"Let me call you back..."

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I've been on a little streak here and I've noticed a few times that the last few girls I've talked to for the first time would say "hey I'm blahblahblah so let me call you back". Thennnnnnn I would say ok. Normally I would call back anyways but it got to the point where I wanted to see what would happen if I don't call back even though they're the ones that said that they'll call back. So, what happens is that they don't call back at all..

My question is: Is this one of those damn tests again for us guys? To call or not to call?
 

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normally if you would try to set a date and if she replies "let me call you back/ill call you back later". Usuuallly it's a sign of low IL...you get the picture...
 

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Originally posted by SuperAlbert
I've been on a little streak here and I've noticed a few times that the last few girls I've talked to for the first time would say "hey I'm blahblahblah so let me call you back". Thennnnnnn I would say ok. Normally I would call back anyways but it got to the point where I wanted to see what would happen if I don't call back even though they're the ones that said that they'll call back. So, what happens is that they don't call back at all..

My question is: Is this one of those damn tests again for us guys? To call or not to call?
1) if they call back , make em leave a msg

2) if they dont call back in a few days or so , give them the benefit of the doubt and call em again... and if no answer , dont leave a msg , wait several more days , call back and leave a msg if need be ....

-L8rs
 

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and ... if they dont respond to your message, then dont even bother again ... they're not interested ...
 

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If they say that, in many a case it will mean she has low IL. Think about it, if you run your game a few days ago, and she is really expecting you to call, she won't give you that lemme call you back shyt. If she calls back, good, there's your "benefit of the doubt," if she doesn't, you know how interested she was.

I'd move on. Lots of other girls out there. But I guess you can try either, if you really want to experiment.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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give me a break!!
move on just because a girl says she'll "call you" and then doesn't? my girlfriend did this pretty often when we started going out. generally hot women (she is very hot) don't NEED to call guys -- so they don't. the one who calls her and doesn't make a big deal of it is the one who gets her.
no she won't always call you when she says, and no she won't always reliably get back to you. you're the MAN, and YOU should be able to handle her ambiguity and silly unpredictable behavior. if you're too insecure and you cut and run (because you think she stopped loving you because she cancelled one damn date), all the better for her -- she gets more time with the guy who has bigger balls.
one thing many women want... no... NEED to feel with you is SAFE. do you think they will feel safe with a guy who wussies out on something he wants, just because she's acting a little flaky? who says "NEXT" because of some little thing, really because he's afraid of getting his feelings hurt?
it's one thing to give up your "power" to women -- but it's a whole different thing to close off because you're AFRAID to pursue a woman. many people here don't know the difference. i suggest to everybody to get some clarity about it.
 

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If she says "I'll call back" and she doesn't. It doesn't mean low interest. It doesn't mean she's busy. It doesn't mean she forgot. It only means that you should not be waiting for the call and you should be busy doing something productive in your life or lovelife for that matter. If it means "Next" then so be it, at least you don't care and that's what's most important.
 

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Originally posted by smoke city
give me a break!!
move on just because a girl says she'll "call you" and then doesn't? my girlfriend did this pretty often when we started going out. generally hot women (she is very hot) don't NEED to call guys -- so they don't. the one who calls her and doesn't make a big deal of it is the one who gets her.
no she won't always call you when she says, and no she won't always reliably get back to you. you're the MAN, and YOU should be able to handle her ambiguity and silly unpredictable behavior. if you're too insecure and you cut and run (because you think she stopped loving you because she cancelled one damn date), all the better for her -- she gets more time with the guy who has bigger balls.
one thing many women want... no... NEED to feel with you is SAFE. do you think they will feel safe with a guy who wussies out on something he wants, just because she's acting a little flaky? who says "NEXT" because of some little thing, really because he's afraid of getting his feelings hurt?
it's one thing to give up your "power" to women -- but it's a whole different thing to close off because you're AFRAID to pursue a woman. many people here don't know the difference. i suggest to everybody to get some clarity about it.

It's not about that fake-ass alpha male BS. It's a simple matter of self-worth. I'd rather spend my valuable time with a girl who happens to give enough of a fukk as to take my call when I dial her number, and be happy about it.

Having balls and being the pursuer is not the same as clinging on to oneitises; evaluating the situation and looking for better prospects is not the same as wussing out. Don't get the two mixed.

