Let's face it, the only way your going to meet quality chicks....

[oc16]

What does work:

1.) Work

2.) Network of friends.
By this I don't mean your gonna meet hot chicks who are good friends with your best guy friends (They will take them for themselves) but maybe a friend of a friend of a friend you meet through your common network.

What Doesn't really work:

1.) Online-Lots of ugly women and I'm sorry, there is still a stigma to it.

2.) Bars-Ive been doing it for 19 years and it really doesn't work. Women with their guard up, drunk and too many guys.

3.) Gym-For every hot chick out on the floor, there are five jacked guys and most have their headphones in.

4.) Volunteering/meetup.com-Not too many attractive women I've seen

5.) Grocery Stores-Kind of hard to do when your are just passing them in the aisle briefly. Follow them around and you are a stalker.

6.) Book Store-See #5

 

[wifehunter]

#5 no need to stalk them, when they stalk you!

 

[resilient]

What? No love for the "reformed" churchy-church girls?

 

[QuadDeuces]

You forgot the most important one.

Travel.

You meet so many interesting and beautiful girls while you're travelling abroad its insane.

 

[Tenacity]

What does work:

1.) Work

2.) Network of friends.
By this I don't mean your gonna meet hot chicks who are good friends with your best guy friends (They will take them for themselves) but maybe a friend of a friend of a friend you meet through your common network.

What Doesn't really work:

1.) Online-Lots of ugly women and I'm sorry, there is still a stigma to it.

2.) Bars-Ive been doing it for 19 years and it really doesn't work. Women with their guard up, drunk and too many guys.

3.) Gym-For every hot chick out on the floor, there are five jacked guys and most have their headphones in.

4.) Volunteering/meetup.com-Not too many attractive women I've seen

5.) Grocery Stores-Kind of hard to do when your are just passing them in the aisle briefly. Follow them around and you are a stalker.

6.) Book Store-See #5

Why not just agree with Tenacity and admit the MARKET is trash lol? The places you listed as trash represent 98.3% of the market.

 

[shesabranchswinger]

What does work:

1.) Work

2.) Network of friends.
By this I don't mean your gonna meet hot chicks who are good friends with your best guy friends (They will take them for themselves) but maybe a friend of a friend of a friend you meet through your common network.

What Doesn't really work:

1.) Online-Lots of ugly women and I'm sorry, there is still a stigma to it.

2.) Bars-Ive been doing it for 19 years and it really doesn't work. Women with their guard up, drunk and too many guys.

3.) Gym-For every hot chick out on the floor, there are five jacked guys and most have their headphones in.

4.) Volunteering/meetup.com-Not too many attractive women I've seen

5.) Grocery Stores-Kind of hard to do when your are just passing them in the aisle briefly. Follow them around and you are a stalker.

6.) Book Store-See #5

Work is a sketchy proposition the older you get. I don't have to worry about it anymore since I work for myself now. But the older the women the more litigious they get it seems and no one wants a sexual harassment lawsuit from HR.

Network of friends is always a good one for me.

Also if your cold approach is on point social events, gatherings and functions are good for bringing people into your social circle in turn meetings more women (long game).

 

[Trump]

Why not just agree with Tenacity and admit the MARKET is trash lol? The places you listed as trash represent 98.3% of the market.

Bro just curious, why do you refer to yourself in the 3rd person all the time? And why 98.3%, why not 99% or 99.9%?

 

[skinnyguy]

What does work:

1.) Work
2.) Network of friends.
By this I don't mean your gonna meet hot chicks who are good friends with your best guy friends (They will take them for themselves) but maybe a friend of a friend of a friend you meet through your common network.

What Doesn't really work:

1.) Online-Lots of ugly women and I'm sorry, there is still a stigma to it.

2.) Bars-Ive been doing it for 19 years and it really doesn't work. Women with their guard up, drunk and too many guys.

3.) Gym-For every hot chick out on the floor, there are five jacked guys and most have their headphones in.

