Looks don't matter for LTR

[oc16]

It seems good looks only help you with women when it comes to short term flings and being average at best or on the ugly side can actually help you land babes. Why? Women are insecure and want to be the better looking of the two partners. Research has also been done that shows men who are more homely than their wives tend to treat their wives better.

I have seem waaaayyyy too many guys who are average at best, borderline ugly with women who are noticeably better looking than them; they are in a LTR.

This last girl I was gaming, is a solid 7-7.5; her ex of a few years has a gut, balding and bad teeth.

I was at a house party this past Saturday and then this one attractive girl that I noticed (solid 8); her husband was tall (the only positive physical attribute); balding and had poor facial aesthetics (could use some orthodontics and corrective jaw surgery).

 

[youngprodigy]

Not sure if this is the case but I've seen and heard of these so call girls having an ugly bf to pamper them and validate them all while they cheat with the guys they're actually attracted to. They don't date these guys since they don't meet LTR material in their standards (aka being her lil bish)

 

[cola]

You a!so don't know the social status of the guy she's with..
Yeah he may be fat and bald now, but maybe he's a highly decorated ex navy seal with 20 confirmed kills.

He may look like a tall dork, but he may own the most awesome club In the city. Remember
Status>looks.

I'm going to tell you a story.
A guy walked into a retail store I worked at.
Dingy T-shirt, old jeans and flip flops.

He goes to electronics. He's looking at a $6,000 t.v.
Coworkers are laughing, saying look another window shopper.
Guy walks over to register says "I'll take that one".
Pulls out a black card and I.D.
Come to find out he is owner of a chain of car dealerships who's commercials are all over T.V and worth millions.

Dont ever see a guy who looks bummy with a hot girl and assume. She's with him for a reason.

 

[SmooveMooves]

3 points.

• Looks aren't the only factor when choosing a LTR for female nor male.
• Looks are still very important. If you think you can just sit on your ass and hope an HB8 falls into your average lap you're in for a rude awakening.
• A few anecdotes don't dictate the rule. There is this thing called the matching phenomenon (backed by actual studies) in which it is found most people date those who are about the same level socially and physically. 8s date 8s. 4s date 4s. Celebrities date celebrities. Doctors date doctors.

 

[Mike32ct]

Most studies have shown that looks are super critical for ONS', but there is more flexibility on looks for a relationship.

Yes, looks always matter, but with relationships, other "wildcards" are at play as noted above:

1. Money
2. Status
3. Social circle familiarity (i.e. being vetted because she knows you)

 

[marmel75]

These types of things happen as a woman gets to know a guy over a longer period of time. Research even has shown the longer the period of time a woman knows a guy the less important looks are because she starts finding other traits she finds attractive in him. When she only knows a guy for a short period of time, it's almost all about looks.

 

[lizardking82]

Most beautiful people, be it guys or girls, are pieces of trash. Why? Cause they were always handed things and appreciated for their looks so they did not need to develop anything else. Personally, I don't want any woman that doesn't want me because of my looks. They don't even register in my radar. Even if they manage to turn me on somehow, they probably would turn me off a couple of seconds into the conversation LOL

 

[nismo-4]

Most studies have shown that looks are super critical for ONS', but there is more flexibility on looks for a relationship.

Yes, looks always matter, but with relationships, other "wildcards" are at play as noted above:

1. Money
2. Status
3. Social circle familiarity (i.e. being vetted because she knows you)

Since the subject matter is LTRs, this is unfortunately advice from the other side of the river.

Before an LTR, there must be sex and attraction and desire. Putting relationships first is a great way to be friendzoned.

When in an LTR, then all that 'grey area" sh*t comes into play like personality, savoir faire, your ability to play Halo 4, etc.

LTRs develop over time, as a woman gets to know more about you. None of us here are celebrities or famous athletes, so it just takes that much longer.

When you get to the other side of the river, most relationship advice is actually useful. Getting there is a whole new ball game. The advice for getting through level 2 is only useful for level 2, not level 1, where most men struggle. The problems? Simple.

1. Motherf**kers using relationship advice as dating advice. Nice way to be just friends.

2. Most of us here try to punch above our attraction weight. Never seen a street bum score a NFL cheerleader.

3. Most guys don't max out their stats. You can always improve.

4. The grey area of attraction is useless until she really is attracted to you.

5. Most men go after women with little interest.

Also, make sure you know why she's with you. Make sure she's actually attracted to you. Cut her off if she wants you in some beta role.

 

[Dingo]

Looks don't matter ?... Yeah.. Keep telling yourself that...

 

[Masculinity]

It seems good looks only help you with women when it comes to short term flings and being average at best or on the ugly side can actually help you land babes. Why? Women are insecure and want to be the better looking of the two partners. Research has also been done that shows men who are more homely than their wives tend to treat their wives better.

I have seem waaaayyyy too many guys who are average at best, borderline ugly with women who are noticeably better looking than them; they are in a LTR.

This last girl I was gaming, is a solid 7-7.5; her ex of a few years has a gut, balding and bad teeth.

I was at a house party this past Saturday and then this one attractive girl that I noticed (solid 8); her husband was tall (the only positive physical attribute); balding and had poor facial aesthetics (could use some orthodontics and corrective jaw surgery).

Looks matter in most situations. The only exception is when you're both very
old together.