Little progress in growth doing cold approaches

[thunder_god]

For the past 3 or so weeks I have been doing cold approaches typically with wings, however today I managed to do two solo approaches by myself. I'm beginning to become very demotivated and losing hope that I will ever get better with women. Yesterday and today was really bad. I developed serious approach anxiety despite approaching 10 girls today with some of them being two sets. On tuesday and wednesday, I was able to have very long conversations with girls, and I even managed to kino one of them and throw in a sexual comment, however all my energy and vibe seems to have died off. I keep on seeing my wings approach girls with no approach anxiety and also getting # and even one guy told me he got a make out session. I have been constantly commented on the way I dress by numerous people in the last weeks. I was told by two of my wnigs today that three girls were eye ****ing me as we pasted by, so this kind of makes me feel even worst knowing that I am preventing myself from achieving success and its not a physical issue.

I haven't been able to find consistent wings and have had a lot of people flake on me and let me down. Even my best friends have constantly come up with excuses why he can't come out with me. I was told by one of my wings today that it took his best friend 4 years to get good with women I have been going out practically everyday for at least 3-4 hrs trying to improve my game. I went out from 4:30pm-12am to do daygame and nightgame today but it seems no matter what I do, I'm just not getting better with women, and its making me very frustrated and depressed. I know its not a masculine trait but my eyes started to get watery today when I was on the way home, pissed off at myself for my lack of success and me wondering if I will ever get better with women.

I feels like everyone learnt this stuff a decade ago and I just woke up and missed out on learning this stuff. I see guys everywhere with girls around their arms and it feels like everyone knows about seduction and dating except me . Its very demotivating to wake up everyday and try to approach girls after girls and getting constantly rejected with little to show for it. It feels like I'm the only late 20's guy in Toronto who is still a virgin and hasn't even kissed a girl before. I'm trying to grow thicker skin but damn is this hard, probably the hardest thing I have ever done in my entire life. I feel like I need someone to mentor and coach me, because I'm obviously not getting any better.

 

[Rival]

For the past 3 or so weeks I have been doing cold approaches typically with wings, however today I managed to do two solo approaches by myself. I'm beginning to become very demotivated and losing hope that I will ever get better with women. Yesterday and today was really bad. I developed serious approach anxiety despite approaching 10 girls today with some of them being two sets. On tuesday and wednesday, I was able to have very long conversations with girls, and I even managed to kino one of them and throw in a sexual comment, however all my energy and vibe seems to have died off. I keep on seeing my wings approach girls with no approach anxiety and also getting # and even one guy told me he got a make out session. I have been constantly commented on the way I dress by numerous people in the last weeks. I was told by two of my wnigs today that three girls were eye ****ing me as we pasted by, so this kind of makes me feel even worst knowing that I am preventing myself from achieving success and its not a physical issue.

I haven't been able to find consistent wings and have had a lot of people flake on me and let me down. Even my best friends have constantly come up with excuses why he can't come out with me. I was told by one of my wings today that it took his best friend 4 years to get good with women I have been going out practically everyday for at least 3-4 hrs trying to improve my game. I went out from 4:30pm-12am to do daygame and nightgame today but it seems no matter what I do, I'm just not getting better with women, and its making me very frustrated and depressed. I know its not a masculine trait but my eyes started to get watery today when I was on the way home, pissed off at myself for my lack of success and me wondering if I will ever get better with women.

I feels like everyone learnt this stuff a decade ago and I just woke up and missed out on learning this stuff. I see guys everywhere with girls around their arms and it feels like everyone knows about seduction and dating except me . Its very demotivating to wake up everyday and try to approach girls after girls and getting constantly rejected with little to show for it. It feels like I'm the only late 20's guy in Toronto who is still a virgin and hasn't even kissed a girl before. I'm trying to grow thicker skin but damn is this hard, probably the hardest thing I have ever done in my entire life. I feel like I need someone to mentor and coach me, because I'm obviously not getting any better.

Bro gonna start with a lil quote "crap stays hard as **** until it gets easy as hell"

without really knowing you or seeing how you do things its hard to comment as to how to help you. Think of this though, Men peak in sexual power in their 30s-40s imo. Women peak 18-20s. You're rising and their falling. Keep at it and don't believe the lie that your the only one in your situation. I know guys just like you personally. Keep your head up and use that pain as motivation. You only lose for good when you give up. This **** will make you stronger.

 

[YoungSir4sho]

Don't give up bro. Im in the same situation except I havent been doing cold approaches as much as you yet. Im to inconsistent with it because it takes alot of energy. But im not going to quit and will start up doing cold approaches for daygame this weekend. I know it hurts mentally and is hard but just keep pushing thru no matter what. We will both laugh at this struggle within a few weeks or months if we don't quit approaching I promise you that.

 

[thunder_god]

It feels like I'm going to the battlefield day in and day out and getting the $hit kicked out of me. Its very disheartening to see guys getting #, pulling girls, while I come out everyday empty handed. I'm trying my best here but it seems thats never enough.

