Lance Armstrong & Ashley Olsen

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So apparently Lance Armstrong(36 yrs) and Ashley Olsen(21 yrs) are dating. Now in almost any country of the world, this would not be considered extreme and while there might be a few comments, most people would not care in the least. Of course, the US is not like most places. Check out the reporting of this thing in the US media.

http://tv.msn.com/tv/hotgossip/10-31-07_2?GT1=7703&silentchk=1&

Some choice comments from the reporter:

Is Lance Armstrong just a shiny red sports car (with bike rack, natch) away from a full-blown and slightly early midlife crisis? The seven-time Tour de France champ, 36, has apparently pedaled directly into the pouty lips of 21-year-old Ashley Olsen. (Go on, say it, we'll wait: Ew.)

The squicky twosome -- the teensy, fashion-forward twin is closer in age to Armstrong's 8-year-old son than she is to him -- turned up Monday night at Manhattan hot spot Rose Bar, where a spy snitches to the New York Post, "They came together with a group of friends. Ashley drank red wine, sat on his lap and they were making out all night.

Like, wtf.. Ew? And she is closer in age to his 8 year old son? Come on, how sleazy can the reporter get?
 

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I know I'm not supposed to post here, but...

Lance armstrong is one of the coolest people in the world. Incidentally I was listening to a talk he did on his life experiences. His battles through cancer, brain surgery, a doctor who said he MIGHT be able to walk again, and the belief in himself and the determination to learn how to not only walk on his two feet, but come back and compete as a world class athlete, all prove his passion for life and his hobby.

A man like that can do whatever he wants.

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For people who look objectively at his age vs. her age and not who they are as people, fall into the great fault of humanity; assumption.

When you see trash-talking articles like these, just ask yourself: Who is the person who is criticizing? More often than not they're pathetic people of little or no substance who spend their life on the sidelines armchair quarterbacking other people's lives.
 

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Lexie said:
I agree the man's a beast...I just can't get over it being weird. Guess I watched too many episodes of full house.
Maybe I wasn't being clear in my initial post.

The reporter saying that she is closer in his age to his 8 year old son is down right sleazy reporting. What a biased and skewed report. I bet if the ages were reversed, the reporting would have been.. yeah.. Go Girl. or some other feminist crap.

I don't see a problem with this relationship.

And most people in the world would not.
 

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Why "weird"?

He's a guy. She's a young, hot, willing, 'legal' woman.

What's the problem?

(BTW, she's 21 already? WOW. I remember when those little chicks turned 18, and it was all over the news. Seems like yesterday. Time slips away.)

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it wasn't a problem when 40 year old Demi Moore picked up 25 year old Ashton Kutcher.
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Oh of course if it is perfectly fine in the case of Ashton and Demi. Because it is all about a confident woman knowing what she wants and not being afraid to go for it. And how women in their Forties can still be attractive and have what it takes etc.. etc..

Barf.. dumb feminist b*tches.
 

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When Lance Armstrong was 30, he dated the 40 year old Sheryl Crow. There was zero negative media attention devoted to the age difference in that relationship. Rather, most of the media attention focused on whether Armstrong (who, at the time was at the peak of his Tour de France glory) was good enough or hot enough for Sheryl Crow. Remember, Armstrong left his wife (the same wife who had stayed with him - IIRC - throughout his battle with cancer) for Sheryl Crow. Armstrong was often portrayed in a negative light for dumping his loyal wife after he had achieved fame and stature.

Sheryl Crow was not portrayed in a negative light for stealing a man -- ten years her junior -- from his wife.

The little media attention that the age difference between Armstrong and Crow did attract tended to be congratulatory toward Sheryl Crow: i.e. "isn't it great that Sheryl Crow has found "true love" with a world class athlete and all around cool guy ... hopefully Sheryl will be happy with him!

Not surprisingly, the same celebrity media generally thought it was great - if not empowering - to see the "still-hot-at-40"(with a little help from her [cosmetic surgeon] friends) baby boomer Demi Moore pull a "young hottie" Gen Y'er like Ashton Kutcher. You Go Girl!

But a 40 year old Tom Cruise was creepy for robbing then 26 year old Katie Holmes from her cradle.