4.) Volunteering/meetup.com-Not too many attractive women I've seen

5.) Grocery Stores-Kind of hard to do when your are just passing them in the aisle briefly. Follow them around and you are a stalker.

6.) Book Store-See #5

You forgot the most important one.

Travel.

You meet so many interesting and beautiful girls while you're travelling abroad its insane.

Agreed. I open so many sets when I travel.

Sarging at work is a no no if you have a serious job. If you work at Old navy then go for it.

OLD is an amazing way to meet women - if you're attractive.

 

[lizardking82]

Online is my 2nd most important way of knowing new women, actually. That is how I met my ex, that is how I met some of the women with which I've had the best sex in my life. If you can take it from online to real life quickly, there is no problem with OLD at all, in my opinion. Other than that, I work with different businesses, shooting pictures, so I meet different girls. Yesterday I went to get a sandwich somewhere in the city and I got the number of a 24 year old single mom LOL

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

7.) school

-Augustus-

 

[SmooveMooves]

When I first came to this forum 3 years ago there were competing ideas for the best source of women.


On one side there were the cold approaching/sarges who believed you needed to be approching 50+ women a day (numbers game). And on the other,

Where I argued from, was the network/social circle game.

The best way to have many women in your life is through an expansive social circle and large network.

This is why musicians and creative types get laid so much because by virtue of their jobs they know a lot of people and when you know a lot of people, you come in contact with many women. Your work buddy might know a few chicks, you may still have some you know from college, your other friend has sisters, she has friends etc.

Statistically, the majority of people meet their partners through mutual friends, next it's the workplace. Having a large network is a great way to improve your options.


If your circle is small and the majority of your women come from online, of course its gonna seem like the market is trash. The bottom of the barrell use OLD. Usually, women don't resort to OLD because they already have plenty of options and orbitors in their social network. Statistically, many more men use OLD than women. In my experience, I find that women who use OLD have some underlying issues that limits their options in RL. (with the exclusion of 2015 Tinder) Obesity, poor personality, mental issues, etc. But my experience is regarding younger women in my age group. I'm sure women 30+ may use online women from different reasons.

 

[The Duke]

I'm with Tenacity, I think the crop of women that are out there is primarily low quality. The source that you meet women thru doesn't control the quality. That's like saying you can't get good tasting food at a fast food restaurant. You must go to a 4-5 Star sit down venue if you want something good. What a crock of schitt that theory is.

What you have going on is a society that believes it is ok for females to be single mommies. Its okay for them to attention ***** on facebook/Instagram/twitter. We don't require them to cook/clean or have any other skills that can benefit a man. We don't require them to keep a nice physique. Its becoming socially acceptable to be a sluht. They are running amock with little to no restrictions. Society has said its ok for a female to do as she pleases. This has created spoiled, entitled biatches.

I'm hard pressed to find a woman who hasn't used online dating and I'm not referring to the ones I dated. Statistics say 30% of the population has tried it. I think its much higher. And if the 30% was accurate then according to some of you only the bad apples would be on OLD which would leave the majority of the "good" ones(70%) to be discovered in social settings everywhere but OLD. That doesn't hold water in my world either.

 

[The Duke]

If the majority of the women on OLD are low quality, wouldn't the men be low quality as well? Seems an awful lot of members on this forum have used OLD.

And how do you know the people who don't use OLD are such fine quality? You don't until you have a intimate relationship with them. The persona that people show in public can be entirely different than how they act in a intimate relationship. After all women are famous for being great actors and not being themselves in social settings.

 

[wifehunter]

You forgot the most important one.

Travel.

You meet so many interesting and beautiful girls while you're travelling abroad its insane.

I guess my job (uber/lyft) counts there. I meet an infinite amount of ladies...one asked me to bed, and one even tried to close me...but, I'm not ready yet.

