Manosphere makes the news on 2020

[LiveFreeX]

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/women-battle-online-anti-women-hate-manosphere/story?id=20579038

And what is the only defense against the manosphere.

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape!!

Goddamn, women can't keep their noses out of anything anymore. Instead of spending time on a men's forum, why don't you go doing something useful, like try and get married and bring up children.

The women's KGB will probably soon put a stop to anything manosphere related claiming it will somehow cause 'HATE' or 'RAPE'. Is it now illegal to dislike something? Will writing on the internet soon become a 'HATE' Crime. It's ok to bash guys for being angry but nobody bothers to look an the REASONS for HATE.

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Jubal Harshaw • 2 hours ago
BOTH misogyny AND misandry are defense mechanisms, learned (or taught) either intentionally or unintentionally. Teach hatred and cruelty, and that's what you get. Of course, it is always possible to teach the alternatives...pity so few really do.
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Jubal Harshaw • 4 hours ago −
'Tis been said, in some circles, that testosterone damages brain cells. Males, contrary to popular theory, are not indestructible or totally insensitive. Misogynists are not born, it is a defense reaction. Hatred is not compatible with a mature soul.

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NancyG2 • 4 hours ago
Women equally voice their dissatisfaction towards men online. Stating that men have the monopoly in voicing their displeasure towards the opposite gender is disingenuous. Moreover I think it's wrong to try to denigrate men by painting a picture as if they have taken over the internet and regressed back to a time where women had no rights. This article was ridiculous.
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Michelle NancyG2 • 3 hours ago
There is difference between voicing dissatisfaction and threatening to rape or kill someone.
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NancyG2 Michelle • 2 hours ago
You are right, there is a difference between voicing dissatisfaction and threatening to rape. My general point is that this article is trying to denigrate an entire gender for the acts of a few men. And women are aptly egregious. You have some women talking about cutting off genetalia or mudering this husbands.
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Michelle NancyG2 • 2 hours ago
No they are not denigrating an entire gender. They are being very specific about who is behaving and threatening this way. However you just clearly denigrated an enter gender. What some women do is not what all women do.
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Choconet Michelle • 2 hours ago
And what some men do is not what all men do...
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Michelle Choconet • 2 hours ago
Like I said, they are being very specific about who is doing these things.
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Dean Esmay Michelle • 31 minutes ago
...and very specifically wrong about it, too.
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Michelle Dean Esmay • 29 minutes ago
No they are right on target. But keep trying with that line.
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NancyG2 Michelle • 2 hours ago
That is incorrect. You are twisting my words. I never said all women speak of contemplation of committing these violent acts. What I did say to encompass all women is that all women are aptly egregious. Meaning both genders have the equal capability of being heinous.
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Britt NancyG2 • 2 hours ago
Go ahead and link us to these sites that have women threatening to rape men who ask for more recognition in a certain field, ie video games. Please, show me that and then I might see a valid argument. Until then you're just feeding the "male activists."
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Michelle NancyG2 • 2 hours ago
Then you should have stated that both genders are capable of behaving a certain way. However that was not what you did.
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NancyG2 Michelle • 2 hours ago
I did imply that and you're intentionally twisting my statements. I won't continue your game of intentionally misinterpreting what I have written. Good day.
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Janty Yaqoub NancyG2 • an hour ago
Thank you Nancy
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Winston Booth NancyG2 • an hour ago
I'm a third party. Your statements were not intentionally misinterpreted. Maybe if you take a long look at yourself and ask why pointing out men who threaten rape and murder and translate that as an attack on ALL men says about you.
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Michelle NancyG2 • 2 hours ago
No, but nice try.
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karendelandywalker Michelle • 2 hours ago
Wait, but you're using my own statements against me and I don't understand how you're doing it. You're making my point for me!?!? AHHHHHH!

That was fun. Thanks for that.
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Xira karendelandywalker • 2 hours ago
With all these organizations dedicated to advancing women men are falling behind.

For every 2 men who graduate college, 3 women do.

Women now out earn men in the younger age bracket. (22-30)

There are 10 men in jail for every women, despite not committing much more of the crime.

If a 14 year old girl and a 14 year old boy have sex, the boy is the one listed as a sex offender.

There are places in this country where 1/3 of the men are ineligible to vote because they are felons.

Women get the child in any divorce situation by default, and can usually get most of the money and a paycheck too.

If a woman doesn't want a child, she can abort it. If a man doesn't want a child, he has no say in the matter and the government will put him in jail if he doesn't submit to being used as an ATM for 18 years.

