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man, how do you forgive yourself?

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I have been feeling like s*it lately. ill wake up in the morning feeling like crap. ill start thinking about all the horrible things I did in my past. its killing me. I even prayed to god to forgive me, but now its hard for me to forgive myself. I feel so bad and its actually putting me down so much that I just want to sleep forever. I hate my life at the moment. The things I did in the past werent that bad but I wish I could tell all those people sorry for what I did to them. I believe I have been a better person its just my past is killing me. can someone please help?
 

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You need to research Yoga.

Of course, any resources of your particular Faith belief system.

Look specifically for


Karma Cleansing

Chakra Cleansing/ Opening.

Kundalini Awakening.

Yoga Nidra.

and any Meditation resources (MP3s, or videos) you can find about "forgiveness."
 

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How about you go visit all these people and make peace with them. Tell them how you feel, and get it off your chest.

I felt the same way about a family member before he died this year. I was never really mean, but I was distant emotionally to him. Next thing I knew, he was gone, with his last memory of me being one of apathy and indifference. It chewed me up for awhile, until I came to grips with it and decided to live differently. Now I try my best not to be indifferent toward people and their feelings.

How do you forgive somebody who isn't around anymore?

You can't, however you can make it up to them and turn that one negative interaction with the person into a positive one for everyone else. What more could one decent person ask of another?

It's up to you how you deal with this situation.
 

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I'll paste you one of my favorite movie quotes and then ask you something below it...

Nahari: I'm going to Hell! I killed a child! I smashed his head against a wall.
Gandhi: Why?
Nahari: Because they killed my son! The Muslims killed my son!
[indicates boy's height]
Gandhi: I know a way out of Hell. Find a child, a child whose mother and father have been killed and raise him as your own.
[indicates same height]
Gandhi: Only be sure that he is a Muslim and that you raise him as one.


Is there anything you can do to symbollically get forgiveness for what you've done if you can't face the people you've harmed and get it directly?

Perhaps you have seen people about to be harmed in some way that you have harmed others and you can prevent that by warning these people somehow and in so doing get your own forgiveness.
 

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johnny_depp said:
I have been feeling like s*it lately. ill wake up in the morning feeling like crap. ill start thinking about all the horrible things I did in my past. its killing me. I even prayed to god to forgive me, but now its hard for me to forgive myself. I feel so bad and its actually putting me down so much that I just want to sleep forever. I hate my life at the moment. The things I did in the past werent that bad but I wish I could tell all those people sorry for what I did to them. I believe I have been a better person its just my past is killing me. can someone please help?
dude! i am that way sometimes...i kept thinking about the sh1tty past i had, the wrong people i hung out with, the stupid things i did with those dumb people, the stupid things i did to myself,etc...sometimes i wake up upset and wished i could sleep forever...

but you know what?? Things have changed man... because we were just young and stupid back then, we know better now. You need to forget about your past and create a positive future! You can do it man. You can re-invent who you are. Dont let all the things you did, and how you think people perceive you define who you are man. Things are changing for us all. We will be who we are destined to become. We will grow from Boys to Men.

give me your AIM sn i got some David Deangelo stuff that might help you realize some things.
 

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This is an interesting article I found, might help you let go of your regrets.

The World's Most Unusual Therapist
by Dr. Joe Vitale

Two years ago, I heard about a therapist in Hawaii who cured a complete ward of criminally insane patients -- without ever seeing any of them. The psychologist would study an inmate's chart and then look within himself to see how he created that person's illness. As he improved himself, the patient improved.

When I first heard this story, I thought it was an urban legend. How could anyone heal anyone else by healing himself? How could even the best self-improvement master cure the criminally insane?

It didn't make any sense. It wasn't logical, so I dismissed the story. However, I heard it again a year later. I heard that the therapist had used a Hawaiian healing process called ho'oponopono. I had never heard of it, tyet I couldn't let it leave my mind. If the story was at all true, I had to know more.

