Sargeholic
Don Juan
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Whew, pulling an all nighter at work...I have been doing some field work lately and have had a thought.
Women hardly ever get approached by calm, normal guys, in normal situations.
That's right. All of you who think women get hit on directly 10 times a day by people running any sort of normal, sober game, don't believe the hype. Next time you pull, talk to the girl about it during the debrief. Her actual reality will likely astound you.
Examples:
My last LTR was approached by normal, reasonable, datable men in a sober environment about once or twice a year. She was a solid 8+, who would get constantly honked at, leered at, and catcalled everywhere we walked. If I left her on a dance floor for 20 seconds, someone would try and hump her, but nobody ever approached in a normal manner. Hell, even when we went to the bar, I would go out with her and several of her friends in a 4-6 person group, me as the only guy, and her HB friends never even got approached in the bar. They were single and perpetually looking, and always talked about guys as we sat there.
Heck, you didn't need any fancy Mystery Method stuff to approach them. Nobody needed to AMOG me. As the "AMOG" of the group, I would have been happy to hook up a decent guy with one of my friends, and so would my GF at the time. I don't think anyone ever pulled one of them from a bar or party in the 3 1/2 years I went out with them in groups. Mostly it was because nobody approached.
A girl I work with, a true blue 9+, was so overwhelmed at the fact she was approached by a guy while she was eating lunch and he asked for her number that she was talking all about what she should do about it around the office with every girl and guy here for 2 whole days. I asked her if she was used to this, and she said "no, it doesn't happen much, usually its just creepy guys honking and making lewd comments" This girl is kinda a shy, wallflower type in spite of her extreme hotness, so she really has little experience with this stuff because she doesn't hang out in AFC venues where approaches happen.
I asked my friends how often they approach women. Most say never, or only when they are wasted. Most say its just not something they do, and they meet girls strictly through social circles.
Most men, it is simply not in their reality to approach women they don't know, except when alcohol or environment dictates that it is ok (pretty much high energy clubs and college party type environments). Ask some couples you know how they met. If it wasn't a social circle meet, I guarantee the girl will launch into a story about how she wanted him to come over all night and she sat and waited and finally she got lucky and he did. Think of all the women over your lifetime who probably sat across the bar captivated by you that all you would have had to do is just say "Hello" to and go from there.
The moral of the story is that even if you walk up to a girl and just talk AFC stuff while sober, with decent frame, body language, and a positive attitude, you are ahead of 80% of men already. You don't need a ton of fancy lines, theory, or gimmicks to make some headway, especially in day game. I've tried to be a "routine robot" and blast women with seduction technique, but all my best sarges have been low key and very, very mundane.
Within my first ten sets ever on here/ASF, I pulled same night on the first set I ever opened, and kept her as a FB all summer until she moved away. I also held a hour long set with a kiss close on a member of a WNBA team who was holed up in a 5 set of her teammates. Both were with the "AFC" Hello-and-vibe game. Then I started to try and spout routines and C+F and got nowhere for a few months. I went back to basic direct game (with some peacocking, cause its fun) and pulled again last weekend.
Just get out there and make some approaches. You will surprise yourself, and her.
Women hardly ever get approached by calm, normal guys, in normal situations.
That's right. All of you who think women get hit on directly 10 times a day by people running any sort of normal, sober game, don't believe the hype. Next time you pull, talk to the girl about it during the debrief. Her actual reality will likely astound you.
Examples:
My last LTR was approached by normal, reasonable, datable men in a sober environment about once or twice a year. She was a solid 8+, who would get constantly honked at, leered at, and catcalled everywhere we walked. If I left her on a dance floor for 20 seconds, someone would try and hump her, but nobody ever approached in a normal manner. Hell, even when we went to the bar, I would go out with her and several of her friends in a 4-6 person group, me as the only guy, and her HB friends never even got approached in the bar. They were single and perpetually looking, and always talked about guys as we sat there.
Heck, you didn't need any fancy Mystery Method stuff to approach them. Nobody needed to AMOG me. As the "AMOG" of the group, I would have been happy to hook up a decent guy with one of my friends, and so would my GF at the time. I don't think anyone ever pulled one of them from a bar or party in the 3 1/2 years I went out with them in groups. Mostly it was because nobody approached.
A girl I work with, a true blue 9+, was so overwhelmed at the fact she was approached by a guy while she was eating lunch and he asked for her number that she was talking all about what she should do about it around the office with every girl and guy here for 2 whole days. I asked her if she was used to this, and she said "no, it doesn't happen much, usually its just creepy guys honking and making lewd comments" This girl is kinda a shy, wallflower type in spite of her extreme hotness, so she really has little experience with this stuff because she doesn't hang out in AFC venues where approaches happen.
I asked my friends how often they approach women. Most say never, or only when they are wasted. Most say its just not something they do, and they meet girls strictly through social circles.
Most men, it is simply not in their reality to approach women they don't know, except when alcohol or environment dictates that it is ok (pretty much high energy clubs and college party type environments). Ask some couples you know how they met. If it wasn't a social circle meet, I guarantee the girl will launch into a story about how she wanted him to come over all night and she sat and waited and finally she got lucky and he did. Think of all the women over your lifetime who probably sat across the bar captivated by you that all you would have had to do is just say "Hello" to and go from there.
The moral of the story is that even if you walk up to a girl and just talk AFC stuff while sober, with decent frame, body language, and a positive attitude, you are ahead of 80% of men already. You don't need a ton of fancy lines, theory, or gimmicks to make some headway, especially in day game. I've tried to be a "routine robot" and blast women with seduction technique, but all my best sarges have been low key and very, very mundane.
Within my first ten sets ever on here/ASF, I pulled same night on the first set I ever opened, and kept her as a FB all summer until she moved away. I also held a hour long set with a kiss close on a member of a WNBA team who was holed up in a 5 set of her teammates. Both were with the "AFC" Hello-and-vibe game. Then I started to try and spout routines and C+F and got nowhere for a few months. I went back to basic direct game (with some peacocking, cause its fun) and pulled again last weekend.
Just get out there and make some approaches. You will surprise yourself, and her.
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