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joekerr31

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guys,

felt the need to chime in here. you all know that im a HUGE proponent of the WALK AWAY response when a woman is screwing with you. BUT 'lets be friends" doesnt always mean you should walk away.

too many folks are saying that when a girl says 'let's be friends' that she basically means 'f*ck off and die".

this is a bit harsh. "let's be friends" can mean different things in different circumstances

for example:

1) girl has been flirting with you for a while, you act on it, you get friends line

It means: she was playing you as an option, you called it on her, now (usually out of panic over being called out) she's making it clear that you are an option she'll settle for IF she doesn't meet mister right in the next 2-5 years. It also means she is happy to continue having you as option B if you are fine with that. "friends" here means, "i can tease and flirt you endlessly" and you can never get upset because we are just "friends".

2) you have a friendship with a woman (of say six months or more), you take a shine to her, you act on it, you get the friends line

it means: she just wants to be friends. she enjoys having you in her life, but isn't interested romantically. she's not playing you, she's being upfront and honest with you. in this scenario guys egos usually get hurt and they fire back with "go f*ck yourself".

3) you go on a few dates, call for another, woman says "lets be friends"

it means: it's over. she has no interest in you as a friend or anything else. it's a bullsh*t let down line.

4) girl has told you she likes you, but has a bf, so she just wants to be friends

it means: same as #1. you're option B for that night where her bf makes her suck his c*ck after doing her in the *ss and makes her feel like a total street wh*re. don't waste your time, because unless he does that, she ain't leaving him. and even if she does, you're going to get all the sh*t that she wished she could take out on him.

in circumstances 1 and 4 you need to WALK AWAY. these women are users and will suck the life out of you.

in circumstance 3 just accept that its over. she doesn't see you as the prize anymore and you are totally wasting your time on her.

in circumstance 2, stay friends. it's nto her fault that you have romantic feelings for her. i mean, what options did she have? tell you she liked you in that way when she didn't?

i guess what im saying is that don't toss out good women who AREN'T mind f*cking you just because they don't want to suck your c*ck. there aren't a lot of good, kind caring people in the world, so if you find one, don't cut her out of your life just because she won't sleep with you.

but for those women who lead you on then lay the "friends" line on you, WALK AWAY.

women who just want to be friends won't flirt excessively with you and they won't go out on dates with you. so if these women doing things that get your hopes up, then slamming the door in your face, it tells you that they are attention wh*res and you need to WALK AWAY.

it's very simple to tell which women want to really be friends and which are just using that to excuse their behavior of leading you on or of no longer wanting to see you.

the ones who truly want to be friends will have treated you like a friend prior to. which means they will have respected your feelings, treated you kindly, shared their true thoughts versus only sharing things that make you want them more, etc.

know the difference guys. walk away from the attention wh*res, but keep the good women in your life, even if just as friends. on one condition though, stop hitting on them and stop seeing them as potential lays. start seeing them as friends and go mack on other women.
J
 

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Another great post:

Originally posted by joekerr31

2) you have a friendship with a woman (of say six months or more), you take a shine to her, you act on it, you get the friends line

it means: she just wants to be friends. she enjoys having you in her life, but isn't interested romantically. she's not playing you, she's being upfront and honest with you. in this scenario guys egos usually get hurt and they fire back with "go f*ck yourself".

...and...

in circumstance 2, stay friends. it's nto her fault that you have romantic feelings for her. i mean, what options did she have? tell you she liked you in that way when she didn't?

