List of limiting beliefs...

Ricky

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I am going to list some recurring limiting beliefs that come back like a tumor.

Please list yours and we will promptly work together to destroy them

1) One i'm struggling with alot here is that I'm too old for the girls I want. I'm 31. Well just tonight I read the thread about the age difference.

There are so many examples of guys dating younger women it is not even funny.

In addition the guy on one thread said he feels sorry for the girls because they are up against alot of experience. He is exactly right.

So to destroy this thought that you are too old

Think of the following
1) Most guys her age are AFCS, guys that might not have much of a future and less accomplished (lower status than you)

2) You typically have an advantage over younger guys in terms of finances and providing ability. Yes I know we shouldn't supplicate or take them out to great restauraunts, but the mere fact that you can afford to go to some place better than Dennys almost assures you a good chance of getting laid!

3) She can make her friends jealous, especially if you can show your high status and value while they are dating some frat boy.

Keys
1) Dont try to dress like a 20 something if you aren't. And also that means you might not want to troll at quarter beer night if you have an important job. On the other hand that means drunk chicks so don't hold yourself back there

2) Be as ****y and funny as ever with them. When they ask how old you are tell them old enough that the cops won't come take her away if she brings you home (courtesy David D)

3) Of course need I say workout and dress well.

So why do I still carry the I"m too old belief sometimes? Because alot of AFCS think this way and use it as an excuse.

I was an AFC in undergraduate. There is no way I'll do any worse now than I did then with the college girls!
 

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So what are some of your limiting beliefs? How can we destroy them.

Another is related to this feeling of hurt I have from my ex

2) I will never find another girl like her

Answer

Good! She fvcked me over big time when I moved to a new city where I knew noone. She had the nerve to come up here and breakup with me even after we had a great time touring the city. Just imagine what she could have done to me if we got married. She would have gone flaky at some point and split with half of my money. Then I would have had to go OJ on her ass.

Face it a girl like that is spoiled and most of all weak. She wasn't strong enough to deal with the fact that I'm very successful and in control. She even told me in one conversation how a girl made her mad when she was told that she was a control freak and Anal!

Too bad she wouldn't do ANAL, which is another reason I am better off without her. Any girl that won't give up her ass to you clearly isn't a keeper!
 

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exactly what kind of post that needs to be made !
 

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If you're 31 why are you only targeting 20 year olds??

I never understood that (holds true for A LOT of guys on this site).

There are plenty of hot women in their early 30s. Women in their early 20s mostly have their heads up their ass. It's baffling to me that a man in his 30s would be targeting 20 year olds.

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Originally posted by bobbob
If you're 31 why are you only targeting 20 year olds??

I never understood that (holds true for A LOT of guys on this site).
Women in their early 20s mostly have their heads up their ass.
Very true and a good question.
One of teh answers is... where can you find _available_ 30+ women? Most women in their early 20s are at least single...
30s women are either married, bitter or ugly. But this is ok...I mean lots of 20s are married, bitter or ugly too.
The real problem is 30s women work and go home. If they go out, they go out with a friend or two...
Anyway, where do you see 30s women? Probably only at lunch time somewhere in a food joint with like 5 coworkers.....
 

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Heya ...

Just something that, maybe you don't want to hear it, but its not a "limiting belief" that girls in their early 20s don't want a 30 year old. Guess what? THEY DON'T WANT A GUY IN THEIR 30s.

Of course there are exceptions. But its like, if you're fat, are you going to point to the RARE fat guy with a hot girl and say "hey he got her cause he didn't have limiting beliefs"?

Or are you going to go hit the gym, and lose some weight.

Because there are some hot girls that go for fat guys.

But they're RARE and its like winning the goddamn lotto if you're a fat guy who's with a hot girl. It's a better bet to lose weight so that you appeal to the MAJORITY of women (as opposed to a rare few).

The same holds true for old guys with young women. Sure, its possible, its been done before, you got a shot.

But your odds aren't good.

