lies > thruth

[jhonny9546]

The most dangerous people out there are those who wrap a lie in truth and then deceive you.

Well, this is very attractive to any woman, isn't it?

Truth and good people like this man are known to turn off women. Women don't like the truth.

What do you mature men think about it?

 

[Plinco]

I can't remember if it was you or not, but I've explained this several times.

Beng dishonest by itself is not attractive. Dishonesty is not a perquisite to good social skills, but spotting dishonesty is a characteristic of someone with good social skills.

Ask yourself this: Are you better off or worse off in the long run by being dishonest? Are the people around you better off or worse off?

What you are implying is like saying the key to creating wealth is being fraudulent.


Ask yourself this: Are women so important to you that you have to divorce yourself from reality? Because if so, then that points to you being needy.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Ask yourself this: Are you better off or worse off in the long run by being dishonest? Are the people around you better off or worse off?

Dishonesty is virtually always an act of selfishness, even 'white lies' are trying to protect you from the fallout of a potentially upsetting message. And selfishness is a loathed trait in others. Goes back to tribal times when you didn't make a decision without considering the effects on the tribe. The selfish don't have a tribe.

 

[Plinco]

Dishonesty is virtually always an act of selfishness, even 'white lies' are trying to protect you from the fallout of a potentially upsetting message. And selfishness is a loathed trait in others. Goes back to tribal times when you didn't make a decision without considering the effects on the tribe. The selfish don't have a tribe.

No it isn't. Just because you feel a certain way, that doesn't mean that is the way it is. Integrity is not an option if you want to prosper.

Being selfish doesn't imply being dishonest or being a jerk. Being selfish means being effective. Protecting your friends and family is a selfish act.

 

[jhonny9546]

white lies

isn't everything a woman want to hear?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

People constantly misunderstand the context of this.

What people consider "honesty" is usually over sharing of information that you have no reason to divulge AT THE TIME IT IS BEING DIVULGED.

When a woman asks about something, instead of giving them bite sized chunks so they can digest and come back for more cause they are still hungry, most men back up a dump truck full of information and then dump it on them all at once.

Not including "everything" all at once isn't being "dishonest", it is understanding that you don't need to divulge everything all at once and that there is a pace at which this should happen.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Also, women like to explore you. If you give them too much information they haven't worked for, they will feel like there's no more new things to find out about you. If you make them work for the information, they feel like they earned the knowledge and that makes them value you more.

I like to just start off with "Remember how I said I'm basically harmless? That may not have been 100% truthful."

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Integrity is not an option if you want to prosper

exactly

 

[FlirtLife]

Dishonesty is virtually always an act of selfishness, even 'white lies' are trying to protect you from the fallout of a potentially upsetting message. And selfishness is a loathed trait in others. Goes back to tribal times when you didn't make a decision without considering the effects on the tribe. The selfish don't have a tribe.

Maybe we'll agree once you provide examples, but I think most 'white lies' are intended to avoid being overly direct or rude. "I can't come to your party" might be because I don't want to, but I'll say I'm busy to be polite. The goal, as I see it, is to avoid embarrassment and infliction of pain.

 

[FlirtLife]

The most dangerous people out there are those who wrap a lie in truth and then deceive you.

Well, this is very attractive to any woman, isn't it?

Truth and good people like this man are known to turn off women. Women don't like the truth.

What do you mature men think about it?

He spends most of the video discussing why Andrew Tate is a trap for young men. A rich guy who wants poor people to pay a subscription - "has a bad heart", as he puts it. No mention of dealing with women at all.

What part of the video makes you think he was talking about women?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Maybe we'll agree once you provide examples, but I think most 'white lies' are intended to avoid being overly direct or rude. "I can't come to your party" might be because I don't want to, but I'll say I'm busy to be polite. The goal, as I see it, is to avoid embarrassment and infliction of pain.

That's why they're called 'white' lies, but you're still not being honest, are you?

And there is nothing wrong with that, but honesty isn't always 'best'.

For instance, someone shows me the present she got for her birthday, but I think it's hideous. Now, if I say that, I will hurt her feelings. But if I say I 'like' it, she might think about getting me the same hideous thing for my birthday. So I stick as close to the truth as possible by saying, "It's not my taste, but I can see you're really happy with this."