And if you clinged on to a girl who then happened to be your gf/ons/whatever, good for you. I wouldn't justify the rule simply because of that though.
 

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I'm pretty sure that if a person can actually go out and look for other prospects, they wouldn't be posting here about girls who says "I'll call you back" but don't. The only reason SuperAlbert is pondering over this is because he still thinks there's a chance with this girl.

Perfectly fine for him though. However, he does have to keep in mind that a girl that dishes out "I'll call you back" lines but don't mean it clearly isn't totally interested. Interest could still be had, but when there's bad signs, you gotta prepare yourself.

Oh! One more thing. Who the hell gives a shyt if it's one of their freakin tests or not? So what if it's a test? You could either play along or not give a fvck. Play along and you'll either win or lose. Don't give a fvck, and you just don't give a fvck, and you still could either get her or not get her. I don't think anyone can actually tell you which way of going about it has the best probability of success. So, choose not to give a fvck instead of becoming a participant in one of their tests.
 

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Originally posted by smoke city
give me a break!!
move on just because a girl says she'll "call you" and then doesn't? my girlfriend did this pretty often when we started going out. generally hot women (she is very hot) don't NEED to call guys -- so they don't. the one who calls her and doesn't make a big deal of it is the one who gets her.
no she won't always call you when she says, and no she won't always reliably get back to you. you're the MAN, and YOU should be able to handle her ambiguity and silly unpredictable behavior. if you're too insecure and you cut and run (because you think she stopped loving you because she cancelled one damn date), all the better for her -- she gets more time with the guy who has bigger balls.
one thing many women want... no... NEED to feel with you is SAFE. do you think they will feel safe with a guy who wussies out on something he wants, just because she's acting a little flaky? who says "NEXT" because of some little thing, really because he's afraid of getting his feelings hurt?
it's one thing to give up your "power" to women -- but it's a whole different thing to close off because you're AFRAID to pursue a woman. many people here don't know the difference. i suggest to everybody to get some clarity about it.
Agreed,
I think to many people on this forum are to quick to next chicks for the smallest $h*t, calling 5 - 6 times a day is AFC, calling her back 2 -3 days later cause she didnt call you back is persistent, if she constantly does not return your calls or is extremely uniterested on the phone then next her, but not after one flakey phone call. I think your mentality is a bit wrong if you next a chick from not returning a phone call, as anything oculd of happened. Personally I will call a chick 2 days later cause I figure she obviously got caught up......I mean after all what girl wouldn't want to talk to me and spend time with me.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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This is DEFINITELY a sign of low interest level. (Especially if it came while you were trying to ask her to hang out). If this is so:

Her : LET ME CALL YOU BACK

95% of the time means: I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL I WANNA SEE YOU, SO I'LL JUST TELL YOU I'LL "CALL YOU BACK", AND HOPE THAT YOU GET THE POINT ONCE I NEVER CALL YOU.

**** that Persuing bul****. There's a limit to everything, or you may be looking at bigger problems down the line if you really like this girl so much. Her not being interested and trying to AVOID you by telling you she'll "call you back" many times over and over and you KEEP calling her = NO CHALLENGE. The poor girl may finally give in, and become your girlfriend or something for whatever reason. We all know that girls can go out with guys that they're really not all that interested in. If you're just trying to have FUN with her and beat it a couple of times, then whatever, you can try a few times I guess, I wouldn't personally but you can give it a shot. I'd call maybe 1 more time total, if the same thing happens, move on.

If she finally gives in after you keep on calling her, and you're like obsessed with this chick, trust me, they'll be problems down the line. You'll notice that you're the one who cares about the relationship the most and she always looks like she could give a fvck less. This is because SHE NEVER LIKED YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE! It's all up to you man, but be very careful, since you sound like you're puttin a bit too much importance on this one chick who's so flaky.

Now, like anything else in life, there may be exeptions to this, but you're the one who knows for sure. My honest guess is, 95+% of the time, this is true, she has LOW interest level (or none). Watch her tone, would a girl who's really interested in you tell you "shell call you back" after she gets her CHANCE! to hang out with you?? Think about it. Would you tell some chick you would LOVE to see that you'll call her back, and then keep doing it an never call her?
 