I guess this is an example of how, as you guys would say, the media is part of the "matrix."
 

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you know whats wierd is that you know when hes pounding the pudding out of her he's watching old episodes of full house in his head.

you know they've already had this scene...

Lance: "oh ya, oh ya. im gonna bust my one nut."
olsen: 'ya baby ya."
lance: "ohhhhhh ya. i love you bob segat."
olsen: "give me a f*cking break."
lance: "baby. im sorry baby. i mean i love you ashley. baby come back."


btw, everyone in the world is this big lance lover. give me a f*cking break.

ok, sure, the guy can peddle a bike and he beat cancer. everyone chalks it up to his attitude. IT IS NOT HIS ATTITUDE - the dude is gifted athletically and he got LUCKY with his cancer stuff (and had the best care possible).

he's not the only one who beats the odds, this stuff happens and he got lucky. lots dont get lucky.

i guess i have a problem with holding people like lance up so that other cancer pantients who don't make it think to themselves 'well im dying because its my fault. i didnt have the spirit lance had."

I think the guy has done more damage with this bullsh*t hero image than he has done good. i also think he was an idiot for tossing crow away (she's hot and a cool person).

but that's just my opinion. i do like the guy and im glad hes healthy. i just don't like his superman persona in the media.
 

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MrLuvr said:
...Like, wtf.. Ew? And she is closer in age to his 8 year old son? Come on, how sleazy can the reporter get?
Lance is on the rebound. You can't forget who was his last LTR, what they went through and how things ended. He had seemed to come out of it unscathed but his canoodling with Ashley shouldn't be a surprise given the path he'd be on if he had stayed with his ex.

I mean come on, he retires at the top of his game and what is he to do, get married and have kids? He's been there and done that already, now it's time for some fun! But with the Crypt Keeper's sister???? :confused: I think he's taken more than a few steps backward.
 

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I'm really not up to speed on this Armstrong guy. What "damage" did he do? I really only know about his record consecutive wins of that biggol' bike race in France, and all those plastic bracelets.

And how do you know that S. Crow ain't really a mean b*tch behind closed doors?

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I get snide comments all the time from older women about having friends/ g/f's, etc. that are low 20's. One time, just ONE TIME I would love for one of them to get a stick up her ass and start saying things like "That's gross". I would rip someone a new ass hole.

My friends aren't like that, but I could see myself putting a b!tch in her place even if I heard it in passing in a convo I wasn't involved in.

That said, it's funny how the younger women who like older men see the older ones as the washed up haters they are. What's really funny though is that in 10-15 years they will be changing their tune :)
 

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joekerr31 said:
you know whats wierd is that you know when hes pounding the pudding out of her he's watching old episodes of full house in his head.

you know they've already had this scene...

Lance: "oh ya, oh ya. im gonna bust my one nut."
olsen: 'ya baby ya."
lance: "ohhhhhh ya. i love you bob segat."
olsen: "give me a f*cking break."
lance: "baby. im sorry baby. i mean i love you ashley. baby come back."


btw, everyone in the world is this big lance lover. give me a f*cking break.

ok, sure, the guy can peddle a bike and he beat cancer. everyone chalks it up to his attitude. IT IS NOT HIS ATTITUDE - the dude is gifted athletically and he got LUCKY with his cancer stuff (and had the best care possible).

he's not the only one who beats the odds, this stuff happens and he got lucky. lots dont get lucky.

i guess i have a problem with holding people like lance up so that other cancer pantients who don't make it think to themselves 'well im dying because its my fault. i didnt have the spirit lance had."

I think the guy has done more damage with this bullsh*t hero image than he has done good. i also think he was an idiot for tossing crow away (she's hot and a cool person).

but that's just my opinion. i do like the guy and im glad hes healthy. i just don't like his superman persona in the media.
I agree with you completely. I like to read a lot and someone recommended Lance's book to me. That was 10-11 hours of my life I want back. He just came off sounding like a complete jerk-off in it. He didn't give any of his opponents even three sentences of credit. Every time he lost a race it was because he was "having an off-day where he didn't eat right before a race" or because "he gave it his all but ran out of gas at the end of the race".

