Mall Game is the Only game

[evansblue]

I was walking around the mall yesterday and decided to grab some lunch in the food court. I sat there, gorging myself on fake Chinese food, listening to the pianist playing softly in the background, while watching all these sexy women strutting their stuff with Macy's bags in their hands.

There's just something about the atmosphere in a mall that puts me in a good mood. It's like a city within a city, but most importantly - it's one of the very few venues where attractive women outnumber men. It was almost a 3 to 1 ratio, which is just the opposite with the bar scene where it's meat market central.

There's virtually no competition from other guys either. A lot of them walking around in the mall are full blown metrosexuals, or bordering on pillow biter status. The straight ones for the most part don't dare approach a girl (even though they want to) because there's no liquid courage involved.

It's also much easier to gauge a girl's reaction. There's a lot less deception during the day, and obviously their shield is significantly lower which means you're going to get a more candid response, which is a good thing. If they're not interested, you'll know. The last thing I want is a girl who seems receptive and readily gives the number, only to blow me off (unfortunately not literally) when I send a follow-up text. Reminiscent of the night scene.

I alternate between three different malls in my city, and plow through the field pretty good. I'll try to get 4 or 5 numbers and I'm out of there. The nice thing about getting a number during the day is that it's a great segue to meeting up for a drink.

Day game: Number ---> Bar: Conversation ---> Your place: Sex

90% of guys leave out the first ingredient in the courting process, and that's a crucial element in the player's satchel. By the time you're in the bar with her, the roles should already be established and it's a steady escalation to getting physical, like clockwork. Too many guys get pumped up on the sauce and try to squeeze the number, the conversation, and the physical aspect into the first interaction they have with a girl, and that's why so many fail with the bar/club scene.

Remember this about the night life - the people that are sleeping with each other are the ones that walk in together.

 

[JCballin88]

You're right about the ratios being better in the mall, that's for sure. I think a lot of times though it's more intimidating because girls are in big groups and usually in a hurry going from place to place.

Care to share some of your strategies on approaches and examples of conversations you use?

 

[JCballin88]

Sry, double post

 

[Mr Wright]

I dont personally do much day game, i do more social circle and night game. But from the guys I know who do daygame they say that when you get a phone number its generally more solid but getting a number is harder. Also in the daygame you need to go direct otherwise you could spend about 20 minutes talking to a girl whos got a boyfriend, whilst at night its pretty obvious what you want, a girl can just pawn you away pretty quickly if she doesnt want to know.

I suppose there are pros and cons to both. In night game its easier to get SNL's etc. But if you're trying to date the hottest women, its probably easier to chat them up during the day, however, you have to find them and they're usually all together in a club...swings in roundabouts.

 

[Stagger Lee]

This is a really good post and a lot of discussion could arise from it. I think besides the reasons mentioned a lot of guys shy away from day gaming at the mall because there are a lot of girls under 21 and even under 18, they don't want to wander around the mall and approach girls and not really buy anything, and that they just feel anxiety about approaching women in such an openly public area and feeling on display.

Maybe you could address some of that? And maybe where in the mall you favor to make the approach, in the main walkway area vs, in the stores etc, and how long does it take you to find the targets and successful get 3 or 4 numbers.

I haven't done much day game in a long while. I think it has its advantages and it used to be about the only day game in the early 90's. But it is has it's drawbacks and the fact that few other guys are doing is kind of like sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason. If you do well in Day game you probably will do OK in night game if you apply the effort. And if you are not doing good in night game you probably won't do well in day game.

Day game: Number ---> Bar: Conversation ---> Your place: Sex

That's also how I work the "dates" I find from internet sites.

Remember this about the night life - the people that are sleeping with each other are the ones that walk in together.

I've been suspecting this also for several years. The girls may not walk into the bar with the guys, but they come with other girls, and they've invited guys out that they know. With texting and online social networking, I believe what is going on in a bar is more of the merging of social networks than it is guys cold approaching and picking up the girls. There's some of that, but it's more like friends of friends hooking up.

 

[Vice]

This is a really good post and a lot of discussion could arise from it. I think besides the reasons mentioned a lot of guys shy away from day gaming at the mall because there are a lot of girls under 21 and even under 18, they don't want to wander around the mall and approach girls and not really buy anything, and that they just feel anxiety about approaching women in such an openly public area and feeling on display.

Maybe you could address some of that? And maybe where in the mall you favor to make the approach, in the main walkway area vs, in the stores etc, and how long does it take you to find the targets and successful get 3 or 4 numbers.

The under 18 thing bothers me, but you'll make sure to eventually find out what her age is, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

You don't need to buy anything to be in a mall. That's just BS social conditioning. If she asks what you were doing there, just tell her you were looking for a (a pair of board shorts, a shirt, etc.) and you decided that you didn't want to miss the opportunity of meeting her.

I haven't done much day game in a long while. I think it has its advantages and it used to be about the only day game in the early 90's. But it is has it's drawbacks and the fact that few other guys are doing is kind of like sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason. If you do well in Day game you probably will do OK in night game if you apply the effort. And if you are not doing good in night game you probably won't do well in day game.

David DeAngelo says that if you do well in a night club/bar, approaching girls during the day is easy. And it's true. After a few approaches during the night, even if they don't go ideally, can prime me to be way more comfortable approaching a girl during the day.