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Originally posted by smoke city
do you think they will feel safe with a guy who wussies out on something he wants, just because she's acting a little flaky?

who gives a fcuk if she feels safe if she's a liar?

i don't like being lied to.

this isn't about getting every chick you think is cute and talk to. this is about filtering out the worthwhile ones that aren't gonna be a pain in the ass. I didn't "lose" because she lied and didn't call back so i should re-amp my game and try again. No, SHE lost because she just lied to a good guy and ruined her chances. She can go back to the losers she usually talks to and endlessly complains about.

god i have more fun things to do than play phone tag with some dumb girl.
 

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Relax guys! I just wanted to see yall's input. It's one of those "what would you do" scenerios. I encounter these types of girls probably 1 out of 4 times and it's not a big deal.

Anyways, I actually did called her back a couple of days later and she did answered back. I invited her for some sushi but then the tone of her voice and choice of words (I don't dig girls who curse in a non-humorous way) made me think twice. She said to call her back again to confirm because she wasn't sure during the time being. I never did called her back. Later that weekend she called again but I've never answered... I wasn't in the mood and I'd rather spend time with a girl that I can enjoy with. Obviously she didn't make a good impression on me.

So... other then that, thanks for the input guys! I don't mean to brag but I'm already in a higher level then some of you guys think. Hell, I've recently got another girls number already. Just like everyone else, I'm just filling in some of the holes that I skipped over if you get what I mean.
 

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Right on bro, don't take offense when a girl does a "i'll give you a call back" or whatever. It could mean anything, the thing is that some guys learned that girls passively say no to a date by saying those same things - that's true but just remember that getting a date or not with a girl is no biggie.
 

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Are they saying this as soon as you answer the phone, or after you've been chatting them up a bit?

I do my best to end all conversations myself. If they make an attempt to get off the phone, I will interrupt them to take back control, then end the call myself shortly thereafter.

But now I don't chat with them on the phone at all, if I call a woman I'm calling to make a date and I do that as soon as I get them on the phone, then I get off the phone immediately.
 

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How about be the MAN, take charge and say "forget that... I'll call you back in an hour."
 

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I never have this problem. If they say they are going to call me back then I let them do just that. They almost always call me back.

If they don't then its just low IL. Its not anything to worry about.

Do you really want to date a woman who can't remember to call you back? Maybe thats just me, but I like to date women that are interested in dating me...
 

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Originally posted by smoke city
give me a break!!
move on just because a girl says she'll "call you" and then doesn't? my girlfriend did this pretty often when we started going out. generally hot women (she is very hot) don't NEED to call guys -- so they don't. the one who calls her and doesn't make a big deal of it is the one who gets her.
no she won't always call you when she says, and no she won't always reliably get back to you. you're the MAN, and YOU should be able to handle her ambiguity and silly unpredictable behavior. if you're too insecure and you cut and run (because you think she stopped loving you because she cancelled one damn date), all the better for her -- she gets more time with the guy who has bigger balls.
one thing many women want... no... NEED to feel with you is SAFE. do you think they will feel safe with a guy who wussies out on something he wants, just because she's acting a little flaky? who says "NEXT" because of some little thing, really because he's afraid of getting his feelings hurt?
it's one thing to give up your "power" to women -- but it's a whole different thing to close off because you're AFRAID to pursue a woman. many people here don't know the difference. i suggest to everybody to get some clarity about it.

uh....yea you do... I know everytime a girl calls me and I want to talk to her, I make sure I call her back if I am busy... then when I don't want to talk to a girl and I tell her I will call her back just to get off the phone..

Girls, like men, make time for who they want. If she doesn't call you back, she doesn't want you.. it's not rocket science... If you call back not ony are you at a disatvantage, because she told you she doesn't have high IL and you still are chasing her, it's demoralizing.

Your options should be enough to where you don't have time to call her back, or in other words, you don't have time to deal with girls of Low Il


I have a HOT :rolleyes: female friend who does this all the time.. and she calls me back. If she doesn't call me back, I assume it's because she has something better to do.

I mean, who elementry does it get guys?

And why do you think there are 3 different species.. men, women, and hot women? Women are women... They all look alike, some may THINK they are better than others, but it's only because every guy, like you, tells them so but in reality they hvae the same needs, laugh at the same jokes and have the same tendinces as "unhot" women
 
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