And, what sort of appeal does a 20 year old have to you besides a hot body? WTF do you talk about with her? American Idol? Jesus creeping ****, come on.

Go for women your own age (or close to it)
 

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Originally posted by al77
Very true and a good question.
One of teh answers is... where can you find _available_ 30+ women? Most women in their early 20s are at least single...
30s women are either married, bitter or ugly. But this is ok...I mean lots of 20s are married, bitter or ugly too.
The real problem is 30s women work and go home. If they go out, they go out with a friend or two...
Anyway, where do you see 30s women? Probably only at lunch time somewhere in a food joint with like 5 coworkers.....

If you're 30, I find it hard to believe that you're having an easier time meeting single 20-year olds than you are 30-year olds (if you're not in college, which I'm assuming you're not).

I would guess that older single women could be found at adult recreation classes (i.e. yoga, cooking, stuff like that).

Plus, if you see a woman in her late 20s/early 30s that's hot, its cause she TAKES CARE OF HERSELF (as opposed to just being young). Most girls in college only got a couple years left of looking good before they hit the real world and get "office ass".

It also depends on where you live ... I've lived in both l.a. and florida and I've noticed that people in florida tend to settle down faster, get married younger, etc. You see more older unmarried women in l.a., and I've heard there are a lot in NY.

I'm having a hard time meeting women of any age so it's not like I have the answers to your questions ...

The only reason I posted is I just don't understand these 30 year olds who are going out of their way and putting forth huge effort to meet COLLEGE AGE women.

Just my opinion, but if you're 30, I think you should be targeting women 25 and up. 22 and below is just too damn young and immature.
 

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Y'know, writing (or typing) your limiting beliefs is counter productive in SO MANY different ways. It's frustrating to read so many threads on what NOT to do it's maddening!

It's not bad understanding what things are holding you back but have you actually considered writing down the type of person you'd like to be? The mind works on all statements affirmatively, meaning no matter what you say about yourself your mind tells your psyche "yes you are."

For example:

You: I'm not going to smoke any cigarettes today.
Your Psyche: Yes you are.

You: I'm not going to speed to work today.
Your Psyche: Yes you are.

You: People feel that I'm too old to date younger women.
Your Psyche: Yes you are.


However:
You: I am a good conversationalist.
Your Psyche: Yes you are.

You: I am confident and comfortable with who I am.
Your Psyche: Yes you are.

You: I am a DJ!
Your Psyche: Yes you are.


I know I've probably oversimplified the concept, but understanding that you are what you perceive yourself to be can work either for you or against you.
 

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One last thing before I forget ...

I'm not saying just cause a guy's 30 he should never approach a 20 year old (cause that would be an example of a limiting belief). If a good opportunity arises, go for it.

I'm just saying don't expend too much energy on it when your odds aren't great to begin with, and the payoff is less than with a woman closer to your own age.

peace!
 

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So I'm also 31. Let me add a few words.

First, college girls are mostly flaky, self-centered, boring, and insecure. BUT, they are not out of reach at all. A certain percent *want* an older man. You just have to be available. That can mean in an office setting, a friend of a friend, at a volunteer type organization, a store, anywhere.

BUT -- you do have to play the role of the secure confident older man. There has to be a payoff for them to range from their normal crowd. An insecure older man would be a MASSIVE turnoff. The worst of all worlds. So only go for this in a setting where you know you are the man, where all the boys look up to you, etc. This is exactly why the 45 y.o. club owner, or business owner, or bartender, or what have you, fuks the 19 year old waitress, or dancer, or intern, or secretary. They want to own that man for a night. It's a major prize. And I have to think that there is a lot you could do with a naive 19 y.o. on a Saturday afternoon in your apt. Personally, I think these young women are eager for an older man to break them in properly. I think it's just what they need. They were made for us. When I see a lovely 20 y.o. with some dork her own age, I just think, what a waste of a fine body, and what a fukked up culture. Most places in the world she would be married to a man twice her age who could take proper care of her and maximize the use of that body.

