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what signs do women pick up that leads them to reach that conclusion?

Having no female friends? Having no social life? Being out of shape? 41 and without kids and / or married?

Are these examples?
 

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Not having a good job? Not having money? Not having experience dating attractive women?

It's not a lack of douche bags, steroids or kids.

Women don't sit down and look at the data and decide whether you are sexy or not. They know automatically. SMV is simply a trend. Women are their prettiest at 19 and most beautiful at 25 on average, so 22 is right in the middle. See average age of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Models and Playboy Playmates.

Men, meanwhile are their strongest at 28 and most powerful at 50, so they are most attractive in the middle, around age 38. See Sexiest Man Alive.

Makes sense, unless you're a chunky 38 year old woman pretending to be an angry 17 year old black boy.
 

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The good news is at 41 you have still got time to turn this around. We get a lot of guys here who say they want to change and get tons of good advice and but won't update posts and log field reports.

So are you willing to do the work?
 

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The good news is at 41 you have still got time to turn this around. We get a lot of guys here who say they want to change and get tons of good advice and but won't update posts and log field reports.

So are you willing to do the work?
yes of course
 

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Man read the book of pook and DJ Bible. That's all I can say without knowing more.

Get out there and work on yourself.
 

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Great the community can definitely help you with that. Now all progress in life is a matter of findng what works for you.

In your mind what is the number one thing holding you back?
 

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And what are the key issues with your current job? BTW I liked the reddit link. I think it's the philosophy that most people here would advise adopting.
 

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i dont get paid well enough to satisfy my needs. And this and also lazyness = low quality life = low smv

i see now everything is connected. money (the more the better) is imperative for having a relationship or even just dating. We live in a society that worships money, so having it means your free to do whatever the hell you want.
 
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OK so now we re getting down to it. So you've identified three issues.

1. Lack of money is limiting your options
2. You feel you have more potential so accepting this low quality job= you being lazy in your mind
3. You believe woman won't be attracted to you unless you have more money

Are these three points correct?

Remember facts don't matter much you it's all about how things seem to you.
 

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OK so now we re getting down to it. So you've identified three issues.

1. Lack of money is limiting your options
2. You feel you have more potential so accepting this low quality job= you being lazy in your mind
3. You believe woman won't be attracted to you unless you have more money

Are these three points correct?

Remember facts don't matter much you it's all about how things seem to you.
yes and being unnatractive. but even that money can fix. gym, good clothes and shoes, expensive cologne, nice watch. even quasimodo would get approval.
 

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Great we've got some common agreed ground to work from.

Before we find out what will work for you we need to eliminate what won't work for you.

You've been a member of the site for sometime so you've obviously been thinking about self improvement.

What have you tried that failed and why do you think that was?

If you want to move ahead you're going to have to be brutally honest with yourself. Remember this is an anonymous forum.

If you read some of the back Post s of the experienced guys here you'll find they had plenty of problems and doubts myself included. So don't worry you're in good company
 

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What didnt work. Surgeries.

Thought it would improve my luck with women but either i am a quasimodo clone or women see me as a complete loser. They have no respect for me and treat me as the invisible man. They must sense something evn online which is where i try the most. You see i dont have many friends (2,3 good and real friends) so my social circle doesnt really exist.
 

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Ok having surgery to improve your luck with woman is a pretty extreme action. And I don't see how you could afford this if money is an issue.

Is it possible that you might be better off discussing your issues with a medical professional?
 

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Bad genes and a feminine personality.

Women care about looks a lot more than they let on. However, masculine behavior seems to indicate good genes about as much as being handsome does. Success and money indicates good genes because it means either you or someone in your family had the ability to beat the competition and rise higher than others could. You need one or the other.

Being ugly and poor puts you dead last in the genetics lottery.
 

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having surgery to improve your luck with woman is a pretty extreme action. And I don't see how you could afford this if money is an issue.

Is it possible that you might be better off discussing your issues with a medical professional?
as i said before my plastic surgeries were free except the ears surgery. A doctor who is a friend of the family had the connections. But the surgeries didnt work. There are more things im being rejected on. My attitude of course and the lack of money, more financially stable life.
 

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@ImprovingJuan I'm not putting u down. I'm just saying we get the odd guy here who becomes obsessed with some sticking point. And they just can't move past it because they've got stuck in a loop in their own head. Which means they need a medical professionals help to cut that loop. Your replies do indicate some serious inner game issues which is why I am asking the question.

Oh and ignore all the Aryan master race chest thumpers here. Who cares about what rung u r on the genetic ladder. Ugly poor guys still get laid all around the world that's why there's so many of them.
 

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