 

[SmooveMooves]

I'm with Tenacity, I think the crop of women that are out there is primarily low quality. The source that you meet women thru doesn't control the quality. That's like saying you can't get good tasting food at a fast food restaurant. You must go to a 4-5 Star sit down venue if you want something good. What a crock of schitt that theory is.

Of course the source controls the quality. Sure, you may be able to get good tasting food, but do you think a double cheeseburger from Mcdonalds is equal in quality as lobster from Red Lobster?

What you have going on is a society that believes it is ok for females to be single mommies. Its okay for them to attention ***** on facebook/Instagram/twitter. We don't require them to cook/clean or have any other skills

This is true. I agree. However, this does not change that, at least in my experience, women that use OLD do so because their options in RL are limited for one reason or another.

Statistics say 30% of the population has tried it.

And 44% of Americans say they have tried marijuana. This does not mean they are active.

I think its much higher. And if the 30% was accurate then according to some of you only the bad apples would be on OLD which would leave the majority of the "good" ones(70%) to be discovered in social settings everywhere but OLD. That doesn't hold water in my world either.

It's not. I'm not sure why you would believe that. The stigma is decreasing, yes, but the majority of people still meet there partners in RL through mutual friends. Look it up. I think the online percentage is around 18-20% now. Which is significantly higher than it used to be.

If the majority of the women on OLD are low quality, wouldn't the men be low quality as well? Seems an awful lot of members on this forum have used OLD.

No, because men don't have the luxury of harems of women becking at any call.

 

[resilient]

I'm hard pressed to find a woman who hasn't used online dating...

Makes sense. If they're busy working on their careers or furthering their education into masters, phd, law, med programs, etc. they won't have much time to go out multiple times a night to screen for their best option. Even more so for the single mommies that have to watch the kiddo(s). They can sit from their comfortable apartment couch watching Gilmore Girls on Netflix while swiping left/right with a pint of ice cream.

You also have the co-dependent types that don't want to be caught dead single in a social sphere that is all couples married/non-married, so they may date a guy for a short while on OLD that hits enough checkboxes while she continues to shop for the upgrade.

 

[fastlife]

Just the best way to meet their quality front. Every woman is capable of suppressing her more--feral qualities--when long term consequences of social judgment are at stake.

The only way to meet quality women is to connect with them on a primal, sexual, nonjudgmental level and to see what's there. Otherwise, all you're getting is the front. And it's very hard to get thru that front when you meet her thru social circles or work connections or if she in anyway stands to gain or lose social standing from her association with you. Personally, I'd rather know the down & dirty (and all but the most low sex drive girls girls have it on some level--whether just fantasies or manifestations of prior action--and the best ones are dying to spill it out in a safe space--like the guy who doesn't matter).

 

[devilkingx2]

it doesn't matter where you look, you can find quality or low quality girls anywhere if you've got a good game for the location

 

[RangerMIke]

I meet a lot of great women at non-profit fund raisers. Met two last night at a Clean Water for Africa initiative fund raising event. If you think you have to have a lot of money to go to these things you don't... this event was $10 and $1 of all drinks purchased when to the charity. If you wanted to you could buy raffle tickets. Go on Facebook and check local events under fund raisers... read a little bit about the cause and show up. Built in rapport.... this isn't rocket science guys.

I've mentioned this before, but chamber of commerce networking events are great places to meet quality women... and you actually might meet someone that can help you in life. If you life in the USA, go to you local SBA office and meet with a business counselor. Start a business... it can be a home based business you do as a sideline hustle. Gives you a purpose you can make money from, and it makes you interesting to chicks. Join a chamber and go to their networking events. The two of the three women I am seeing now I met all at local chamber functions.

 

[Trainwreck]

OLD is for tall photogenic white men. Otherwise, you will get the bottom of the barrel women on there. If you are a minority, you're only hope is to have a great social circle game because that will help eliminate the anxiety of dating interracially. Otherwise, you'll exclusively go through mud sharks and single moms lol. If you are white then just imitate whatever the cool white whits guys with girls are doing and get pictures with a dog on tinder lol.