 

[Skyline]

You're lucky you have wings man, all of my friends are like "you're not supposed to do that with women/people you don't know!" Because of this, I have to approach solo. And I doubt they have any night game, which is the opposite for me. It's not a bad thing but in high-school I had serious approach anxiety and now that I'm out it's starting to go away a lot quicker than I had thought. Every time I see an attractive girl I pretty much walk up there without a second thought.

You're also forgetting the first rule about cold approaching. It's a numbers game. Most of my approaches are quick ones, mainly because I'm just trying to get over the initial approach anxiety before tackling something a bit more complex, I ask for a name/if she's single and try and number close and I'm out. If I wanted to be more successful I would stay and develop rapport, but that is not my current goal. I'll obviously attempt to develop rapport if she's sitting down or looking at something, but if she's walking around it's going to be quick.

I feel like you're trying to run before you can walk. Start out with learning how to take rejection and getting over the anxiety. This means do quick cold approaches so you get used to it. After you feel comfortable, THEN move onto more advanced stuff like rapport and all that. You don't need "wings" really, you can do it yourself. Just go to a mall or somewhere where there is a lot of people and start doing quick approaches. You're approaching to "win" a girl, when you should be approaching in order to improve yourself for when it actually matters.

 

[zinc4]

First of all...you don't need wings to do day game or any game for that matter...stop worrying about wings....going solo is the best...i always go solo everywhere i go pretty much....esepcially for day and nightclub game...

Also....after your day game, start going out to nightclubs drinking a little and dancing a lot....i promise you will most likely see much more success sexually than day game will ever give u....and this will give you an edge with day game as well because it will gigve u some actual experience...day game is never easy man...no matter how good you get, it's still always a big numbers game and even if the chick likes you, you still face the stigma of being that complete stranger who randomly approached her...i don't think most guys consider this about day game....

you are always working from a leg down so to speak....night club game is so much easier because it is much more socially accepted....not saying u can't have a good amount of success with day game once you get better, but if you are a good looking well dressed guy, then you are crazy not to go clubbing where you can get instant success fairly easily if you do a lot of approaches and are having fun....

 

[Don-Kong]

Go out alone to bars and especially clubs.
Fvck daygame.
go where the party is at, at least then you will enjoy it.

Once you get good at this, then move on to day-game.

Also, focus on improving social skills more than making her the prize. This is far more rewarding and chicks will come as a by-product

 

[thunder_god]

You're lucky you have wings man, all of my friends are like "you're not supposed to do that with women/people you don't know!" Because of this, I have to approach solo. And I doubt they have any night game, which is the opposite for me. It's not a bad thing but in high-school I had serious approach anxiety and now that I'm out it's starting to go away a lot quicker than I had thought. Every time I see an attractive girl I pretty much walk up there without a second thought.

You're also forgetting the first rule about cold approaching. It's a numbers game. Most of my approaches are quick ones, mainly because I'm just trying to get over the initial approach anxiety before tackling something a bit more complex, I ask for a name/if she's single and try and number close and I'm out. If I wanted to be more successful I would stay and develop rapport, but that is not my current goal. I'll obviously attempt to develop rapport if she's sitting down or looking at something, but if she's walking around it's going to be quick.

I feel like you're trying to run before you can walk. Start out with learning how to take rejection and getting over the anxiety. This means do quick cold approaches so you get used to it. After you feel comfortable, THEN move onto more advanced stuff like rapport and all that. You don't need "wings" really, you can do it yourself. Just go to a mall or somewhere where there is a lot of people and start doing quick approaches. You're approaching to "win" a girl, when you should be approaching in order to improve yourself for when it actually matters.

I had to work hard to find wings man. It took me weeks to find guys who would even be into this stuff, and even then I got flaked on a lot by guys.

 

[zinc4]

I had to work hard to find wings man. It took me weeks to find guys who would even be into this stuff, and even then I got flaked on a lot by guys.

You DON'T need wings and have been wasting your time looking for them and depending on them....YOU control your fortiones not other people....go out solo all the time man....personally, i don't like working with a wing...i get distracted too easily that way and i feel like a lot of time gets wasted or its easier to procrastinate with a wing to talk to....

The biggest problem i since here is you are not having any fun...chicks although dumb as rocks at times, are almost physchic when it comes to your intentions and tonality and body language...they just have this innate ability ti figure stuff out about you and place a label within a few seconds or minutes of meeting you...probably seconds....

You are being severely outcome dependent which i can't fault you for...but it's making you misareble and you better believe this is carrying over to your game with girls....

One last time...go to a night club, get a little drunk and have FUN.....that is your best chance of meeting women....day game even to this day for me is extremely difficult and time consuming to get consistent results....and i have been doing it for years....day game can become like a miission at times and can get overbearing.....not to mention it is much much more difficxult to form a good rapport and establish any physical intimacy while cold ap[proaching during the day time....it6 just is.....you can do it...but damn, it happens so much quicker and easier at a packed nightclub dancing leads to making out and making ou8t leads to sex....

Go have fun man and stop making this daytime crap such a serious mission.....