Late 20's early 30's is a much WORSE scene b/c of the baby thing. The ovary clock is TICK TICK TICKING. So unless she is not on the baby track for some reason, beware.
 

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About the anal thing

Did you ask?

B/c a DJ should *never* ask, in my opinion. Instead, make her desire it, and think it's her own idea, and dream about it, and finally ask you for it.

I did that by simply touching her in her azz, in the shower, when I'd already got her turned on, and she felt really clean. Like, lather her up, slide your hands over that fine booty, and then slip them in the crack a bit, and a bit more after that.

Never said a word about what I was doing. Just did it. And then later, I'd do it when she wasn't in the shower, just put my hands down her pants and play with her ass a bit when I kissed her.

So, that became a stimulus that was linked with arousal.

Pretty soon, she is having some dreams about it.

"You would never believe what I dreamed about last night..."

I wouldn't?

She is dropping some hints, and I'm acting dumb like I don't get it, or cutting her off when she tries to bring it up. I am letting her think that if she ever suggested such a disgusting thing, I might throw her out of the house.

And, finally, hell, okay, maybe I'll try it just once . . .

"Yes, I guess you can paint the fence, for a small fee," says Tom Sawyer.
 

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I am trying to break limiting beliefs.

I am not aiming to go after college girls. I am open to all ages of women. I am just surrounded by younger women in the neighborhood where I'm at. So sue me. I'll let you know how it goes.

Franciso is right though about how we affirm things. I have heard that several times before about whether we put a no or yes in front of it we will still think it.

So for once I will affirm only great things

1) I am irresistible to women of all ages

2) I am intelligent, my memory is strong and I continue to learn many exciting new things

3) I handle myself confidently and as a man in all situations I face

4) Women are excited to talk to me, I enjoy going up to them and seeing them smile and laugh and enjoy my company. They find me attractive and the type of guy they would love to sleep with and date.

5) I am getting stronger and in better shape everyday. I have worked out for 10 years and will continue to work out for the rest of my life. As a result I have a tons of mental and physical energy.

About the anal thing, I dont recall asking for it, it just came up during sex and I threw that in as more of a joke.

BTW< the guy that talked about 31 being too old for 20, well what about 21 or 22, where do you draw the cut off. Exactly you don't. It was also interesting that you bring it up about being a fat slob. The fat slob thing is a reason some 30 year olds have trouble.

I am in great shape. Now I may have a receding hairline but other than that I am in better shape than alot of early 20 guys. I am in better shape than I was in at 20 or 21 (I started working out at 21)!

SO you can keep your limiting belief that it is tough, while I'll laugh about it while I'm banging whatever girl I want to!
 

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Originally posted by bobbob
If you're 31 why are you only targeting 20 year olds??

I never understood that (holds true for A LOT of guys on this site).

There are plenty of hot women in their early 30s. Women in their early 20s mostly have their heads up their ass. It's baffling to me that a man in his 30s would be targeting 20 year olds.

peace
I'm 45 and I date women a good 15-20 years younger than myself.

Why you ask?

Because by the time most women have reached 30, they've had kids, want kids, are bitter towards men, have been sluts and now want to settle down with a "nice" guy, are looking for someone to support them, their boobs are starting to sag, etc...

Also, most guys in that age range (mid-20's) are AFC's and have no game.

I have more skills and experience than those guys, so I'm offering those women a better alternative.

And it doesn't hurt that I look a good 10 years younger than I actually am.
 

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Originally posted by bobbob
If you're 31 why are you only targeting 20 year olds??

I never understood that (holds true for A LOT of guys on this site).

There are plenty of hot women in their early 30s. Women in their early 20s mostly have their heads up their ass. It's baffling to me that a man in his 30s would be targeting 20 year olds.

peace
Depends on where you live.... Hot 30-40 year old women in some places are very rare. Oh like say Columbus.

We have the dubious distinction of being the 4th fatest city in America, but hey, thats an improvement! Last year we were #1.

You are right about one thing, most chicks in there 20's are flakey byches
 
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