LTR Concepts

[TheTrimReaper]

OK, so you've found a honey worthy of your presence. After all, you are a Mack. Since you have chosen this girl out of the enormous skirt-pool, you want to make sure the relationship is one that is lasting and fulfilling. Here is how you do it.

Lets begin by looking at the two elements which cause relationships to go south.

The first factor is 'Familiarity.' When we have something all the time, it becomes commonplace, nothing special. It's human nature to do this. Therefore, it is necessary to maintain your relationship on a constant basis. Learn to give your partner what they desire, but not too much of it.

Also, you have to find out what they want in the first place. They won't always tell you because, in fact, they often don't know themselves. Now you see why it's so important to find the best woman you can!
I'll talk about maintaining your relationship a little later.

The second factor which does in relationships is 'Submodality failure.' This comes when we don't understand our partners concept of giving and receiving love. Some people are kinesthetic. They associate great feelings with being touched. Others are auditory. Hearing the words "I love you" from a deep, resonant voice makes them feel a huge amount of pleasure. And the last bunch of the group is the visual folks. They respond most to what they see.

Often people assume that their lover has the same concept of giving and recieving love. The visual person might think his girlfriend will be so touched when she sees the red roses he bought her, but what if shes an auditory person? A genuine "I love you" said by the same man would make her feel emotions vastly stronger.

Therefore, it is critical that you find out your partner's love strategy. You can do this by paying attention to how she describes things, and by paying attention to her reactions when you do certain things which trigger her senses. Ask her about the time in her life when she felt the most love. Then be quiet and listen dumbsh*t! She's going to spill her guts to you and provide you with her "Love Manual."

Notice how everything I have mentioned is an "End," not a "Means." Give her satisfaction on the deepest level. You are a means for her happiness, so provide her with the ends she wants.

By satisfying her needs on the most basic and intense level, you will establish an anchor in her mind. She will start to see you as a source(hopefully the most important)of pleasure in her life. Furthermore, it is important that you avoid creating negative anchors in her mind. If she starts to associate more pain, or boredom, than pleasure from you, Ciao!

Now here's where it gets tricky. Remember, as I said earlier, woman don't usually know what they want. So keep in mind that the preceding ideas are not meant to make you into an AFC. Really, women like to be treated like Sh*t! This really does give them pleasure. So give em' what they want. You might feel guilty doing it, but realize that she is important to you. You want to satisfy her needs right?!

Nothing in life that has any value can be created without absolute commitment.
-Tony Robbins

This is so true. It applies to everything, so memorize it and live by it.

 

[Gipper]

Very nice tip! Sounds like you've put a lot of thought into this.

Gipper

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"There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know you're money, and that you want to party.
-Trent, from "Swingers"

Love is the self-delusion we manufacture to justify the trouble we take to have sex.
-Daniel S. Greenberg

 

[TheTrimReaper]

Thanks Gipper.

I'm currently in the process of changing jobs, and the job I'm studying for requires a basic knowledge of Psychology. I'm really looking forward to sharing what I learn with you guys. I want us all to get everything we want out of this life.

Cheers

 

[Wyldfire]

A good way to tell what a woman (or man for that matter) wants and likes is to pay attention to what they do to and for you. If you notice she plays with your hair a lot or nibbles on your ear all the time...that is her way of communicating to you what she would like you to do to or for her. If when you are stressed, she gives you a massage...it's a sure sign she'd like you to do the same. This also works in the negative aspect as well. If you're doing something she is unhappy with, she will do the very same thing as a way to communicate her unhappiness. For every action, word and behavior a woman has towards you...it is either directly or indirectly tied to your actions, words and behaviors. Women are reactionary in how they communicate...they will "show" you uch more frequently than "tell" you how they are feeling about the relationship.

 

[VeryBadGirl]

You were all good up to the treat her like sh*t part. That may work for some women... but not for a smart woman. Or perhaps it is just me.

 

[laskoe]

In a LTR if your girl is mad at you and
she is a visual person say "i can see why you are angry"
if she respodns to hearing say " i can hear how angry you are"
if she reponds to touch say " i can feel that you are angry"

this has gotten me out of girl-troubles before, it is as if i am agreeing with them on a new level. my idea is that, once they understand that you see thier side, your job is done.

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"If you overdo Anything with a girl, you are mostlikely an AFC" Laskoe

 

[SoSuave.com]

Tips forum.

 

[TesuqueRed]

Reaper's stuff is pretty hard-core NLP, but with a twist at the end that had me ROTFLMAO. I wasn't expecting that (and the earlier stuff is refreshing to read and a good reminder.)

Wyldfire's post reminds me of a fundamental principle I've adopted since coming here: look at the actions, not the words. Her take on that is an interesting flip to that principle since it's not merely a restatement but a new take on it. I suppose we should call it the Wyldfire postulate? Maybe corollary is the better word choice.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by TesuqueRed:
Reaper's stuff is pretty hard-core NLP, but with a twist at the end that had me ROTFLMAO. I wasn't expecting that (and the earlier stuff is refreshing to read and a good reminder.)

Wyldfire's post reminds me of a fundamental principle I've adopted since coming here: look at the actions, not the words. Her take on that is an interesting flip to that principle since it's not merely a restatement but a new take on it. I suppose we should call it the Wyldfire postulate? Maybe corollary is the better word choice.

LOL...it's true, though. But it's not limited to women. All people do it to an extent. When we give to a person it's personal, and anything that's personal tends to have the markings of our own desires on it. Women do communicate this way far more often then men do, though. This is the easiest method to give a person what they crave sexually, especially women. Whatever she does to you (without you asking for) is her way of telling you what she wants from you.

 

[WildThang]

Originally posted by Wyldfire:
Whatever she does to you (without you asking for) is her way of telling you what she wants from you.

...But only up to a point. And not a very big point.

If a woman cooks for you, does that mean she wants to be cooked for? Sometimes yes. Often no.

If she gives you a massage, does that mean she wants a massage? Sometimes she wants to share. But sometimes no. In fact sometimes she'll say 'No, just lie there and let me do it.'

If she shops for you, does that mean she wants to be shopped for? Hardly ever.

So guys - I wouldn't take this as any kind of gospel. The NLP thing is way closer to the truth. It is *far more useful* to elicit responses, by asking 'What did it feel like when you were most...?' and then 'What does that mean to you...?'than it is to look at her actions towards you and try them in reverse.

Why? *Because it's not your actions that matter.* It's what she associates with them that counts.

The whole point of mirror action is that it's supposed to give you a list of actions that she values. But her associations may not be that obvious at all. So if you use the eliciting responses technique, you'll be on much firmer ground.

And there are a lot of things that a woman wants that she *won't* show you. Or tell you. This is most obvious with sexual things, where sometimes she'll tell you that she absolutely *doesn't* want you to do something. But when she says it she's a little flushed and breathing heavily. If you can read the signs you can take that as a cue, and you'll know how to act.