...and...

the ones who truly want to be friends will have treated you like a friend prior to. which means they will have respected your feelings, treated you kindly, shared their true thoughts versus only sharing things that make you want them more, etc.
My first post on the board was this case (#2). We were friends for a year. I still think it was strange it took A YEAR before I wanted more. I can peg the exact instant. On a vacation one morning she came into my room and woke me up with that soft voice (I hadn't heard it yet) and I was done for. Instantly (and stupidly) my expectations went from:

I want to enjoy my life
I want to enjoy my hobbies
I want to settle down with a decent woman
I want to wake up every morning ready to kick ass and have fun

To:

I want to enjoy my life...with her
I want to enjoy my hobbies...with her
I want to settle down...with her
I want to wake up every morning...with her (and that soft voice)

... one of the surest signs of reverting to AFC behavior and letting One-Itis take over is when your expectations in life rapidly shift becoming dependent on ANYONE ELSE but yourself. And clearly she didn't do this to toy with me. Actually she was just looking out for me so I wouldn't be late that morning.

Anyway I pushed on and her tune changed from LJBF... to lets see ... to jumpin in the sack (she treated me ****ty, I took out another chickie and she got jealous). Then it all got shi++y and stalled. I tried to end it, she got me in the weak spot when she called back later about another surgery and then she got mean again because she just wanted a friend and started defining what that meant exactly and I don't play that game anymore.

Losing the friendship knocked me down hard. Of course I learned along the way she had a ton of issues and baggage. Yet I'll give her credit, as a strict friend for that first year she never bothered me once with it.

If I could do it over, I would have just stayed friends. Nailing this LJBF just wasn't worth losing a friend.

Your Case # 2 has a few great advantages IF you don't let the feelings get out of control.

Had I not reverted to dork AFC mode, I'd still have a nice babe to hang with when other prospects are low. If she truly was not interested in me, she would have been a great wingman! If her IL had been running over 50%, the wingman request probably would have yielded the same great sack time but with me being the PRIZE instead of her. I think you have to go into Case # 2 being the PRIZE and keep it that way no matter what.
 

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I think the "Let's just be friends" line is so canned and corny, it's the modern woman's version of the old pick up line "Hey baby, what's your sign?" Another one I love is "I need my space." C'mon cheesy women, drop the Cosmo for your own original lines.
 

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Real canned and corny ... like I said, I got LJBFed by someone last year and I was more disappointed at getting that stupid line instead of, "I don't see you in a romantic light."

I thought my "friend" was brighter than that ... I don't really want to be her friend, to be honest ... I'd rather pork her brains out. LOL!
 

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"Lets just be friends" does not work with Attention Wh0res or sexually addicted women. (Unless they are putting out)...But if you like a woman's personality, it's OK to be great friends.
 

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hmmm it was my birthday on 12/01 and while out courousing the town I met a girl whos birthday is also 12/01 (only she's born in '78 to my '80) anyway we drank with our crews and then hit up a club in GVR and we were dancing together. When we were close she whispers in my ear "I think we should be friends" I knew by the way she said it that it was going to a more then friends evening from there on out and I was right. Later on in the eveing our friends both figured out what was going on and one of her friends said to me "Mind taking the birthday girl home birthday boy? She's had a little too much to drink to drive." I had had alot to drink too but my tolorance has increased significantly over the last few months. Back at her place we both got the birthday presents we were looking for.

I stray from my point, every statement has it's context, even "lets be friends" can be an invitation to something more when in the right circumstances.
 

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prmoon,

true, context is everything.

you're situation was a bit of a unique one. that doesn't happen to often. usually women don't say "lets be friends" as a sign that they want to screw you.

in your case, all the non verbal cues im assuming were so blatant that she could have said "lets go home i have to take a dump" and you'd still have known that she was really saying 'lets go screw".

often times "lets be friends" during situations where people are drunk means "lets screw".

but in sober-like environments, "lets be friends" rarely has a good connotation to it.

J
 

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The next time a girls says to you, "Let`s be friends", reply with a quizzical look and say, "Wait a minute, we`re already friends. If you want something more, you`ll have to work for it because you have to prove that you can handle this" (point to self). And yes, have a ****y grin on when saying the aforementioned.

Always throw it back to the chica. Let them know that they have to be on their sharpest when dealing with you...because YOU`RE THE MAN, SO BE THE MAN.

Cheers,
Mav
 
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