I had always understood "total responsibility" to mean that I am responsible for what I think and do. Beyond that, it's out of my hands. I think that most people think of total responsibility that way. We're responsible for what we do, not what anyone else does. The Hawaiian therapist who healed those mentally ill people would teach me an advanced new perspective about total responsibility.

His name is Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len. We probably spent an hour talking on our first phone call. I asked him to tell me the complete story of his work as a therapist. He explained that he worked at Hawaii State Hospital for four years. That ward where they kept the criminally insane was dangerous.
Psychologists quit on a monthly basis. The staff called in sick a lot or simply quit. People would walk through that ward with their backs against the wall, afraid of being attacked by patients. It was not a pleasant place to live, work, or visit.

Dr. Len told me that he never saw patients. He agreed to have an office and to review their files. While he looked at those files, he would work on himself. As he worked on himself, patients began to heal.

"After a few months, patients that had to be shackled were being allowed to walk freely," he told me. "Others who had to be heavily medicated were getting off their medications. And those who had no chance of ever being released were being freed."

I was in awe.

"Not only that," he went on, "but the staff began to enjoy coming to work.
Absenteeism and turnover disappeared. We ended up with more staff than we needed because patients were being released, and all the staff was showing up to work. Today, that ward is closed."

This is where I had to ask the million dollar question: "What were you doing within yourself that caused those people to change?"

"I was simply healing the part of me that created them," he said.

I didn't understand.

Dr. Len explained that total responsibility for your life means that everything in your life -- simply because it is in your life -- is your responsibility. In a literal sense the entire world is your creation.

Whew. This is tough to swallow. Being responsible for what I say or do is one thing. Being responsible for what everyone in my life says or does is quite another. Yet, the truth is this: if you take complete responsibility for your life, then everything you see, hear, taste, touch, or in any way experience is your responsibility because it is in your life.

This means that terrorist activity, the president, the economy -- anything
you experience and don't like -- is up for you to heal. They don't exist, in a manner of speaking, except as projections from inside you. The problem isn't with them, it's with you, and to change them, you have to change you.

I know this is tough to grasp, let alone accept or actually live. Blame is far easier than total responsibility, but as I spoke with Dr. Len, I began to realize that healing for him and in ho'oponopono means loving yourself. If you want to improve your life, you have to heal your life. If you want to cure anyone -- even a mentally ill criminal -- you do it by healing you.

I asked Dr. Len how he went about healing himself. What was he doing,
exactly, when he looked at those patients' files?

"I just kept saying, 'I'm sorry' and 'I love you' over and over again," he
explained.

That's it?

That's it.

Turns out that loving yourself is the greatest way to improve yourself, and as you improve yourself, your improve your world. Let me give you a quick example of how this works: one day, someone sent me an email that upset me. In the past I would have handled it by working on my emotional hot buttons or by trying to reason with the person who sent the nasty message.
This time, I decided to try Dr. Len's method. I kept silently saying, "I'm sorry" and "I love you," I didn't say it to anyone in particular. I was simply evoking the spirit of love to heal within me what was creating the outer circumstance.

Within an hour I got an e-mail from the same person. He apologized for his previous message. Keep in mind that I didn't take any ******d action to get that apology. I didn't even write him back. Yet, by saying "I love you," I somehow healed within me what was creating him.

I later attended a ho'oponopono workshop run by Dr. Len. He's now 70 years old, considered a grandfatherly shaman, and is somewhat reclusive. He praised my book, The Attractor Factor. He told me that as I improve myself, my book's vibration will raise, and everyone will feel it when they read it. In short, as I improve, my readers will improve.

"What about the books that are already sold and out there?" I asked.
"They aren't out there," he explained, once again blowing my mind with his mystic wisdom. "They are still in you."

In short, there is no out there.

It would take a whole book to explain this advanced technique with the depth it deserves. Suffice it to say that whenever you want to improve anything in your life, there's only one place to look: inside you.

"When you look, do it with love."
 