Women won. It's time to help out the men, who are the ones at real disadvantage today.
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ROXANNE Xira • an hour ago
This is concerning your statement of 'If a man doesn't want a child, he has no say in the matter'. He does have a say in the matter. He decides if he wants to keep it in his pants or put it into a unknown entity and risk making a baby. It's called self-control and if he has none then he also has no power.
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Mostafa ROXANNE • an hour ago
That's the same argument conservatives make regarding women who want to get abortions. For some reason, I doubt would recognize it as valid in that context.
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driversuz ROXANNE • 34 minutes ago
Of course women don't have to keep their pants on, do they? Because women have countless other ways to avoid the responsibilities of parenthood.
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Gloria Sass ROXANNE • 38 minutes ago
Roxanne, you just made the same argument pro-lifers make against abortion: Women don't have to get pregnant, so why do they need any reproductive rights after they've conceived?

If you believe it's right to tell one sex their control over their own parental status and responsibilities should be limited, but not the other, then you're sexist against the one you think should be more limited.
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Michelle Xira • an hour ago
Some of those stats are skewed and some are just false.

Men are more likely than women to go to a vocational school than women. Because the field they are entering doesn't require traditional college.

That crime statistic is made up. As is the sex offender information.

Anywhere male felons are ineligible to vote, female felons are also ineligible.

The stats on custody and alimony are also incorrect. Most parents agree on a custody arrangement. Alimony is potentially paid by the higher earner. That can be either spouse. Most couples split the joint assets, and are not doing what you claim.

If a straight man doesn't want a child he can use condoms and only sleep with women he knows are on contraception. He also has the option of a vasectomy or not having sex.
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KARMA MRA MGTOW Michelle • 36 minutes ago
"If a straight man doesn't want a child he can use condoms and only sleep with women he knows are on contraception."

"he knows are on contraception" and women never lie about this...

smirk...
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Michelle KARMA MRA MGTOW • 28 minutes ago −
Actually it is rare that women lie about that. Most women don't want to have a child with someone who you doesn't want to be with them.

This notion that women become pregnant to trap men is a myth. And like I said, men can always refrain from having sex.

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NancyG2 Rick Fictus • 2 hours ago
Let's not forget how it's okay for a woman to joke about a man's genetalia, but when a man jokes about a woman's body part he is instantly identified as a demeaning sexist.
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Steve Knight NancyG2 • 2 hours ago
because men have been doing it for as long as there has been men on this world. But both sexes are responsible for their mouths.
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Britt NancyG2 • 2 hours ago
Entirely wrong, obviously you don't hang out with youth.
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Steve Knight jackdaws • 2 hours ago −
hey looks like one of the very people this article speaks of. we are not talking about saying negative things we are talking about the threat of rape and violence.
So you are saying a woman is responsible for getting raped? beaten?
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driversuz Steve Knight • 31 minutes ago
"So are you saying...."
Words that are usually followed by what is NOT being said. I didn't even bother to read the rest of the sentence.
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[( . )( . )]

Grown men all of a sudden talk about game, chicks inherent hypergamic impulses now unchained and the current cash & prizes divorce epidemic = sky falls in .HATE SPEECH..RAAAAAAPE!!

https://www.google.com.au/#psj=1&q=men+should+be+castrated = *crickets chirping*

I agree with samspade. You should probably avoid the cathedral if you want to keep your sanity. That poisonous sh!t will kill a man's soul quicker than a hammer.

 

[Married Buried]

Here is Anita Sarkeesian as mentioned in the article. She's the feminist that runs everything and trying to shut down the manosphere.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dshot.jpg/220px-Anita_Sarkeesian_headshot.jpg


I wouldn't even pump and dump.

 

[Colossus]

Here is Anita Sarkeesian as mentioned in the article. She's the feminist that runs everything and trying to shut down the manosphere.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dshot.jpg/220px-Anita_Sarkeesian_headshot.jpg


I wouldn't even pump and dump.

Look at that sneering cvnty look on her smug face. I swear you can tell the intent of someone's soul by examining their face.

I agree with tits and sam, and I've backed wayyy off of posting and reading about MRM issues. It just makes you bitter and salty and frankly pollutes your outlook on life.

It sucks that misandry is just a term we use and not recognized as an actual problem by society. I do think the tide will turn though, eventually.

