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LTR's - the big hoax

PimpNHard

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Guys, its time for a real reality check. Committed LTR's are, for the most part a scam. I mean think about it, do the math; all reports, stats, and polls I've read indicate that the majority of marriages fail. Marriage is supposed to be the ultimate goal of an LTR, but somewhere close to 80% fail. Look at your own life; how many chicks have you been with (dated or LTR) and how many are still in your life? This it what makes that "Kill that Desperation" part of your DJ training so crucial. See alot of you guys are in the game searching for that "perfect" woman, that one you can marry, when the truth is most of the relationships formed will end at one point or another. I'm finally coming to the realization that it does no good to approach the "game" with this mindset.

When you approach a chick with the hopes of an LTR you are setting yourself up for disaster. First off, most chicks count on a man to come at them with this type of thinking. They know you are looking for that "girlfriend" or "significant other". Most females have fine-tuned their "game" or social interaction to play into this some kind of way. This is how so many guys get taken for suckers and have some scandalous female "take" all of their money or use them as an "emotional sponge". See, chicks are naturally aware of the fact that most relationships do not last forever. They usually use it to their advantage. You see it all the time; some chick has a guy totally hooked and wrapped around her finger thinking he has just hit the jackpot and landed the "woman" of his dreams. All you guys having problems where a chick is giving you all the "right signs" but still turns you down, the fact of the matter is FEMALES LIE (wrote a whole post on it) and this is why. Most of them could care less. They know they are in a relationship that probably won't last forever and they are usually in control of it.

Society has geared male-female interaction to put the female in control of the progress and depth of it. I mean think about it, when you approach a chick the outcome of every advance you make is totally dependent on the opinion of the female. When you meet a chick its up to her to talk to you then decide how far it atually goes (phone numbers, dates, a$$, etc...). Then if you get some progress, its only a matter until you begin arguing so much you two could start a debate team.

Personally, I've been through enough to get sick of it. The best thing we as DJs can do is approach it with an easygoing, "I don't care what happens" attitude. When I meet a chick I just go for it when the timing is good and whatever happens, happens. I take everything they say with a grain of salt, if they tell me something I let there actions prove it before I take it seriously and even then I watch them (female are flaky creatures). Guys, take your time getting involved with ANY woman. They can sense any type of desperation, and if given ample opportunity will typically take advantage of it. I believe we meet every person we come in contact with for a reason, and most of the time only for a season.

As hard as it is the unprogram that "one girl for me" or "i gotta get a g/f" mentality - its the best thing in a world and time like this. There are females that actually look for guys thinking like this as "marks" they prey upon. They flatter the sucker into believing he's "king in her eyes" then charm his pants off, along with his wallet. Let's say you get into a "real" LTR, then comes the issue of fidelity. It is so easy with all the different avenues of communication these days for women (and men) to meet people and communicate on a romantic (or sexual) level, she's bound to meet someone somewhere that at least appears to be offering a little more than you are. But the sad thing is you are her "safety net" she has already put you in that "safe place" and knows that you're hooked. Think she's gonna lose that? An honest female will not hold you but sadly gents most are not honest, especially when it comes to this.

I'm not trying to scare anyone out of their beliefs, but I believe we could all benefit by keeping things in perspective. Don't set yourself up for failure.
 

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How many g/f's have you had? How many are you still communicating with?

Chances are the 1st number far outweighs the last.

Or maybe you are that good.....
 

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supergig!

I agree this dude doenst know what he is talking about.

LTR's are how it is supposed to be..its human nature to be in love u dope
 

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YOU SEE THIS IS GOOD...THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE COMING TO THE LIGHT AND BECOMING A MAN!

SON i am proud to say if you ever need any advice feel free to write to me h2otiburon@aim.com or im me at h2otiburon. You are starting to understand one thing in lifes this idiots never will. Keep up your path to manhood...except dont think about marriage ..it'll come soon enough when you leats expect it..For now just fvck alot and learn as much as you can so you dont get played buy experts . IGnorance is not A BLISS! AND IN THE WORLD IS PLAY OR GET PLAYD AND WOMEN ARE ALOT COLDER THAN MEN AND THINK ALWAYS THEM FIRST( 99Percent) unless they have a son( then its a bit more complicated)


NOTHING IS GUARANTEED !
 

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It is true that love is core human emotion. But what's LOVE? Is it what happens when some guy struggling to make it on his own gets duped by some pretty (but truly bitter) female into being her "stool pigeon" and paying her way through life while she does the nasty with whoever and whatever? Unfortunately this is the truth behind what alot of female "package" and sell as love.

REAL love comes about when a person first loves themselves (not because of who they are with or the fact that they can get a girl) and expresses love to another person. Real love is a ideal that is in truth extremely scarce in today's AFC-ridden society.

Best advice: educate, protect, and invest in yourself.
 

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so I dont care..I am a Dj or whatever you want to call it.

some pigeon hoe doesnt come and fyck me over..why because I dont let it happen :)


maybe for the afc's out there ur right.

but believe me....I will marry a great women..and have a long lasting LTR when I know im with the right women.
 

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frivolousz21, seems you get my point EXACTLY.

You don't LET these things happen to you. It seems, from alot of these posts, that there are alot of AFCs out here who do. I hope they all take a lesson from here instead of having to learn the hard way.