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the only thing that matters is today. you are what you think about. if you keep thinking aobut how you F'ed off your life, you will be F'ing off the rest of your life thinking about it. When you get in bed tonight, think postive thoughts. think about how much you are going to accomplish tomorrow.l think about how great you are going ot feel when you cross that last thing on the list. think about how much closer you are going to be getting towards your ulitmate goals (whatever they may be).

Also, the mistakes you made, go back and rethink them, this time with the outcome that should have happened. if you looked at the list of your to do list and it said "do 100 pushups" and you look at it for 10 mintues than make an excuse of not doing it, go back and relive it. Eventualy you will get it right.

it's all in your mind. the mind is the most powerful thing on earth
 

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Volunteer. Go to a homeless shelter and serve meals. Join "Meals On Wheels" and take food to the elderly. There are hundreds of organizations that would be very happy to have a willing pair of hands with the holidays coming up.

This will help you on two levels:
1-You will make positive changes in another person's life
2-You'll see your own life isn't as fukced up as you thought it was.
 

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Watch the show my name is earl. You could be Earl. What Earl does is he has a list of people he's wronged in the past, and because of Karma, each episode he tries to check off one person on his list, by righting the wrong that he did to them. It seems to work for Earl.
 

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Yeah that's the way uh huh uh huh. I like it uh huh uh huh

Alright here's what you do. You just forget about it. It's easy when you give a crap about other people.

Playing some halo/pciking up girls/eating some deep dish also helps.
 

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Watch the show my name is earl. You could be Earl. What Earl does is he has a list of people he's wronged in the past, and because of Karma, each episode he tries to check off one person on his list, by righting the wrong that he did to them. It seems to work for Earl.
Dammit! I was gonna say that :p
 

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Mr.Positive said:
Watch the show my name is earl. You could be Earl. What Earl does is he has a list of people he's wronged in the past, and because of Karma, each episode he tries to check off one person on his list, by righting the wrong that he did to them. It seems to work for Earl.
I watch that show its cool, but what if im never going to see these people again what do I do then? the people I hurt in the past I have no idea where there at today. Should I just pray for them?

Also I thank everyone on here. Thanks alot.:rockon:
 

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A quote from a very insightful person in the forum:
Francisco d'Anconia said:
...a person's history doesn't have to define him, what matters is what he's learned and his actions from this point on...
Good stuff... :up:
 

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Trap #2: The Trap of Yesterday Yesterday. Was yesterday good or bad? Why do you even care? Are you ever going to feel what you felt yesterday again? Probably. BUT are you going to be in that EXACT situation ever again? Hell no. Yesterday is over. Whatever happened yesterday is done and over with, and is a part of your life forever. Live for today, yesterday could have been the best day of your life, it could have been the worst day of your life, it could even have been an average day. What difference does it make? It’s over no matter what. Live in the present no matter how terrible the present is. Don’t forget about those great memories of yesterday, they are all you have. But don’t dwell on them. Look to the past only when you want to remember an old friend, or an old place, or an old feeling, or an old situation. Remembering a great feeling every now and then is completely different than living in that feeling, or trying to make that feeling last longer than it was meant. Again, live for today. It’s all that matters.

Taken from KillaPeteHog-DJBible
 

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WaterTiger said:
Volunteer. Go to a homeless shelter and serve meals. Join "Meals On Wheels" and take food to the elderly. There are hundreds of organizations that would be very happy to have a willing pair of hands with the holidays coming up.

This will help you on two levels:
1-You will make positive changes in another person's life
2-You'll see your own life isn't as fukced up as you thought it was.
By doing things like this you are balancing out your Negative Karma with Positive Karma.

Remember this, the next time someone "randomly" asks you to help them, THAT IS YOUR CHANCE.

Be aware of who "manifests" into your Life.


Pay attention to the seemingly "random" coincidences.

There is something going on here, but you have to be conscious of what it is . Don't miss that opportunity.
 

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the problem with a lot of people i know, is how do you forgive yourself for something you did to someone who has died and did not forgive you or did not ever clarify that they did forgive you?
 
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