My 5-step program to restoring balance to the force:

1. Make yourself awesome in all facets of life.
2. Dont take sh!t from women.
3. Select ONLY high quality females who embrace positive femininity and traditional gender roles. Lesser females are not even worthy of a pump and dump, since this is a form of validation and attention.
4. Exercise leadership wherever possible.
5. Ignore the fem-cvnts.

 

[Colossus]

But in the meantime you'd better find your own happiness instead of wasting time convincing others.

Word life.

I agree with you on Return of Kings. I liked it a lot at first, but they are steadily digging their own grave. The positive tone they began with has devolved into internet jihad on anything that even whiffs of feminism. Things like "Fat Shaming Week" are only collectively putting red pill men behind in the public eye, because feminists will latch on to that and ride it into the ground. We forget they have more political and media leverage than we do---exponentially so---and over-the-top insult fests are only making men as a lot look bad. Roosh is a smart enough guy but he has lost perspective.

 

[London NATURAL]

Emily Pankhurst died in 1928, but I reckon we've got a headstart on her.
If only we (men) can stop ****ting on each other. Our competive'ness and lesser "social skills", are biting us on the arse.

My two cents

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

While Elam told "20/20" that his site does not promote violence or hate toward women, some of his writing appears otherwise. In a post on his website, Elam wrote that women on welfare are "little more than thinly disguised layabouts."

Dafuq is this guy talking about? Hasn't he seen Wallmart during EBT rush out?

ain't no "thinly" women there...

 

[PlayHer Man]

Just this week a man shot himself over a divorce

Read --> http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/16/police-man-shot-himself-set-md-home-on-fire/

Men are suffering in silence all over. Corrupt laws and a white knight society leave some men no way out besides death.

 

[Married Buried]

Just this week a man shot himself over a divorce

Read --> http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/16/police-man-shot-himself-set-md-home-on-fire/

Men are suffering in silence all over. Corrupt laws and a white knight society leave some men no way out besides death.

You left out the part where he shot himself and burned his house down, and he didn't even die. That's the worst possible outcome for this guy. What's next for him if he survives?

 

[dasein]

Sarkesian is such a liar. 99% of the hate she gets comes from the gaming community of both genders for inane whinging about how cartoon women are drawn in games, not from the "manosphere," which really doesn't care much about her.

 

[dasein]

Certainly new red pill converts need to be aware of the dangers of feminism. But once you've processed the political paradigm shift, there's a point where you either use it to your advantage - like Colossus' five steps - or you become consumed with jihad on feminism.

Agree on moving past it in our personal lives. Disagree on speaking out about it at every opportunity jihad or no. Feminism robs billions and billions of dollars annually from the productive of society and diverts it to the illusion of safety and support that women crave from the government. Men generally want to be left to their own devices free of government. Women generally want more and more protection, regulation and police, and don't have the frame of reference necessary to see that as stealing freedom from us all and at least counterproductive. It's not just about feminism, but a feminized govculture grown out of control.

We have our gynocentric culture to thank for our bloated government, hyperregulation, top in the world incarceration rate. 1 in 4 people are now either direct govt employees or in govt subsidized and related industries. That's insane and unsustainable. The female and feminist voting blocs bestow that horror on us, and no amount of speaking out about it or concern is too much IMO. It is the reason our economy has become like an anemic dog carrying around a 20 pound tick and lots of 5 pound fleas. In my professional career over decades, we have had one crisis or the other every few years, and all directly related to government growth and graft. The next is just around the corner, and if we don't do some reverting to mean, then the back-breaking straw is only a matter of time.

 

[( . )( . )]

Agree on moving past it in our personal lives. Disagree on speaking out about it at every opportunity jihad or no. Feminism robs billions and billions of dollars annually from the productive of society and diverts it to the illusion of safety and support that women crave from the government. Men generally want to be left to their own devices free of government. Women generally want more and more protection, regulation and police, and don't have the frame of reference necessary to see that as stealing freedom from us all and at least counterproductive. It's not just about feminism, but a feminized govculture grown out of control.

We have our gynocentric culture to thank for our bloated government, hyperregulation, top in the world incarceration rate. 1 in 4 people are now either direct govt employees or in govt subsidized and related industries. That's insane and unsustainable. The female and feminist voting blocs bestow that horror on us, and no amount of speaking out about it or concern is too much IMO. It is the reason our economy has become like an anemic dog carrying around a 20 pound tick and lots of 5 pound fleas. In my professional career over decades, we have had one crisis or the other every few years, and all directly related to government growth and graft. The next is just around the corner, and if we don't do some reverting to mean, then the back-breaking straw is only a matter of time.