As I said this does not apply to ALL LTRs but if you really look at it you will be in more LTRs than that special one that lasts "forever". In the meantime I think its better that us DJs take the right approach, just have fun, and learn what we can.
 

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Originally posted by PimpNHard
It is true that love is core human emotion. But what's LOVE? Is it what happens when some guy struggling to make it on his own gets duped by some pretty (but truly bitter) female into being her "stool pigeon" and paying her way through life while she does the nasty with whoever and whatever? Unfortunately this is the truth behind what alot of female "package" and sell as love.

REAL love comes about when a person first loves themselves (not because of who they are with or the fact that they can get a girl) and expresses love to another person. Real love is a ideal that is in truth extremely scarce in today's AFC-ridden society.

Best advice: educate, protect, and invest in yourself.
The reason most long-term relationships fail is because most people don't have a f*cking clue what love is...they think the first pretty girl who makes their heart go pitter-patter is the one who they should be with the rest of their lives.

You're right that THAT is an ignorant outlook.

First of all, you don't marry for love. EVER. You marry because you want to start a family with this person. The biological reason for marriage is to conceive and raise children. All this "love" sh!t just clouds the issue. You can THINK you're in love and then find out it was just a passing fancy when it's too late. It's MUCH harder to deceive yourself into thinking that you want a woman to be the mother of your children.
 

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lol no you are wrong :

What will happen is that you will marry a woman that you think is great!

Better man than you and I have failed at this and if it happened to them it could happen to you.! NOTHING IS GUARANTEED IN LIFE GET THAT THROUGH!
 

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Marry for love?

What you atlking about ...ofcourse if you marry someon you must love them...otherwise why marry ? Your confusing love with maturity.

To marry someone you need to love them ..but you need to be mature and be able to put your love and the woman for what she is in a scale. and make a though decision if you have to and in the edn hope for something better alone.

I see your point i though that way at a point in my life ..long time ago...but its wrong. That would not be a marriage. and the ones taht will suffer are your kids!
 

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I know that even the best of the best LTR isnt perfect.


now if she cheats on me or some BS its done.


but over a lifetime I will work with my wife to make sure we have a great family and a good home for my kids.

in the meantime a great friendship, sex life, and fullfillment with her.

not every women is a *****.

stop loooking for the bleech blonde bytches with 2 cell phones a 99 mustang and are in college.


:)
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Re: Re: LTR's - the big hoax

Originally posted by SuperGigaloDJ
OK this is just idiotic. :rolleyes:
AFC frustration set on 'high.'
 

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Re: Re: LTR's - the big hoax

Originally posted by SuperGigaloDJ
OK this is just idiotic. :rolleyes:
I don't agree with everything that pimp said, but he does make some good points. I think men truly do think they're going to be with a certain woman for the rest of their lives, only to have the rug pulled out from underneath him at the worst possible moment.


Gig thinks it's idiotic, yet wanted to set a girl he supposedly loves up for a threesome? Someone should tell his girl to give his "Justin Timberlake" looking azz walking papers.

Men do "fall in love" more easily than women; we would love to find the right girl and live happily ever after. But it's hard to do that when these maniacle, scheming bytches look at your relationship like a business arrangement. When the arraingment is over, out the door you go.
 

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Quote - jprjrjr
But it's hard to do that when these maniacle, scheming bytches look at your relationship like a business arrangement. When the arraingment is over, out the door you go.

haha the b*tches or h0s scheme

look at it like a buisness arrangment

when the contract expires they leave


SOUNDS LIKE REAL PIMPIN' !

they want to act like prostitutes the only way you are going to stay safe in a buisness arrangment with them is to have the right mindset. a pimp mindset.


Lost In Translation :D

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
 

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LTRs are good but both people need to be mature. Most mature girls that are the LTR type are taken early on or are always in some committed relationship. Very rarely will you find them single, and if they are, it won't be for that long. What does that leave? Flake city.
 

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I am with PimpNHard on this one, to a certain degree. I wouldn't say LTR's are a hoax, but i definitely agree that the man must not be head over heels over a woman just because she accepted to be with him.

I say go for the LTR if the woman seems right, but never fully trust her and what she says. Protect your heart, as someone on these boards has said.
 

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I say, don't be afraid to fail in any relationship. However, it is important to note the potential damage that a failed marriage can cause the man. For anything that requires no legal responsibilities, just go all out and have fun man. If you're afraid the girl will do all sorts of nasty things to you, you really ain't gonna enjoy girls in general because you'll always be suspicious, cautious, paranoid and downright nasty towards her.

The best part is that you're already aware of the potential crap that women can serve you. With this knowledge and awareness, you should have the upper hand on her as you won't be expecting more from the relationship compared to her.

Be fearless with women. And don't cry like a baby when things don't work out. You already know what women are capable of.
 

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IMHO I agree. In life, you just have to go along with it, take it as it comes and try to enjoy it.

Have some LTR, marry one girl, try to spend the rest of your life with her and create a family with her. If it doesnt work out, move on with your life from her, find someone else eventually. I heard a friend tell me a good saying once, he said, "not everything thats meant to be, is always gonna last". Very very true.

Although where did you get your stats that 80% of marriages fail..............I heard it was 50%. So your odds are still pretty good.
 
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