Like her? Leave first!

[romeo203]

Do you have the power to leave?

That is what distinguishes AFCs from true Don Juan.

You see, AFCs are to afraid to leave a girl he likes, thinking that only she can make him happy. DJs believe otherwise and if a girl makes him unhappy or he himself becomes too happy with her, he must leave or force himself to leave, otherwise he will fall back to the dark side, the AFC kingdom.

Leave and she will follow (only if she has a bit of interest in you, if not it's useless). I don't mean leave as in breaking up with her but if you're both having a great time, leave early. If she does something to upset you, tell her you have to go. If you're both on the first date, leave unexpectedly and never ever let her know where. Just say "I have to go now" and keep your trap shut.

I got this analysis from my past girlfriends who fell madly in love with me. It was my way or no way, I'm out of here. The girls who had interest started to fall in love, the ones that didn't really didn't care. You'll know what I'm talking about once you realize this.

It's very powerful.

 

[Babnik]

And I like to get laid on the first date...and leaving isn't a way to do so.

 

[typical]

Well it actually doesnt matter who leaves first, aslong as you can make out with the girl for more then 10 minutes then you can both agree to leave when it suits the both of you.

If your first dates only consist of talking then you have a very very long way to go in the dating world. Your a guy get a kiss in the first date, this seperates you from the other losers who wait ages to kiss the girl, break all the cardinal rules (rules are made to be broken).

And if you are going to leave for an added affect, leave on a high, and stop the games guys, you dont have time for them, you stop playing the games and the girls will see your different and want you. Its dead simple.

Simplicity always wins.

 

[Charm]

What games are you referring to for everyone to stop?

You say "stop playing the games and the girls will see you different?"

You must be forgetting that guys who weren't doing any of this game playing as you call it were getting no women to begin with. This means your entire argument is garbage. The "games" or DJ Bible or whatever you want to call it are what have helped transform many AFCs to successful PUAs and DJs or people on their way to becoming so. Your comment is a lot like "just be yourself" comments that have been the main cause of problems for guys because the "self" they were being was scaring off all their opportunities.

You might not like the "games" but if you are not willing to step into the field and play them, your opportunities go way down.

I agree with your simple: Get the number, get the date, get the kiss, get the girl philosophy. I dont agree that simplicity always wins but in your experiences, maybe it has. Good luck to you

 

[Babnik]

What games are you referring to for everyone to stop?

You say "stop playing the games and the girls will see you different?"

You must be forgetting that guys who weren't doing any of this game playing as you call it were getting no women to begin with. This means your entire argument is garbage. The "games" or DJ Bible or whatever you want to call it are what have helped transform many AFCs to successful PUAs and DJs or people on their way to becoming so. Your comment is a lot like "just be yourself" comments that have been the main cause of problems for guys because the "self" they were being was scaring off all their opportunities.

You might not like the "games" but if you are not willing to step into the field and play them, your opportunities go way down.

I agree with your simple: Get the number, get the date, get the kiss, get the girl philosophy. I dont agree that simplicity always wins but in your experiences, maybe it has. Good luck to you

I think that most who came here for help stayed here and got that online ego boost but thats the end of it.

I don't know any REAL people in real life who play these games to be honest.

 

[DJsomeday]

Most thing you read in here actually work, i've practiced some techniques on ppl from my school and they really work, my personal relationships have improved as hell it depends on wheter u think they work or not, noone is forcing you to use them.

 

[azanon]

I think that most who came here for help stayed here and got that online ego boost but thats the end of it.

I don't know any REAL people in real life who play these games to be honest.

>You apparently missed the OP's post, which is covered in the DJ bible. Willingness to leave isn't talking about leaving when the girl digs you. It means leaving when the girl begins to show disinterest, and thus your continued preserverence begins to look like despiration.

>It means not putting the woman on a pedestal, because they dont like heights.

>I agree, if one is directly forcing these strategies as a sort of active "game plan", then it wont be natural and it will do more harm than good. But it is possible to learn and read a lot of these strategies, incorporate them, and then execute them naturally as if it is the way you've always done it. Sure, a lot of these strategies will also build self-confidence, but they're building that confidence because you have more strategies and techniques that you can execute naturally as a result of specific information learned here.

Azanon

 

[azanon]

Do you have the power to leave?

That is what distinguishes AFCs from true Don Juan.

You see, AFCs are to afraid to leave a girl he likes, thinking that only she can make him happy. DJs believe otherwise and if a girl makes him unhappy or he himself becomes too happy with her, he must leave or force himself to leave, otherwise he will fall back to the dark side, the AFC kingdom.

Certainly not a new idea, but its a great reminder and one i could use right now. It sucks when you're gaming a really good one that just isn't quite reciprocating, but sometimes one just has to quit trying and maybe, just maybe, that will do the trick. If not, so be it.

 

[Remulak]

Note to self, walk out on next date with girlfriend and if she calls crying asking why I left I say "I do what I want!"

 

[MightyMate]

Its true. Its not easy to leave after some good times.

 

[DjVelvet]

I'm in this situation now. High interest in her, but somehow her interest is slightly lower but high enough to have fun during dates.

Okay guys. As what the topic starter mentioned.. ending the date if you find her upsetting you by being "not so recipocating"... does it help? (provided she still has relative interest, and deep rapport with you)

So, who tried this before? in the similar situation.

 

[sav]

the power to leave is a must,

that doesnt mean that you must leave at a certain point in time, love your girl, treat her right, be treated right, but dont intertwine your life to a point wher eyou CANT leave her... the door must be open to her... she can exit your life if she wants, thats what can keep her...