This man knows the score, like a breath of fresh air. Stick around.

 

[origin138]

I think it's important to be a part of this discussion through personal actions and behaviors only. Trying to verbally debate with these people is the equivalent of trying to win the special olympics. I know, I've tried.

We have the power to act and react, and that's pretty much it. Though our actions in our dealings with women we convey our beliefs, power and values...not through our words. This is where the MRM goes south. They're trying to take a rational debate to people who will never be ready for it, and they're just being perceived as whiners, misogynists, and sexless losers. I wish more men would speak with their actions. Convey disgust with action, convey approval with action.

 

[Married Buried]

The most funny thing is these feminists have ridden more ****s than a horseback rider saddles. And what do they have to show for it?

 

[origin138]

Would still bang

I would too if she agreed to not talk and comply with everything I said. Dunno, I like brunettes.

 

[Solomon]

Agree on moving past it in our personal lives. Disagree on speaking out about it at every opportunity jihad or no. Feminism robs billions and billions of dollars annually from the productive of society and diverts it to the illusion of safety and support that women crave from the government. Men generally want to be left to their own devices free of government. Women generally want more and more protection, regulation and police, and don't have the frame of reference necessary to see that as stealing freedom from us all and at least counterproductive. It's not just about feminism, but a feminized govculture grown out of control.

We have our gynocentric culture to thank for our bloated government, hyperregulation, top in the world incarceration rate. 1 in 4 people are now either direct govt employees or in govt subsidized and related industries. That's insane and unsustainable. The female and feminist voting blocs bestow that horror on us, and no amount of speaking out about it or concern is too much IMO. It is the reason our economy has become like an anemic dog carrying around a 20 pound tick and lots of 5 pound fleas. In my professional career over decades, we have had one crisis or the other every few years, and all directly related to government growth and graft. The next is just around the corner, and if we don't do some reverting to mean, then the back-breaking straw is only a matter of time.

So besides talking about it whats the solution to address this problem?

 

[( . )( . )]

So besides talking about it whats the solution to address this problem?

That depends. If the solution doesn't involve white knighting da white wyminz, you gonna get all hysterical again?

 

[Solomon]

That depends. If the solution doesn't involve white knighting da white wyminz, you gonna get all hysterical again?

Ha no one is white knighting white chicks harder then the men of their own race....facts

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=196973

 

[Bokanovsky]

Golden.

That's why I've been a little disappointed in ReturnOfKings.com. It started out well but its writers are fixated on taking on the "Cathedral." I suppose if someone wants to fight that fight, more power to them, and nobody's forcing me to visit their site. I thought the "Fat Shaming Week" posts were a little overboard, but that's just me.

Certainly new red pill converts need to be aware of the dangers of feminism. But once you've processed the political paradigm shift, there's a point where you either use it to your advantage - like Colossus' five steps - or you become consumed with jihad on feminism. You as a single man or even part of some activist group will never effect that kind of change in your lifetime. What you can change are your decisions, your outlook, your friends, your weight, your income, and your happiness. In the grand scheme of things, if enough men change themselves, that's when the big societal changes will occur. But in the meantime you'd better find your own happiness instead of wasting time convincing others.

All good points. The reality of modern gender dynamics can make you bitter towards women in no time. Trying to dissociate yourself from this unpleasant reality may indeed be good for one's sanity. However, here's the catch-22. The "Cathedral" exists ONLY because men have adopted this kind of attitude...i.e. "the fight is not worth fighting, so I'm going to barricade myself in and live in my own little world". This is how they defeat and subjugate us...by convincing us not to resist in the first place.

You may think "f*ck it, I don't care about mankind...I just care about my own life". Problem is, you can't barricade yourself in from the rest of thew world indefinitely. For one thing, the supply on non-brainwashed, non-feminist women is short and ever-dwindling. If you want to deal with women, you will have to deal with femcvnts. The only other option is celibacy. Then, there's the ever pervasive nanny state. Even if you don't marry or cohabit with a woman, it will still get you one way or another whether through taxes (that disproportionately harm men and benefit women), anti-male prosecutors who aggressively pursue trumped-up sexual assault allegations or affirmative action laws that discriminate against men. No matter how much you try to distance yourself from the "Cathedral", sooner or later you will find yourself unfairly prosecuted for no other reason than having a penis.

 

[PlayHer Man]

You left out the part where he shot himself and burned his house down, and he didn't even die. That's the worst possible outcome for this guy. What's next for him if he survives?

He has died from his injuries.