 

[jhonny9546]

That's why they're called 'white' lies, but you're still not being honest, are you?

And there is nothing wrong with that, but honesty isn't always 'best'.

For instance, someone shows me the present she got for her birthday, but I think it's hideous. Now, if I say that, I will hurt her feelings. But if I say I 'like' it, she might think about getting me the same hideous thing for my birthday. So I stick as close to the truth as possible by saying, "It's not my taste, but I can see you're really happy with this."

Which are common white lies you have to say in a LTR to a woman?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Which are common white lies you have to say in a LTR to a woman?

White lies that get progressively dirtier:

"No, your ass doesn't look too big in that dress. You know I like my women curvy, don't you? Your dressing up for me, not for those little b!tches."

"No, I love going to church with you, but I have a terrible headache so I'm going to sit this one out, if you don't mind."

"No, this has nothing to do with how much I'm attracted to you. I'm just stressed out from work."

"Your girl Anita is nuts. Of course I was flirting with that salesgirl. I was trying to get you a discount on that LV bag you covet."

"That is not my hotel bill. Yes, that is my credit statement. My boss got caught out on a 'date' and I covered his hotel bill so this wouldn't get out to his wife. Because his wife always checks his bank statements for signs of adultery. And apparently justified, but you know me, baby. You're an intelligent woman who married an intelligent man. If I would've wanted to chase skirts behind your back, would I have used a credit card so it could be traced back to me? I wouldn't cheat on you, baby, but if I did, I wouldn't be this stupid. Do you think I'm stupid?"

 

[alvinkels]

Have I told a lie before yes but when it comes women I simply don't disclose till I am know who I am dealing and some of them never got to know me. Is this dishonest? I don't know either ways I found out that not disclosing to women turn work in my favor. I had conversations with a woman last she was your typical book girl. Further into the conversation she found out that I know more on the subject than she does without me not disclosing not her. Technically she was doing mansplaining to me. I don't know what you mean by dishonest but it is whether I am seeing other girls or not it is a privilege information. Even though I would not like to share a woman with another man I found the reverse to be to work for me. I have made out with girls all because they found that I am seeing other girls. Well eventually they came to their senses and drop off even though they chip once awhile.

People have life and not everyone is supposed to know about it. It is their life. But I am going to lie a woman about me forgetting something. I forgot and that's it. I don't have to cook any lies.

 

[Plinco]

Also, women like to explore you. If you give them too much information they haven't worked for, they will feel like there's no more new things to find out about you. If you make them work for the information, they feel like they earned the knowledge and that makes them value you more.

I like to just start off with "Remember how I said I'm basically harmless? That may not have been 100% truthful."

@jhonny9546

He's not lying to do something covert or nasty. He's playing a game.

 

[FlirtLife]

That's why they're called 'white' lies, but you're still not being honest, are you?

And there is nothing wrong with that, but honesty isn't always 'best'.

Agreed it's not honest, and honesty not always being best. Some 'white lies' are selfish, others are socially appropriate responses to avoid embarrassment. I think there's both kinds (referring to your earlier post).

For instance, someone shows me the present she got for her birthday, but I think it's hideous. Now, if I say that, I will hurt her feelings. But if I say I 'like' it, she might think about getting me the same hideous thing for my birthday. So I stick as close to the truth as possible by saying, "It's not my taste, but I can see you're really happy with this."

Personally, I might have said "I'm glad it makes you really happy", but I think your use of "I can see it makes you really happy" is better. She won't be questioning my feelings ("glad") if all I mention is what I can see. And in either event, she gets to talk about the gift some more, which is likely the point of bringing it up.

Another downside of "I like it", for clothing, is her wearing it more often. And proudly telling all her friends what you said...

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

He's not lying to do something covert or nasty. He's playing a game.

I think he gets that.

 

[jhonny9546]

The Secret to Transforming Yourself into a Cool Person Others Love

"Do not unto others what you would not have them do unto you"
I don't know, but this seems to not respect the sosuave and redpill philosophy?
What do you think?