All throughout the book he praises his wife for her dedication to him and says she is his savior and all this crap for what she did for him during his cancer treatment. But the guy catches a whiff of fame after he publishes the book and sell those Livestrong bracelets, and he goes chasing Sheryl Crow.

Some posters on this site might say that's fine because he is guy and has the right to choose, and normally I'd agree with you. But if you're going to do that you shouldn't be disingenuous and try to sound devoted to your wife when you clearly don't give a sh!t.

If I'm just staying with a girl until something better comes along, I'm not going to be disingenuous and pretend like I'm all devoted to her and crap like that.

Now he is dating Michelle Tanner. What a joke.
 

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Lance and I have something very important in common - we were both stricken with testicular cancer (at about the same time in history.) However, unlike Lance, who was really put through the ringer with his treatment, the morbidity of my treatment was very low (only the orchiectomy.)

It has been a pleasure to see him come back from that and become the best cyclist ever. Like others, I did not see the attraction to Sheryl Crowe. As for the situation with his first wife, I have been in a similar situation in which I needed some nursing back (much, much less than what Lance went through), and my woman at the time did an admirable job, but the negatives of the relationship just made it impossible to continue. If I need to be in a state of being nursed just so my woman will act proper, than what is the point?

As for the "ew", as long as she is 18, WHO CARES? If I were ever to get any snide remarks, the first thing I would say is, "are you saying that I should give up my happiness?"
 

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I don't have an opinion one way or another about Armstrong. I thought his athletic achievements and overcoming cancer were impressive. I'm looking at this thing in the media-matrix dynaimic. I don't really care about celeb dating and marrying, but of course the reporters of this schlock have to care.

I think the best comparison is Demi Moore and that Ashton guy (I'm not really up on what he does, some bad TV shows, I guess) ... a bigger age difference but no comment from the media other than that Demi is empowering herself.

And whether the Olsen gal was on some distant TV show as a toddler, so be it. Like every person on this earth, she got older, Demi Moore's boyfriend was toddler when she was 18. (Personally I think Armstrong could do better than that anorexic freak ...)

The whole thing is how society and media programs the public into thinking this: older guy with young woman = bad; older woman with younger guy = great.
 

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MrLuvr said:
So apparently Lance Armstrong(36 yrs) and Ashley Olsen(21 yrs) are dating. Now in almost any country of the world, this would not be considered extreme and while there might be a few comments, most people would not care in the least.
Including myself...and the MATURE posters on this forum.

But I'm sure there will be plenty of dorks who will bite on this gossip and talk about how it represents the "hor-minatrix" or whatever.

The Olsen twins were interesting when they were "forbidden fruit". No one cares any more. Even 12 year old girls don't care about the Olsen twins any more. Why do you?

Celebrity relationships are non-news. Would you go to a club and talk about two no-name random people making out on the VIP couches? No? Then why talk about it when you know their names?
 

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Lexie said:
Yes, my exact thoughts when I found this out! This is so crazy...and weird. Just weird. Where are the dating police when you need them...?
No it's not, it's completely normal. Women his age are dried up and useless, why should he be saddled with that when he can get better? I'd even wager that in 10 or 15 years he will be more attractive than she will be to the opposite sex. Think about it, at 50 he's still gonna be a handsome and successful man while she will be a 35 year old saggy has-been.

She should be thankful for every second of time Lance gives her.



STR8UP said:
.... it's funny how the younger women who like older men see the older ones as the washed up haters they are. What's really funny though is that in 10-15 years they will be changing their tune :)
This is an endless source of amusement to me. Women who blow it with their first try and find that there is no reset button for them make me laugh.
 

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bigjohnson said:
No it's not, it's completely normal. Women his age are dried up and useless, why should he be saddled with that when he can get better? I'd even wager that in 10 or 15 years he will be more attractive than she will be to the opposite sex. Think about it, at 50 he's still gonna be a handsome and successful man while she will be a 35 year old saggy has-been.

She should be thankful for every second of time Lance gives her.


This is an endless source of amusement to me. Women who blow it with their first try and find that there is no reset button for them make me laugh.
Here's a picture of the 44 year old Lance dumped.

http://celebrityrumors.com/posts/sherylcrow/1/2.jpg
 
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