about you... and what she could get away with. And that she did.

 

[Purefilth]

So how do u frame it so she does what u want or suggest. This girl was so combative and said oh I'm hungry no pizza I would gain 10 pounds. Combative and excuses

Not always possible. The best thing you can do at some points is walk away.

This one - although op did leave, he should not have waited 40 mins for.

I follow anti- dump. More than 20 minutes late no matter what excuses - walk.

 

[Cremasta]

i called her asking where are you at 7 25 and she gives me all this drama crap . my personal trainer quit on me, 2 ppl at work drop out their shift and i forgot my wallet.

Ah well, live and learn. But this was your Get Out Of Jail Free Card right here. You had the opportunity to say something like "Sounds like you've had a rough day, let's make it another time, give me a call when you're good to catch up."

Then delete her number.

 

[seethehoop]

You were seeking her approval from the start. You didn't lead. You should have lead from the beginning, you should have told her what you were doing, she tested your mantle and you failed. She wanted a man but you bent over backwards to accommodate her this turned her off and gave her a green light to take you for a ride. She saw your willingness to back down ass a sign of your manipulation and then felt no guilt about turning the tables.

 

[om1xr]

Another DRAMA Queen ....i have to things for you
1- Delete her number and NC
2- Walk away

NEXT .

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Too many PUA keyboard jockeys here talking about "frame" and "game".

Her MO from the beginning was "not interested, going to see if I can get a free dinner out of this guy."

Don't you guys get it? Game and technique is irrelevant. It wasn't going anywhere from the beginning no matter what he did.

Cut the PUA jargon and drop the attitude that you can always control a girl's attraction. You can't. Sometimes it is a losing battle from the beginning. Deal with it and move on. No need to analyze every aspect of your interactions.

 

[VladPatton]

Too many PUA keyboard jockeys here talking about "frame" and "game".

Her MO from the beginning was "not interested, going to see if I can get a free dinner out of this guy."

Don't you guys get it? Game and technique is irrelevant. It wasn't going anywhere from the beginning no matter what he did.

Cut the PUA jargon and drop the attitude that you can always control a girl's attraction. You can't. Sometimes it is a losing battle from the beginning. Deal with it and move on. No need to analyze every aspect of your interactions.

^^^THIS!!! Nuff said.